Pentax Q in the Flesh

aurele · 09-12-2011, 02:42 PM

i know Nikon has some factory in Thailand, but Pentax is not supposed to have some, AFAIK.

Class A · 09-12-2011, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by deadwolfbones

... there's no dSLR or equivalent with usable in-video AF at the moment.

What about the Sony α33 / α55 / α77?
They all offer constant phase detect AF.

sjwaldron · 09-12-2011, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Interesting detail on this 05 Toy Lens Tele, as on the oher lenses : it appears to me that to date, Pentax had no factory in Thailand... is this confirmation the lenses are made by Ricoh ?

I'd say that's possible or even likely. Seeing as Nikon is there, sourcing general lens components is probably easier too.

News release | Ricoh Global
News release | Ricoh Global << mentions printer components, but that was 3 years ago.

If it is Ricoh, we see some actual business connections were made well before the transfer scheduled for October.

rawr · 09-12-2011, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by sjwaldron

Nikon is there

Sony is in Thailand too. The NEX is assembled there and Sony lenses for the NEX - eg the 16mm - also come from Thailand.

conradj · 09-12-2011, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Zygonyx

Interesting detail on this 05 Toy Lens Tele, as on the oher lenses : it appears to me that to date, Pentax had no factory in Thailand... is this confirmation the lenses are made by Ricoh ?

That looks ... inexpensive.

Reminds me a bit of a Brownie. i hope it's interesting optically.

--Was just looking at Ned Bunnell's Posterous blog. His Q photos have good exposure, saturation ramped up and the blue cast toned down that so many Q shots have displayed. They're quite nice at web sizes: wonder what they look like full size.

Asahiflex · 09-12-2011, 10:39 PM

FWIW: I have also NEVER seen a Pentax lens with Japanese kanji on it.

Spock · 09-12-2011, 11:45 PM

Apologies if this has been discussed (I don't have the time to read 87 pages!) but what are these 'toy' lenses?

I like the idea of a compact interchangeable lens camera but not if the lenses don't match up to normal Pentax image quality standards.

rawr · 09-13-2011, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Spock

what are these 'toy' lenses?

Camera Lens - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site

There are 5 Q mount lenses, of which 2 feature 'toy' effect optics - one does quirky wide angle, another Lomo-style vignetting etc.

Zygonyx · 09-13-2011, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by conradj

That looks ... inexpensive.

Reminds me a bit of a Brownie. i hope it's interesting optically.

--Was just looking at Ned Bunnell's Posterous blog. His Q photos have good exposure, saturation ramped up and the blue cast toned down that so many Q shots have displayed. They're quite nice at web sizes: wonder what they look like full size.

Yes, unexpensive to built it must be !

I just wait to recieve my Q to test image quality...

Originally posted by Asahiflex

FWIW: I have also NEVER seen a Pentax lens with Japanese kanji on it.

Would it be a mark of local preference targetted market ?

gazonk · 09-13-2011, 02:40 AM

Originally posted by falconeye

This means the average profit per Canon SLR sold is $250.

Plastic is cheap

aurele · 09-13-2011, 02:46 AM

you're right !

Couscousdelight · 09-13-2011, 03:49 AM

Pentax Q falls on 47th place on BNC camera ranking...
????????????????BCN?????????

gazonk · 09-13-2011, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Couscousdelight

Pentax Q falls on 47th place on BNC camera ranking...

Pentax has been conspicuously low in the bcn rankings for about a year now - could it be that Pentax changed it retail channels in a way that made them appear lower in the channels? (BCN only counts sales from some retailers)

When this was discussed some months ago, someone mentioned kakaku, and while the Q is quite low on the list, it shows a completely different picture for the K-5 (the K-5+18-135 is the most popular kit in both rankings, but is number 28 in the kakaku ranking and 67 in the bcn ranking):
‰¿Ši.com - ƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ˆêŠáƒJƒƒ‰ l‹C”„‚ê‹Øƒ‰ƒ“ƒLƒ“ƒO

Zygonyx · 09-13-2011, 04:41 AM

Strange evolution in one week time.
Are the retailers'shelves full, waiting for customers to buy it ?

deadwolfbones · 09-13-2011, 06:39 AM

Originally posted by Class A

What about the Sony α33 / α55 / α77?
They all offer constant phase detect AF.

We'll see how it actually works in practice...

09-13-2011, 12:57 AM	#1299
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Originally posted by conradj That looks ... inexpensive. Reminds me a bit of a Brownie. i hope it's interesting optically. --Was just looking at Ned Bunnell's Posterous blog. His Q photos have good exposure, saturation ramped up and the blue cast toned down that so many Q shots have displayed. They're quite nice at web sizes: wonder what they look like full size. Yes, unexpensive to built it must be ! I just wait to recieve my Q to test image quality... Originally posted by Asahiflex FWIW: I have also NEVER seen a Pentax lens with Japanese kanji on it. Would it be a mark of local preference targetted market ? Last edited by Zygonyx; 09-13-2011 at 03:32 AM.

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09-12-2011, 02:42 PM	#1291
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	i know Nikon has some factory in Thailand, but Pentax is not supposed to have some, AFAIK.

09-12-2011, 03:03 PM	#1292
Class A Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 11,251	Originally posted by deadwolfbones ... there's no dSLR or equivalent with usable in-video AF at the moment. What about the Sony α33 / α55 / α77? They all offer constant phase detect AF.

09-12-2011, 03:06 PM	#1293
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Originally posted by Zygonyx Interesting detail on this 05 Toy Lens Tele, as on the oher lenses : it appears to me that to date, Pentax had no factory in Thailand... is this confirmation the lenses are made by Ricoh ? I'd say that's possible or even likely. Seeing as Nikon is there, sourcing general lens components is probably easier too. News release \| Ricoh Global News release \| Ricoh Global << mentions printer components, but that was 3 years ago. If it is Ricoh, we see some actual business connections were made well before the transfer scheduled for October.

09-12-2011, 03:23 PM	#1294
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by sjwaldron Nikon is there Sony is in Thailand too. The NEX is assembled there and Sony lenses for the NEX - eg the 16mm - also come from Thailand.

09-12-2011, 09:21 PM	#1295
conradj Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Photos: Albums Posts: 188	Originally posted by Zygonyx Interesting detail on this 05 Toy Lens Tele, as on the oher lenses : it appears to me that to date, Pentax had no factory in Thailand... is this confirmation the lenses are made by Ricoh ? That looks ... inexpensive. Reminds me a bit of a Brownie. i hope it's interesting optically. --Was just looking at Ned Bunnell's Posterous blog. His Q photos have good exposure, saturation ramped up and the blue cast toned down that so many Q shots have displayed. They're quite nice at web sizes: wonder what they look like full size.

09-12-2011, 10:39 PM	#1296
Asahiflex Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,795	FWIW: I have also NEVER seen a Pentax lens with Japanese kanji on it.

09-12-2011, 11:45 PM	#1297
Spock Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Photos: Albums Posts: 674	Apologies if this has been discussed (I don't have the time to read 87 pages!) but what are these 'toy' lenses? I like the idea of a compact interchangeable lens camera but not if the lenses don't match up to normal Pentax image quality standards.

09-13-2011, 12:55 AM	#1298
rawr Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 11,913	Originally posted by Spock what are these 'toy' lenses? Camera Lens - Official PENTAX Imaging Web Site There are 5 Q mount lenses, of which 2 feature 'toy' effect optics - one does quirky wide angle, another Lomo-style vignetting etc.

09-13-2011, 02:40 AM	#1300
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by falconeye This means the average profit per Canon SLR sold is $250. Plastic is cheap

09-13-2011, 02:46 AM	#1301
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	you're right !

09-13-2011, 03:49 AM	#1302
Couscousdelight Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Frog-eaters country Photos: Gallery Posts: 357	Pentax Q falls on 47th place on BNC camera ranking... ????????????????BCN?????????

09-13-2011, 04:36 AM	#1303
gazonk Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Oslo area, Norway Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,746	Originally posted by Couscousdelight Pentax Q falls on 47th place on BNC camera ranking... Pentax has been conspicuously low in the bcn rankings for about a year now - could it be that Pentax changed it retail channels in a way that made them appear lower in the channels? (BCN only counts sales from some retailers) When this was discussed some months ago, someone mentioned kakaku, and while the Q is quite low on the list, it shows a completely different picture for the K-5 (the K-5+18-135 is the most popular kit in both rankings, but is number 28 in the kakaku ranking and 67 in the bcn ranking): ‰¿Ši.com - ƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ˆêŠáƒJƒƒ‰ l‹C”„‚ê‹Øƒ‰ƒ“ƒLƒ“ƒO

09-13-2011, 04:41 AM	#1304
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Strange evolution in one week time. Are the retailers'shelves full, waiting for customers to buy it ?

09-13-2011, 06:39 AM	#1305
deadwolfbones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Crescenta, CA Posts: 7,450	Originally posted by Class A What about the Sony α33 / α55 / α77? They all offer constant phase detect AF. We'll see how it actually works in practice...