Originally posted by sjwaldron I was talking about the going rate on popular online stores that are safe and usually offer decent prices. So I'm currently assuming the Q will stay around $800 for a few months at least in my previous comment.
Not really - most camera stores here will discount if you ask politely enough. If I buy the Q, I certainly will not be buying it at retail.
The G12 is being discounted more heavily because it's an old model (most stores will sell it at closer to $500 if you haggle) , and there are rumours it will be replaced soon. In any case it's clearly being outclassed by the new models (and it does not have interchangeable lenses) so even at half the price it's probably not such a great buy.
But the Pentax Q, Panasonic GF3 and Olympus E-PL3 are all selling for around the same RRP so they will all have around the same street price.
Out of those 3, I would remove the E-PL3 from my short list. dpreview said high ISO performance is mediocre, the camera is bigger than it's competitors and (in my eyes) uglier. The kit lens is also fugly and huge. The only positives for this camera are the articulating screen, and supposedly fast focus (okay it focused pretty quickly when I tested it, but I don't think the focus accuracy is very high - there's a few missed shots).
The Q and the GF3 are both in my short list at the moment. The GF3 plus Leica 25mm lens is going to be expensive, and dpreview reports slow focusing on the 20mm lens. Actually, I found the GF3 to focus quite slowly on the Leica 25mm as well, so Panasonic's focusing system doesn't seem to work well with primes that have shallow DOF.
Q I haven't tested yet, but essentially for A$799 retail (I'm thinking street is $100 less maybe?) I get exactly what I want - a small compact camera with manual controls, raw mode and a standard prime. The gotcha at the moment is the lag time between shots - hoping zxaar can provide an update today on lag time for raw or jpeg only.