Neewer Ad200 and P-TTL?

Gareth · 01-07-2020, 06:58 AM

This is what I've bought, all came today.

When back home I'll re read the manual

Thanks.

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morenjavi · 01-07-2020, 07:18 AM

Hello and thanks for the pictures, I see clearer now.

The N1 trigger I see on your picture is for a Canon camera. You can use on a Pentax camera (I have some Godox triggers that are for Canon cameras and they work) to control power and trigger your ad200, but I'm afraid you will miss HSS and PTTL. Only X2T or XPro triggers supports HSS/PTTL directly on Pentax cameras.

I told you that It's supposed to work, but I was wrong, that is, it's supposed to work with the AD200 but on a supported camera, and as far as I know, there is no N1/XT1 for Pentax cameras. I suppose the trigger was included with the AD200, isn't it?

Regards.

Gareth · 01-07-2020, 07:31 AM

Cool, I'll order the Xpro-P later on and sell this trigger on 😎

Gareth · 01-07-2020, 11:55 AM

Just confirming this will work even though it's Godox please before I buy it!

Just been booked to do a home shoot on Saturday so wouldn't mind taking it along to put it through its paces

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morenjavi · 01-07-2020, 02:04 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Gareth

Just confirming this will work even though it's Godox please before I buy it!Just been booked to do a home shoot on Saturday so wouldn't mind taking it along to put it through its paces

Hello Gareth. This trigger willl work with your Pentax camera and your AD200. You will have HSS & PTTL too, if needed. I have exactly the same trigger (and many others

).
In my experience, with PTTL, I need to add +0.3EV. If I use HSS, then the adjustment is -0.7EV.

As you need to control only one flash, you can set the display in zoom mode, pressing the button with the +/TCM symbol. In this mode, you can control just one flash at a time but you'll see bigger characters and will control your flash quicker, needing less pressing of buttons, etc.

Don't hesitate to ask if you have problems with initial configuration, you still have some days before your booking.

Regards and good luck!

Regards.

Gareth · 01-07-2020, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by morenjavi

Hello Gareth. This trigger willl work with your Pentax camera and your AD200. You will have HSS & PTTL too, if needed. I have exactly the same trigger (and many others

).
In my experience, with PTTL, I need to add +0.3EV. If I use HSS, then the adjustment is -0.7EV.

As you need to control only one flash, you can set the display in zoom mode, pressing the button with the +/TCM symbol. In this mode, you can control just one flash at a time but you'll see bigger characters and will control your flash quicker, needing less pressing of buttons, etc.

Don't hesitate to ask if you have problems with initial configuration, you still have some days before your booking.

Regards and good luck!

Regards.

Excellent thanks! Phew, as I ordered it before you replied!!
Just to get the bare bulb working now. The speedlight head is fine but the bare bulb refuses to fire but I was trying it at 1/64 power and not full power?

Got a Bowens mount on the way as well as a reflector and softbox

morenjavi · 01-07-2020, 02:25 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Gareth

Just to get the bare bulb working now. The speedlight head is fine but the bare bulb refuses to fire but I was trying it at 1/64 power and not full power?

It's strange, the bulb should work from 1/128 up to 1/1 power. I think It's not possible to mount the bulb incorrectly, because it has pins with different thickness, but maybe you didn't push the bulb enough into the bulb head. I think you need to apply a little force first time, but not a lot really. I suppose you checked yet, but verify that the red dot on the base of the bulb match with the dot on the bulb head. I don't know what can be the cause that prevents the bulb from working.

Originally posted by Gareth

Got a Bowens mount on the way as well as a reflector and softbox

Maybe the new S-type mount? Well done!

Gareth · 01-07-2020, 03:15 PM

School boy error that it said it was in the UK when filtered search on eBay but its not lol!!

Until I get the bare bulb going then softboxes etc are no good and it's on its way - doh!

morenjavi · 01-07-2020, 03:33 PM - **1 Like**

You could still fill a softbox with the fresnel head, but you'd need to put a (translucent) cup or similar on the fresnel head to spread light inside the softbox, avoiding a hot stop. The fresnel is just 35mm wide (fixed), not too usable 'nude', in my opinion, but it's better than nothing.

gatorguy · 01-07-2020, 06:40 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Gareth

This is what I've bought, all came today.

When back home I'll re read the manual

Thanks.

You should like the NiSi filters a lot. That's what I've settled on, the original three plus two graduated.

Gareth · 01-11-2020, 06:24 AM

Little update!
Ordered a new bulb direct from Lencarta for £32 delivered and it arrived today, put it in and we're in business so dodgy bulb.
Also the XPro trigger arrived and was pleasantly surprised when I turned it on and it found the AD200 straight away and life was good between the 2!

Originally posted by gatorguy

You should like the NiSi filters a lot. That's what I've settled on, the original three plus two graduated.

I watched a Brendan Van Son video where NiSi sent him one and he was like 'how did I ever cope without it as it's great' but I've already sold it on! Literally down the road from me is Formatt Hitech and they ran a comp where you had the chance to join a list to win the option to buy a mystery Fukubukuro lucky bag which could have up to £600 worth of filters in for £250. Had an email to say I had been lucky and picked and I've gone and done the purchase so it had to go to part fund that!

morenjavi · 01-11-2020, 10:56 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Gareth

Little update!Ordered a new bulb direct from Lencarta for £32 delivered and it arrived today, put it in and we're in business so dodgy bulb.Also the XPro trigger arrived and was pleasantly surprised when I turned it on and it found the AD200 straight away and life was good between the 2!

So the bulb was defective? What annoyance! It's good that you ordered a new one and everything is working now.

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01-07-2020, 07:18 AM	#17
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Hello and thanks for the pictures, I see clearer now. The N1 trigger I see on your picture is for a Canon camera. You can use on a Pentax camera (I have some Godox triggers that are for Canon cameras and they work) to control power and trigger your ad200, but I'm afraid you will miss HSS and PTTL. Only X2T or XPro triggers supports HSS/PTTL directly on Pentax cameras. I told you that It's supposed to work, but I was wrong, that is, it's supposed to work with the AD200 but on a supported camera, and as far as I know, there is no N1/XT1 for Pentax cameras. I suppose the trigger was included with the AD200, isn't it? Regards.

01-07-2020, 07:31 AM	#18
Gareth Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 768 Original Poster	Cool, I'll order the Xpro-P later on and sell this trigger on 😎

01-07-2020, 02:04 PM - 1 Like	#20
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Gareth Just confirming this will work even though it's Godox please before I buy it!Just been booked to do a home shoot on Saturday so wouldn't mind taking it along to put it through its paces Hello Gareth. This trigger willl work with your Pentax camera and your AD200. You will have HSS & PTTL too, if needed. I have exactly the same trigger (and many others ). In my experience, with PTTL, I need to add +0.3EV. If I use HSS, then the adjustment is -0.7EV. As you need to control only one flash, you can set the display in zoom mode, pressing the button with the +/TCM symbol. In this mode, you can control just one flash at a time but you'll see bigger characters and will control your flash quicker, needing less pressing of buttons, etc. Don't hesitate to ask if you have problems with initial configuration, you still have some days before your booking. Regards and good luck! Regards.

01-07-2020, 02:09 PM	#21
Gareth Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 768 Original Poster	Originally posted by morenjavi Hello Gareth. This trigger willl work with your Pentax camera and your AD200. You will have HSS & PTTL too, if needed. I have exactly the same trigger (and many others ). In my experience, with PTTL, I need to add +0.3EV. If I use HSS, then the adjustment is -0.7EV. As you need to control only one flash, you can set the display in zoom mode, pressing the button with the +/TCM symbol. In this mode, you can control just one flash at a time but you'll see bigger characters and will control your flash quicker, needing less pressing of buttons, etc. Don't hesitate to ask if you have problems with initial configuration, you still have some days before your booking. Regards and good luck! Regards. Excellent thanks! Phew, as I ordered it before you replied!! Just to get the bare bulb working now. The speedlight head is fine but the bare bulb refuses to fire but I was trying it at 1/64 power and not full power? Got a Bowens mount on the way as well as a reflector and softbox

01-07-2020, 02:25 PM - 1 Like	#22
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Gareth Just to get the bare bulb working now. The speedlight head is fine but the bare bulb refuses to fire but I was trying it at 1/64 power and not full power? It's strange, the bulb should work from 1/128 up to 1/1 power. I think It's not possible to mount the bulb incorrectly, because it has pins with different thickness, but maybe you didn't push the bulb enough into the bulb head. I think you need to apply a little force first time, but not a lot really. I suppose you checked yet, but verify that the red dot on the base of the bulb match with the dot on the bulb head. I don't know what can be the cause that prevents the bulb from working. Originally posted by Gareth Got a Bowens mount on the way as well as a reflector and softbox Maybe the new S-type mount? Well done!

01-07-2020, 03:15 PM	#23
Gareth Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 768 Original Poster	School boy error that it said it was in the UK when filtered search on eBay but its not lol!! Until I get the bare bulb going then softboxes etc are no good and it's on its way - doh!

01-07-2020, 03:33 PM - 1 Like	#24
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	You could still fill a softbox with the fresnel head, but you'd need to put a (translucent) cup or similar on the fresnel head to spread light inside the softbox, avoiding a hot stop. The fresnel is just 35mm wide (fixed), not too usable 'nude', in my opinion, but it's better than nothing.

01-07-2020, 06:40 PM - 1 Like	#25
gatorguy Moderator Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Central Florida Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,092	Originally posted by Gareth This is what I've bought, all came today. When back home I'll re read the manual Thanks. You should like the NiSi filters a lot. That's what I've settled on, the original three plus two graduated.

01-11-2020, 06:24 AM	#26
Gareth Veteran Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Wales, UK Posts: 768 Original Poster	Little update! Ordered a new bulb direct from Lencarta for £32 delivered and it arrived today, put it in and we're in business so dodgy bulb. Also the XPro trigger arrived and was pleasantly surprised when I turned it on and it found the AD200 straight away and life was good between the 2! Originally posted by gatorguy You should like the NiSi filters a lot. That's what I've settled on, the original three plus two graduated. I watched a Brendan Van Son video where NiSi sent him one and he was like 'how did I ever cope without it as it's great' but I've already sold it on! Literally down the road from me is Formatt Hitech and they ran a comp where you had the chance to join a list to win the option to buy a mystery Fukubukuro lucky bag which could have up to £600 worth of filters in for £250. Had an email to say I had been lucky and picked and I've gone and done the purchase so it had to go to part fund that!

01-11-2020, 10:56 AM - 1 Like	#27
morenjavi Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 589	Originally posted by Gareth Little update!Ordered a new bulb direct from Lencarta for £32 delivered and it arrived today, put it in and we're in business so dodgy bulb.Also the XPro trigger arrived and was pleasantly surprised when I turned it on and it found the AD200 straight away and life was good between the 2! So the bulb was defective? What annoyance! It's good that you ordered a new one and everything is working now.