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07-17-2011, 07:27 AM   #706
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photos from Pentax Q...there are 3200*2400

to say honest - absolutely ordinary pictures - common P&S's result.
You pretty much say that about all Pentax lenses. You think the 18-55 can do anything any of the primes in its range. You have said so.

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You pretty much say that about all Pentax lenses. You think the 18-55 can do anything any of the primes in its range. You have said so.
It's a lie.

Lenses? I don't say about lens. I say that it's typical plastic picture from tiny P&S sensor.

Do you want to refute it?

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
to say honest - absolutely ordinary pictures - common P&S's result.
I saw this pic and I thought, wow, the background blur mode might actually work:



Then I saw this pic and I changed my mind really quick:



Words don't begin to explain how crappy that looks.

That said, I'd say a few of the pics in that Photostream look better than standard P&S's. Again, the problem is price. At $300-400 I might choose the Q over something like an Olympus X-Z1, but at $800, no way no how would I get the Q over a $500 Olympus E-PM1. The EPM1 is just in a different IQ class all together and cheaper to boot.

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Interesting pictures from the Q Touch & Try event. But am I the only one thinking that showing off the K-1 is completely pointless unless they wanted to make a statement like "The real new K-1 will come soon"?

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QuoteOriginally posted by ogl Quote
It's a lie.

Lenses? I don't say about lens. I say that it's typical plastic picture from tiny P&S sensor.

Do you want to refute it?

Flickr: schaft9's Photostream

I wasn't referring to the sensor comment specifically but that you very often slam Pentax lenses etc. You often come across as Rice Low's Russian cousin.

Sure I'll, refute it. You told me a shot I made with a DA 35mm Ltd could be done with the DA 18-55mm Kit lens. You shouldn't make a habit of calling people liars. There is a plethora of examples in various threads regarding your criticism of various lenses and sensors.

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Looks like the embargo has been lifted, other Flickr users also uploaded samples:
flickr.com/photos/detch/sets/72157627081540731/with/5944481150

Flickr: hisway306's stuff tagged with q

flickr.com/photos/mawari/sets/72157627156353248

Yep, BC mode is totally worthless:





But on a good note. ISO is better than expected. Of course the images could just be using a ton of noise reduction, but at least there is no banding around ISO800. After all, it wasn't even long ago that DSLR's were pretty much unusable above ISO800 (my old K10D was one of them).

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QuoteOriginally posted by Art Vandelay II Quote
I saw this pic and I thought, wow, the background blur mode might actually work:



Then I saw this pic and I changed my mind really quick:



Words don't begin to explain how crappy that looks.
That was exactly my thought process. "Oh this works really well maybe they've got someth- wait no."

I am really curious though what this large K-1 object is...
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I am really curious though what this large K-1 object is...
That was a full frame DSLR that never made it to market:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2006/02/17/3233.html

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the k-1 thing looks a lot like the mz-d.

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Whow Knows, Ricoh went crazy and releases the FF. Sony A77 Sensor with Prime III?
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That K-1 is a strange teaser from them I think. They take an MZ-D prototype and label it K-1 and shoot that with the Q? I mean WTF?

BTW, three years ago there was a rumor about a Chinese company caller Patriot Aigo planning to release an MZ-D clone called K-1. WTF?

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The Aigo was a fake i think. Somebody confirmed it was photoshopped before.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Art Vandelay II Quote
Considering the age of the system I've been pleased so far with their lens line up. They've already covered everything from 14-600mm (in full frame terms) with many excellent primes. In fact it looks like Olympus might have even outdone the Pentax Limiteds with their new 12mm f/2.
Remember I am only interested in primes. A full prime line up would be something like 28, 35, 50, 70, 100, 135, 200 (35mm equivalent) - Micro 4/3 is not even close to this range, which the K mount easily meets. At a pinch, the minimum should be 28, 50, 100 - the Panasonic line up meets this with the 14, 20/25 and 45 but doesn't have much else.

But to me the biggest factor is usability/ergonomics, i.e. not a dumbed down user interface lacking in controls.

So far, I have not handled a single Micro 4/3 body that feels anything like using an SLR - they all feel like overgrown compacts.

PS - you're right - those BC pictures from the Q sure look crappy. I guess there's only a limited set of conditions that the BC mode would be effective on.
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Looks like the embargo has been lifted, other Flickr users also uploaded samples:
flickr.com/photos/detch/sets/72157627081540731/with/5944481150

Flickr: hisway306's stuff tagged with q

flickr.com/photos/mawari/sets/72157627156353248

Yep, BC mode is totally worthless:





But on a good note. ISO is better than expected. Of course the images could just be using a ton of noise reduction, but at least there is no banding around ISO800. After all, it wasn't even long ago that DSLR's were pretty much unusable above ISO800 (my old K10D was one of them).
Hey, thanks for doing the digging. I enjoyed viewing those sets.

Agree - BC is not very useful. [Edit: although the second link has some pretty good pictures. Maybe the usefulness depends on the skill of the photographer. Gee, that's a novel concept!]

High iso is pretty good, better than my K10D.

Image quality on the prime - pretty good, comparable to my K10D I think, give or take. Not quite FA43 standard, but meh.

The fish eye lens gives pretty soft images. If that's the best it can do, I don't think I'll be buying that.

Are any of the pictures taken with the toy lenses? Or are they not out yet?

PS - and what's the story with those two women in everyone's photos? They look like rejects from the maid cafe that Pentax has roped in at the last minute :-)

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I wouldn't call that background blur, I'd say it's more of an out of focus vignette like you would get from a Holga or Diana. It reminds me of the Alien Skin settings in color and b/w to get the Holga or Diana look using various film emulsions.

This just reinforces my opinion along with the Toy Lenses that this camera is being made for perhaps a different market segment than a lot of the people on this forum.

I think it's a great idea but way overpriced. I'd pay $400 for the body and two toy lenses.
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