Flashpoint R2 Mark2 X2T versus Pro and Pro Mark2

bladerunner6 · 05-08-2021, 05:18 PM

A excellent deal on this was posted.

Flashpoint R2 Mark II Trigger (X2T-P) [Adorama] - $29.99 + Ship - PentaxForums.com

What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one please?

Thanks.

Last edited by bladerunner6; 05-09-2021 at 06:14 AM.

wstruth · 05-09-2021, 05:09 AM

I'm not that well versed in triggers, but... the advantage of this unit is you can mount a flash on to this one. An advantage of the Godox/Flashpoint system (when you have multiple camera systems like I do) you can use the flashes for one system as slaves for the other system. So my Micro 4/3 flashes can be used as slaves when I shoot with my Pentax's. And vise a versa.

**JensE** · 05-09-2021, 05:38 AM

Originally posted by bladerunner6

A excellent deal on this was posted.

Flashpoint R2 Mark II Trigger (X2T-P) [Adorama] - $29.99 + Ship - PentaxForums.com

What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one ☝️ lease?

Thanks.

The bigger display and dedicated group buttons make it easier to control multiple groups. The Pro Mark 2 may seem a little complex for just casual use, but simple things remain easy.

bladerunner6 · 05-09-2021, 06:09 AM

Originally posted by JensE

The bigger display and dedicated group buttons make it easier to control multiple groups. The Pro Mark 2 may seem a little complex for just casual use, but simple things remain easy.

You have actually used these?
Thanks.

Class A · 05-09-2021, 09:25 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by bladerunner6

What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one please?

The Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII is the best trigger, in my view.
It combines the functions of all the others (Bluetooth, channel scan, etc.), whereas the X2T and the XPro only give you a subset of the features respectively.

It has the best ergonomics because it saves you menu-diving and multiple button presses due to having more dedicated buttons. This results in some duplication of function availability, but the latter is not really a problem. It's buttons are backlit and the group buttons are arranged around the dial, so there is less finger/hand movement when you adjust power levels. Toggling groups is done efficiently by just double-tapping group buttons. The other triggers require a cumbersome use of the mode button and cycling through three options for groups A-C just to toggle a group on and off.

It's only potential downsides are that it is a bit bigger and unlike the X2T, it does not offer a hot-shoe connector. However, it trades the hot-shoe connection for a much larger display. Some users find the front-facing display of the X2T easy to read when the camera is mounted high on a tripod, for instance. In my view, the number of scenarios where the tilted displays of the XPro or the R2 Pro MarkII work better is much higher.

At $69 it is cheap enough that I would give it the nod any time of the day.

Class A · 05-09-2021, 09:27 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by bladerunner6

You have actually used these?

For what it is worth, I have all three triggers.

I only bought the X2T because the R2 Pro Mark II was not available for Pentax yet at the time and because a video by Robert Hall misled viewers to believe that the X2T allowed toggling the group status by double tapping on a group button. That was only possible with the engineering sample he presented, the production units went back to the brain-dead complicated detour via the mode button.

bladerunner6 · 05-09-2021, 11:30 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Class A

For what it is worth, I have all three triggers.

I only bought the X2T because the R2 Pro Mark II was not available for Pentax yet at the time and because a video by Robert Hall misled viewers to believe that the X2T allowed toggling the group status by double tapping on a group button. That was only possible with the engineering sample he presented, the production units went back to the brain-dead complicated detour via the mode button.

Thanks, that you have all three is extremely helpful.

builttospill · 05-09-2021, 09:53 PM

I use the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark ii trigger. I use this with an R2 Transceiver for non-Flashpoint/Godox flashes, and an XPLOR 400 Pro, and several Flashpoint flashes. It's a fantastic system.

**Biff** · 05-16-2021, 08:17 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Class A

The Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII is the best trigger, in my view.
It combines the functions of all the others (Bluetooth, channel scan, etc.), whereas the X2T and the XPro only give you a subset of the features respectively.

It has the best ergonomics because it saves you menu-diving and multiple button presses due to having more dedicated buttons. This results in some duplication of function availability, but the latter is not really a problem. It's buttons are backlit and the group buttons are arranged around the dial, so there is less finger/hand movement when you adjust power levels. Toggling groups is done efficiently by just double-tapping group buttons. The other triggers require a cumbersome use of the mode button and cycling through three options for groups A-C just to toggle a group on and off.

It's only potential downsides are that it is a bit bigger and unlike the X2T, it does not offer a hot-shoe connector. However, it trades the hot-shoe connection for a much larger display. Some users find the front-facing display of the X2T easy to read when the camera is mounted high on a tripod, for instance. In my view, the number of scenarios where the tilted displays of the XPro or the R2 Pro MarkII work better is much higher.

At $69 it is cheap enough that I would give it the nod any time of the day.

Thanks for your thoughts on the R2 Pro Mark II. I have one, haven't tried it yet, now I'm looking forward to it even more.

madbrain · 05-20-2021, 04:04 AM

Originally posted by wstruth

I'm not that well versed in triggers, but... the advantage of this unit is you can mount a flash on to this one. An advantage of the Godox/Flashpoint system (when you have multiple camera systems like I do) you can use the flashes for one system as slaves for the other system. So my Micro 4/3 flashes can be used as slaves when I shoot with my Pentax's. And vise a versa.

Not all models are cross brand, unfortunately. The TT350 series isn't, reportedly. So my newly acquired TT350P (Pentax version) can only work with the X2T-P trigger (also Pentax versions).
Supposedly, all other series of Godox/Flashpoint triggers and flashes can be mixed.

wstruth · 05-23-2021, 11:53 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by madbrain

Not all models are cross brand, unfortunately. The TT350 series isn't, reportedly. So my newly acquired TT350P (Pentax version) can only work with the X2T-P trigger (also Pentax versions).
Supposedly, all other series of Godox/Flashpoint triggers and flashes can be mixed.

The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master.

stevebrot · 05-23-2021, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by wstruth

Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them.

The last I looked, the list of update able TT685 and V860 models was in flux. Do you know if there is a full list somewhere of models that may be controlled from the Pentax-flavored flash and controllers?

Steve

madbrain · 05-23-2021, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by wstruth

The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master.

Thanks. That's pretty interesting. I do have an m4/3 camera. Not sure I care enough to buy a TT350O for it, though.

madbrain · 05-23-2021, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by wstruth

The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master.

So, Adorama has the XproO trigger for Olympus/Panasonic on sale for just $20, so that is pretty tempting.

https://www.adorama.com/fprrr2proo.html?

Do you think this trigger, when mounted onto my Lumix GX85 m43 body, would work with the TT350P off-camera setup as wireless slave in TTL mode ?

Conversely, do you think the X2T-P trigger, when mounted on my K-1 II, would work with the TT350O (Olympus/Panasonic mode) off-camera as wireless slave in TTL mode ?
Same question for X2T-P trigger with the TT685O flash ?

**West Penn** · 05-24-2021, 06:21 AM

Originally posted by madbrain

So, Adorama has the XproO trigger for Olympus/Panasonic on sale for just $20, so that is pretty tempting.

https://www.adorama.com/fprrr2proo.html?

Conversely, do you think the X2T-P trigger, when mounted on my K-1 II, would work with the TT350O (Olympus/Panasonic mode) off-camera as wireless slave in TTL mode ?
Same question for X2T-P trigger with the TT685O flash ?

I recently purchased from Adorama the Flashpoint R2 Mark II TTL Transmitter for Pentax that was on sale to use on my K-3II in connection with the Flashpoint Mini for Olympus/Panasonic, It triggers the flash off-camera in manual mode fine, but in TTL mode the flash seems to fire only at full power as everything is overexposed even if exposure compensation is used. Before buying the transmitter, i understood that it would work in TTL mode off-camera; if it does, I haven't figured out how to do that yet, so hopefully someone will provide details on how to accomplish this.

05-08-2021, 05:18 PM	#1
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080	Flashpoint R2 Mark2 X2T versus Pro and Pro Mark2 A excellent deal on this was posted. Flashpoint R2 Mark II Trigger (X2T-P) [Adorama] - $29.99 + Ship - PentaxForums.com What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one please? Thanks. Last edited by bladerunner6; 05-09-2021 at 06:14 AM.

05-23-2021, 11:53 AM - 1 Like	#11
wstruth Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: at my kitchen table Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,294	Originally posted by madbrain Not all models are cross brand, unfortunately. The TT350 series isn't, reportedly. So my newly acquired TT350P (Pentax version) can only work with the X2T-P trigger (also Pentax versions). Supposedly, all other series of Godox/Flashpoint triggers and flashes can be mixed. The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master. Last edited by wstruth; 05-23-2021 at 12:04 PM.

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05-09-2021, 05:09 AM	#2
wstruth Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: at my kitchen table Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,294	I'm not that well versed in triggers, but... the advantage of this unit is you can mount a flash on to this one. An advantage of the Godox/Flashpoint system (when you have multiple camera systems like I do) you can use the flashes for one system as slaves for the other system. So my Micro 4/3 flashes can be used as slaves when I shoot with my Pentax's. And vise a versa.

05-09-2021, 05:38 AM	#3
JensE Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Leipzig Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,969	Originally posted by bladerunner6 A excellent deal on this was posted. Flashpoint R2 Mark II Trigger (X2T-P) [Adorama] - $29.99 + Ship - PentaxForums.com What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one ☝️ lease? Thanks. The bigger display and dedicated group buttons make it easier to control multiple groups. The Pro Mark 2 may seem a little complex for just casual use, but simple things remain easy.

05-09-2021, 06:09 AM	#4
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080 Original Poster	Originally posted by JensE The bigger display and dedicated group buttons make it easier to control multiple groups. The Pro Mark 2 may seem a little complex for just casual use, but simple things remain easy. You have actually used these? Thanks.

05-09-2021, 09:25 AM - 3 Likes	#5
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by bladerunner6 What are the advantages of the other controllers versus this one please? The Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII is the best trigger, in my view. It combines the functions of all the others (Bluetooth, channel scan, etc.), whereas the X2T and the XPro only give you a subset of the features respectively. It has the best ergonomics because it saves you menu-diving and multiple button presses due to having more dedicated buttons. This results in some duplication of function availability, but the latter is not really a problem. It's buttons are backlit and the group buttons are arranged around the dial, so there is less finger/hand movement when you adjust power levels. Toggling groups is done efficiently by just double-tapping group buttons. The other triggers require a cumbersome use of the mode button and cycling through three options for groups A-C just to toggle a group on and off. It's only potential downsides are that it is a bit bigger and unlike the X2T, it does not offer a hot-shoe connector. However, it trades the hot-shoe connection for a much larger display. Some users find the front-facing display of the X2T easy to read when the camera is mounted high on a tripod, for instance. In my view, the number of scenarios where the tilted displays of the XPro or the R2 Pro MarkII work better is much higher. At $69 it is cheap enough that I would give it the nod any time of the day.

05-09-2021, 09:27 AM - 2 Likes	#6
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by bladerunner6 You have actually used these? For what it is worth, I have all three triggers. I only bought the X2T because the R2 Pro Mark II was not available for Pentax yet at the time and because a video by Robert Hall misled viewers to believe that the X2T allowed toggling the group status by double tapping on a group button. That was only possible with the engineering sample he presented, the production units went back to the brain-dead complicated detour via the mode button.

05-09-2021, 11:30 AM - 1 Like	#7
bladerunner6 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Photos: Albums Posts: 2,080 Original Poster	Originally posted by Class A For what it is worth, I have all three triggers. I only bought the X2T because the R2 Pro Mark II was not available for Pentax yet at the time and because a video by Robert Hall misled viewers to believe that the X2T allowed toggling the group status by double tapping on a group button. That was only possible with the engineering sample he presented, the production units went back to the brain-dead complicated detour via the mode button. Thanks, that you have all three is extremely helpful.

05-09-2021, 09:53 PM	#8
builttospill Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Utah, Idaho Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,398	I use the Flashpoint R2 Pro Mark ii trigger. I use this with an R2 Transceiver for non-Flashpoint/Godox flashes, and an XPLOR 400 Pro, and several Flashpoint flashes. It's a fantastic system.

05-16-2021, 08:17 AM - 1 Like	#9
Biff Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: SF Bay Area Photos: Albums Posts: 1,082	Originally posted by Class A The Flashpoint R2 Pro MarkII is the best trigger, in my view. It combines the functions of all the others (Bluetooth, channel scan, etc.), whereas the X2T and the XPro only give you a subset of the features respectively. It has the best ergonomics because it saves you menu-diving and multiple button presses due to having more dedicated buttons. This results in some duplication of function availability, but the latter is not really a problem. It's buttons are backlit and the group buttons are arranged around the dial, so there is less finger/hand movement when you adjust power levels. Toggling groups is done efficiently by just double-tapping group buttons. The other triggers require a cumbersome use of the mode button and cycling through three options for groups A-C just to toggle a group on and off. It's only potential downsides are that it is a bit bigger and unlike the X2T, it does not offer a hot-shoe connector. However, it trades the hot-shoe connection for a much larger display. Some users find the front-facing display of the X2T easy to read when the camera is mounted high on a tripod, for instance. In my view, the number of scenarios where the tilted displays of the XPro or the R2 Pro MarkII work better is much higher. At $69 it is cheap enough that I would give it the nod any time of the day. Thanks for your thoughts on the R2 Pro Mark II. I have one, haven't tried it yet, now I'm looking forward to it even more.

05-20-2021, 04:04 AM	#10
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	Originally posted by wstruth I'm not that well versed in triggers, but... the advantage of this unit is you can mount a flash on to this one. An advantage of the Godox/Flashpoint system (when you have multiple camera systems like I do) you can use the flashes for one system as slaves for the other system. So my Micro 4/3 flashes can be used as slaves when I shoot with my Pentax's. And vise a versa. Not all models are cross brand, unfortunately. The TT350 series isn't, reportedly. So my newly acquired TT350P (Pentax version) can only work with the X2T-P trigger (also Pentax versions). Supposedly, all other series of Godox/Flashpoint triggers and flashes can be mixed.

05-23-2021, 03:04 PM	#12
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by wstruth Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. The last I looked, the list of update able TT685 and V860 models was in flux. Do you know if there is a full list somewhere of models that may be controlled from the Pentax-flavored flash and controllers? Steve

05-23-2021, 03:45 PM	#13
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	Originally posted by wstruth The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master. Thanks. That's pretty interesting. I do have an m4/3 camera. Not sure I care enough to buy a TT350O for it, though.

05-23-2021, 04:52 PM	#14
madbrain Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,341	Originally posted by wstruth The Pentax compatible Godox units are the newest TTL flavor for Godox. Most other Godox units that came before needed a firmware update to work with them. My M43 Godox flashes TT350 and V86011 fire as slaves when the TT350P or the XproP trigger is master. So, Adorama has the XproO trigger for Olympus/Panasonic on sale for just $20, so that is pretty tempting. https://www.adorama.com/fprrr2proo.html? Do you think this trigger, when mounted onto my Lumix GX85 m43 body, would work with the TT350P off-camera setup as wireless slave in TTL mode ? Conversely, do you think the X2T-P trigger, when mounted on my K-1 II, would work with the TT350O (Olympus/Panasonic mode) off-camera as wireless slave in TTL mode ? Same question for X2T-P trigger with the TT685O flash ?

05-24-2021, 06:21 AM	#15
West Penn Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 250	Originally posted by madbrain So, Adorama has the XproO trigger for Olympus/Panasonic on sale for just $20, so that is pretty tempting. https://www.adorama.com/fprrr2proo.html? Conversely, do you think the X2T-P trigger, when mounted on my K-1 II, would work with the TT350O (Olympus/Panasonic mode) off-camera as wireless slave in TTL mode ? Same question for X2T-P trigger with the TT685O flash ? I recently purchased from Adorama the Flashpoint R2 Mark II TTL Transmitter for Pentax that was on sale to use on my K-3II in connection with the Flashpoint Mini for Olympus/Panasonic, It triggers the flash off-camera in manual mode fine, but in TTL mode the flash seems to fire only at full power as everything is overexposed even if exposure compensation is used. Before buying the transmitter, i understood that it would work in TTL mode off-camera; if it does, I haven't figured out how to do that yet, so hopefully someone will provide details on how to accomplish this.