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res3567 · 06-08-2009, 01:07 AM

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Macro shooters, check it:

Ring Light Macro Flash for Pentax K200D K20D Camera NEW - eBay (item 110389171545 end time Jun-11-09 07:22:07 PDT)

chirpy · 06-08-2009, 09:14 AM

It's mis-leading, as they don't support P-TTL (the camera make in the ads is arbitrary) so they have to be used in either AUTO (which provides little illumination or macro) or full power. They are fun to use (I own the Chinese Starblitz version, though they're the same) and you basically have to drop the f-stop until the photo's aren't blown-out anymore

I wouldn't really recommend them. That said, it is a powerful flash, so if you can cope with it using full power all the time, it could be handy.

séamuis · 06-08-2009, 10:22 AM

pentax has its own ring light currently available. PENTAX AF160FG Auto Macro Ring Flash - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site

Blue · 06-08-2009, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by séamuis

pentax has its own ring light currently available. PENTAX AF160FG Auto Macro Ring Flash - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site

As does Sigma, Metz and Promaster.

roy · 06-08-2009, 04:16 PM

i don't really like them because the images are too flat. no depth.. you can put blk tape on one side to get higher f-stops and some depth..

Blue · 06-08-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by roy

i don't really like them because the images are too flat. no depth.. you can put blk tape on one side to get higher f-stops and some depth..

Why do you need black tape? One side can be turned off and the output can be controlled. Even my previous generation ttl macrolume can do that as well as my EM3 for my old canon system. In fact, the previous generation macrolume had diffusers as well.

The sigma EM-140 can work in wireless, p-ttl or ttl.

The bottom line is that with the new Pentax, Sigma, Metz and Promaster, either side can be turned off and the output adjusted as well.

Edit: Perhaps you were talking about the one in the ebay link instead of the past 2 or 3 posts.

GerryL · 06-08-2009, 06:27 PM

Most of these macro ringlights they sell at ebay are mostly not flash per se but actual lights that you turn off and turn on.
They are mostly white super bright LED's which are now commonly used for LED flashlights (handheld used to show you a path in the dark and not used for camera flash).
The usual flash ringlights are much much more expensive than these (..ones that can be mounted on the dslr's hot shoe).

Blue · 06-08-2009, 06:36 PM

here's the other p-ttl option from Germany. A couple of members on this board have them. FS999 is one of them.

D"rr Combi TTL Flash Pentax > Flitsen > D"rr - Foto Rubens: Uw partner voor méér fotoplezier !

GerryL · 06-08-2009, 06:45 PM

This flash looks good!
Is this the only site where you can get them?
Converted the Euro and it amounts to $360 USD.

roy · 06-08-2009, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Blue

Why do you need black tape? One side can be turned off and the output can be controlled. .

sorry but i did not know the specs on it.. even so i still like my sigma 500s on a custom grip..

Blue · 06-08-2009, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by roy

sorry but i did not know the specs on it.. even so i still like my sigma 500s on a custom grip..

Custom grips can be a whole other can of worms.

Blue · 06-08-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by GerryL

This flash looks good!
Is this the only site where you can get them?
Converted the Euro and it amounts to $360 USD.

There was a vendor on ebay at one time. This is one of the downsides to this brand. However, I'd would have gone with it instead of the Sigma had I known about it at the time. The cool thing about this rig is it can be used as a regular flash! Here is the ebay link but they aren't currently selling.

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/Doerr-Combi-TTL-Flash-Ringblitz-Blitz-fuer-Sony_W0QQi...QQcmdZViewItem

Edit: Here is the full specifications on the Dorr Combi

Max. Guide number with ISO 100: 34
Controls TTL: P-TTL for Pentax and Samsung

Zoom shot reflector: 28, 35, 50 and 85 mms, manually adjustable : 0°/30°/45°/60°/90°
AF red light-measuring ray: range approx. 1 - 5 m
Exposure control announcement: green LED at device back
Flash readiness announcement: red LED at device back flash
Flash duration : approx. 1 / 500s - 1 / 30.000s
Flash recharge: approx. 0.5-7s
Flash number: approx. 150 - 2.000
Clour temperatures: approx. 5.500 K (corresponds to daylight films)
Button : in device back
Energy: 4x1,5V AA Mignon batteries (Alkaline) or NiMH of the same type
Weight : approx. 250 gr (without batteries)
Dimensions: approx. 85x73x120mm

Technical data for the ring flash
Max guide number with ISO 100: 6 (one side), 8.4 (both sides)
Color temperature : aprox. 5.500K
AF help light: 2 x inside ring flash
Weight: aprox. 190 gr.
Dimensions : 120 x 120 x 30mm (without cable)

res3567 · 06-08-2009, 08:35 PM

Ok guys, check my Third Party Flash post and tell me what you think. Thanks for all of your replies BTW!

mattdm · 06-08-2009, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Blue

here's the other p-ttl option from Germany. A couple of members on this board have them. FS999 is one of them.

D"rr Combi TTL Flash Pentax > Flitsen > D"rr - Foto Rubens: Uw partner voor méér fotoplezier !

Looks like it's another one made by Icorp/Tumax (like the Dörr DAF-42, Sakar / Digital Concepts 952AF/PEN, and Vivitar DF400MZ.)

TUMAX Digital Macro Flash Series - DMR

They also make the Xotopro twin (well, triple) flash macro system.

séamuis · 06-09-2009, 05:06 AM

Quote:

They also make the Xotopro twin (well, triple) flash macro system.

that is one hell of a flash setup.

06-08-2009, 01:07 AM	#1
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876	Macro Flash Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Macro shooters, check it: Ring Light Macro Flash for Pentax K200D K20D Camera NEW - eBay (item 110389171545 end time Jun-11-09 07:22:07 PDT)

06-08-2009, 06:19 PM	#6
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by roy i don't really like them because the images are too flat. no depth.. you can put blk tape on one side to get higher f-stops and some depth.. Why do you need black tape? One side can be turned off and the output can be controlled. Even my previous generation ttl macrolume can do that as well as my EM3 for my old canon system. In fact, the previous generation macrolume had diffusers as well. The sigma EM-140 can work in wireless, p-ttl or ttl. The bottom line is that with the new Pentax, Sigma, Metz and Promaster, either side can be turned off and the output adjusted as well. Edit: Perhaps you were talking about the one in the ebay link instead of the past 2 or 3 posts. Last edited by Blue; 06-08-2009 at 06:37 PM.

06-08-2009, 06:51 PM	#12
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by GerryL This flash looks good! Is this the only site where you can get them? Converted the Euro and it amounts to $360 USD. There was a vendor on ebay at one time. This is one of the downsides to this brand. However, I'd would have gone with it instead of the Sigma had I known about it at the time. The cool thing about this rig is it can be used as a regular flash! Here is the ebay link but they aren't currently selling. http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/Doerr-Combi-TTL-Flash-Ringblitz-Blitz-fuer-Sony_W0QQi...QQcmdZViewItem Edit: Here is the full specifications on the Dorr Combi Max. Guide number with ISO 100: 34 Controls TTL: P-TTL for Pentax and Samsung Zoom shot reflector: 28, 35, 50 and 85 mms, manually adjustable : 0°/30°/45°/60°/90° AF red light-measuring ray: range approx. 1 - 5 m Exposure control announcement: green LED at device back Flash readiness announcement: red LED at device back flash Flash duration : approx. 1 / 500s - 1 / 30.000s Flash recharge: approx. 0.5-7s Flash number: approx. 150 - 2.000 Clour temperatures: approx. 5.500 K (corresponds to daylight films) Button : in device back Energy: 4x1,5V AA Mignon batteries (Alkaline) or NiMH of the same type Weight : approx. 250 gr (without batteries) Dimensions: approx. 85x73x120mm Technical data for the ring flash Max guide number with ISO 100: 6 (one side), 8.4 (both sides) Color temperature : aprox. 5.500K AF help light: 2 x inside ring flash Weight: aprox. 190 gr. Dimensions : 120 x 120 x 30mm (without cable) Last edited by Blue; 06-08-2009 at 07:02 PM.

06-08-2009, 08:56 PM	#14
mattdm Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Boston, MA Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,948	Originally posted by Blue here's the other p-ttl option from Germany. A couple of members on this board have them. FS999 is one of them. D"rr Combi TTL Flash Pentax > Flitsen > D"rr - Foto Rubens: Uw partner voor méér fotoplezier ! Looks like it's another one made by Icorp/Tumax (like the Dörr DAF-42, Sakar / Digital Concepts 952AF/PEN, and Vivitar DF400MZ.) TUMAX Digital Macro Flash Series - DMR They also make the Xotopro twin (well, triple) flash macro system. Last edited by mattdm; 06-09-2009 at 05:28 AM.

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06-08-2009, 09:14 AM	#2
chirpy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK, Berkshire Posts: 143	It's mis-leading, as they don't support P-TTL (the camera make in the ads is arbitrary) so they have to be used in either AUTO (which provides little illumination or macro) or full power. They are fun to use (I own the Chinese Starblitz version, though they're the same) and you basically have to drop the f-stop until the photo's aren't blown-out anymore I wouldn't really recommend them. That said, it is a powerful flash, so if you can cope with it using full power all the time, it could be handy.

06-08-2009, 10:22 AM	#3
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	pentax has its own ring light currently available. PENTAX AF160FG Auto Macro Ring Flash - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site

06-08-2009, 01:12 PM	#4
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by séamuis pentax has its own ring light currently available. PENTAX AF160FG Auto Macro Ring Flash - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site As does Sigma, Metz and Promaster.

06-08-2009, 04:16 PM	#5
roy Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: D/FW area, Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,710	i don't really like them because the images are too flat. no depth.. you can put blk tape on one side to get higher f-stops and some depth..

06-08-2009, 06:27 PM	#7
GerryL Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,731	Most of these macro ringlights they sell at ebay are mostly not flash per se but actual lights that you turn off and turn on. They are mostly white super bright LED's which are now commonly used for LED flashlights (handheld used to show you a path in the dark and not used for camera flash). The usual flash ringlights are much much more expensive than these (..ones that can be mounted on the dslr's hot shoe).

06-08-2009, 06:36 PM	#8
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	here's the other p-ttl option from Germany. A couple of members on this board have them. FS999 is one of them. D"rr Combi TTL Flash Pentax > Flitsen > D"rr - Foto Rubens: Uw partner voor méér fotoplezier !

06-08-2009, 06:45 PM	#9
GerryL Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA Posts: 2,731	This flash looks good! Is this the only site where you can get them? Converted the Euro and it amounts to $360 USD.

06-08-2009, 06:48 PM	#10
roy Inactive Account Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: D/FW area, Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,710	Originally posted by Blue Why do you need black tape? One side can be turned off and the output can be controlled. . sorry but i did not know the specs on it.. even so i still like my sigma 500s on a custom grip..

06-08-2009, 06:50 PM	#11
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by roy sorry but i did not know the specs on it.. even so i still like my sigma 500s on a custom grip.. Custom grips can be a whole other can of worms.

06-08-2009, 08:35 PM	#13
res3567 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Tx. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,876 Original Poster	Ok guys, check my Third Party Flash post and tell me what you think. Thanks for all of your replies BTW!

06-09-2009, 05:06 AM	#15
séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	Quote: They also make the Xotopro twin (well, triple) flash macro system. that is one hell of a flash setup.