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02-11-2020, 01:50 PM   #1
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AF-360FGZ versus AF-360FGZ II wireless operation

AF-360FGZ wireless mode provides master, control, and slave operation, all with indication of P-TTL.

AF-360FGZII wireless mode provides master and control with indication of P-TTL, but with wireless slave as a separate mode not indicating P-TTL at all, but rather with manual power increments 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, . . . 1/256.

Why the different implementations?

I take it that if I want P-TTL operation with one flash offboard, then the offboard flash MUST be the original 360 set as P-TTL slave, with the 360II on the camera (or corded to it) as either master or control. The other way around, I will need to set the power ratio manually on the slaved 360II, trusting the original 360 to operate P-TTL as it triggers the 360II.

Does any of this sound incorrect? The original 360 is on the right here. The 1/1 thereon is the flashgun-to-flashgun output ratio, with 2/3, 1/2, and 1/3 following. The 1/1 on the 36FGZII is the first power increment for it alone, with 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 . . . 1/256 following.

The second picture is a shot with the setup as I described, with the 360FGZII as master on camera with ceiling bounce, and the original 360 in slaved P-TTL in an umbrella to my left. I'm just puzzled why I would need to do things completely differently (set manual dump on 360II) had I put the 360FGZII offboard in wireless manual (not P-TTL) slave.

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02-11-2020, 05:14 PM   #2
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marktax Quote
AF-360FGZII wireless mode provides master and control with indication of P-TTL, but with wireless slave as a separate mode not indicating P-TTL at all, but rather with manual power increments 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, . . . 1/256
You need to check the settings. Both can be operated off camera in wireless P-TTL mode. Check the slave setting menu 5 in the FGZII. It should be SL 1 (Slave mode 1).


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The 1/1 thereon is the flashgun-to-flashgun output ratio, with 2/3, 1/2, and 1/3 following. The 1/1 on the 36FGZII is the first power increment for it alone, with 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 . . . 1/256 following.
That is because the FGZII unit is in Manual output mode. The FGZ unit would do the same if in Manual mode.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Marktax Quote
AF-360FGZII wireless mode provides master and control with indication of P-TTL, but with wireless slave as a separate mode not indicating P-TTL at all, but rather with manual power increments 1/1, 1/2, 1/4, . . . 1/256.
Near as I can tell, you are looking at wireless M (manual) slave mode as per page 35 in the English user guide.


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You need to check the settings. Both can be operated off camera in wireless P-TTL mode. Check the slave setting menu 5 in the FGZII. It should be SL 1 (Slave mode 1).




That is because the FGZII unit is in Manual output mode. The FGZ unit would do the same if in Manual mode.
QuoteOriginally posted by pschlute Quote
Check the slave setting menu 5 in the FGZII. It should be SL 1 (Slave mode 1).
Thanks! How do I do that? Looking at 360II right now and can't find menu.

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Thanks! How do I do that? Looking at 360II right now and can't find menu.
Found it! Press Mode and Fn simultaneously brings up menu. Yes, it was in Slave 2. Slave 1 gives me P-TTL wireless slave. Thanks very much, pschlute!!!


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Near as I can tell, you are looking at wireless M (manual) slave mode as per page 35 in the English user guide.


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And thanks, Steve. I have lost the manual,l so came here. You were right as well. Loving the community here. Mark


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