Originally posted by Vylen You need to get out of your shell of the old days and just keep trying.
I could connect an iPad2 to my Cisco Linksys router fine with WPA2 encryption.
As for drawing the line at a MacBook, I don't see how it's any different from any other laptop - laptops are generally not meant to be user-serviceable apart from RAM. So if you bought a Dell, HP or Lenovo and they broke, you'd have to send it in to an authorised service-person anyway.
P.S, I own a Mac Pro tower
P.P.S Best not to get off-topic heheh
The "old days"? I can guarantee you I have newer equipment than 99.9% of this forum -- there's nothing "old days" about me other than I remember and currently know Apple for everything they were and still are (or should that be weren't and aren't?). I don't know why you would assume that because I don't care for Apple products (for legitimate, specified reasons) that I don't have modern equipment or that I'm living in the "old days".
I just replaced the motherboard in my wife's 2-year-old Dell notebook a couple of months ago, under warranty from Dell. I called them up, told them the part I needed, they sent it out, I returned the dead one to them (all postage paid and completely free). Did the same thing with two Dell notebooks 5 years ago, and replaced a screen, keyboard, and power supply (again completely under warranty) in a Compaq notebook about 7 years ago. Apple would never allow their customers to do that, which is why their warranty periods are shorter (they have to pay their techs and keep their overpriced repair centers open). Admittedly, that's perfectly fine for most consumers, and I completely understand that. However, I have the knowledge and experience to be able to service/repair my own equipment, which is why I don't want my family members to have Apple products because I don't feel like paying the extra money to have someone else repair them.
I'm not talking about Cisco Linksys co-branded routers -- those are consumer grade. I'm also talking about an original 64GB iPad (not the iPad2 that they had to release to correct these type of problems). None of my other modern equipment has any trouble connecting to the Cisco routers/AP's: 7 PCs, Nintendo Wii, Sony Playstation 3, Microsoft XBox 360, 4 Nintendo DS/DSi devices, 3 DirecTV DVRs, Acer A500 Android tablet, HTC Evo 4G phone, Blackberry phone, and three different printers. I guess I just got "lucky" with all that equipment, but "unlucky" only on the three different Apple devices I've tried???
My network equipment is industry standard. The problem I'm encountering is that Apple products are not industry standard, never have been, and likely never will be. Lately (especially with the i-devices) that's because Apple is so popular that they can attempt to create their own standard, but sometimes it's just bad design where they're simply not working to any established standard, which I think is frequently a bad decision for their customers.
Discussing computer equipment on a DIGITAL photography forum is never off-topic.
Originally posted by gazonk Please go somewhere else with your Apple flaming, you're just being ridiculous, and this is not the place.
(I know what I'm talking about. I have used all kinds of computers for 30 years and develop software for linux, Windows and Mac OS X. I've changed hard disks in my childrens' MacBooks a total of 7 or 8 times, piece of cake - but not on PowerBooks or the very first MacBook Pro's, so maybe you're simply not updated)
It's not flaming -- it's opinion based on fact and experience. The only people who would complain about my anti-Apple opinions are Apple zealots. I don't mind if you disagree with or even contradict my opinions -- plenty of people do. Apple devices are VERY popular. However, to accuse me of flaming and attempting to discredit my opinions and even my extensive experience just makes your statements above look hypocritical and smacks of Apple zealotism.
Again, discussing computer hardware and software preferences is perfectly normal on a DIGITAL photography forum. The only time there are problems is when people resort to zealot enthusiasm instead simply stating facts, calm opinions, or experience.
Besides, it's not like the original thread topic (the Pentax Q) is going anywhere constructive anyway.
Again, the accusation of being outdated (see my response above). A child could change out a hard drive in any computer -- desktop or notebook. In most modern systems that task is accomplished without touching a single tool. Let me know when Apple allows you (as in doing it yourself) to replace a motherboard under warranty and then I'll agree that Apple devices are an option for someone like me, and therefore my children.
Folks, it's just a namebrand, and my opinions are just opinions. Unless your last name is Jobs or Gates, you really shouldn't feel so passionately and emotionally about your choice in computers.
Well, I guess we can all go back to bashing the whole idea of the Q now? Or have we all moved on to the doom and gloom of Ricoh buying out Pentax?