Let's share shots with Q!

ndjedinak · 11-03-2012, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by NickLarsson

Thanks Nate!

Well, for traveling in another country I prefer taking the K-r or the K-01 with 2 or 3 primes because I favor IQ, but for street shooting the Q is really great, people notice you far less and you can bring this little thing with you everyday

After I converted to digital with the original d-rebel, I was an IQ freak. Digital just didn't match film at that point, especially in dynamic range, and I worked very hard to get the best IQ possible from my digital gear.

Over time, though, this wore on me. Last fall I took one of my old Leicas and 2 simple lenses (28 and 50s from Zeiss, I didn't chance taking my Leica glass) to China. I mostly shot tri-x, although I mixed in color now and again. I really enjoyed the minimalist experience:
//www.flickr.com/photos/ndjedinak/sets/72157628141616732

Tri-x isn't very high resolution, and has fairly large grain in 35mm (120 is a different story). I find the Q roughly equal to one of my old Barack Leicas shot on tri-x with period screwmount lenses. That's pretty darn good. Thus, I conclude I could have taken the Q with me to china (if pentax had a nice 28mm!!), and the shots would have been roughly comparable.

I just visited Hawaii, and took my x-pro 1. IQ is certainly better than the Q side by side, I find the x-pro approaches what I can get out of medium format (with a flatbed scanner, at least). I was surprised after printing a Q and X-Pro shot at 16x20 how well the Q stacks up. Since that time, I've started to probe more of the Q's limits--certainly, they are lower than a modern DSLR or even 35mm loaded with good film. But they're close enough, and used optimally, I've concluded it's good enough for me!

I'm likely leaving the x-pro at home for my trip to Europe this winter. I want to see what I can get out of the Q. And I'm sure ill enjoy the experience!

Anyway, just some rambling thoughts, thanks for sharing your shots.

Riv · 11-03-2012, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by CobusBasson

I keep looking at the pictures of other posters on this forum and I am amazed at the sharpness that some of you guys are getting, I still seem to be struggling with it. Unless of course you sharpen up your images through post processing? I find that when I leave the Q on auto iso, it very quickly bumps up the ISO, even in daylight in slightly overcast conditions it starts increasing iso. Furthermore my images are quite soft, maybe I'm spending too much time staring at 100% blown up images. Below is an example, I took a picture of the same building in a park, one with my Nikon D40 with 35mm prime, the other with the Q. The Nikon stayed at its base iso of 200, 1/40th of a second shutter speed at f8. The Pentax was also on Av, set to f8, it bumped up the iso to 320 and shutter speed was 1/60th. When I compare the Nikon and the D40, under good light conditions I don't see much difference, except for the slight softness in the Q images that is there 90% of the time. However as soon as the light deteriorates the slightest bit, I lose sharpness.

I do unless I state otherwise. Unless your posting images as a lens/sensor test I don't see the harm in it. Post processing is part of the process, and especially in the Q's case I think the ability to get a good final image (without a lot of fuss) is more important than untouched images straight out of the camera. The Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping, but it does do very well in real life usage in prints up to 16x20 I'm told(haven't had the chance to try it myself yet).

I'm just expressing my opinion, don't think I'm slamming you or anything

henkvanzuylen · 11-03-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Zorglub

Exactly my thoughts!

Wow...that fire in the sky shot is great!!!

Henk

CobusBasson · 11-03-2012, 11:14 AM

@Riv. Thanks for the comments and don't worry, I don't see it as slamming me at all. I agree with you that the Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping so I am stopping it now, in the beginning I tried to check a lot of detail to judge the quality of the images compared to my Nikon, but I am now starting to appreciate the Q for what it is and using it for its strong points. I enjoy it immensely and I have it with me all of the time. The only thing is that I don't have a lot of free time to spend on post processing, but I have started playing around with Lightroom 4 and Paintshop Pro X4 with the Nik effects plugin, I will spend a bit of time enhancing my best images and dump the rest in the souvenir bin.

henkvanzuylen · 11-04-2012, 02:47 AM - **1 Like**

Some shots I've made this morning.
It's a old railroadbridge over a smaal swamp.

1 prime 01

2 fisheye (PP in B&W)

3 fisheye trail to the bridge

4 fisheye just a shot near the parkingplace

Henk

grillo · 11-04-2012, 03:52 AM

I love your first photo, the old railroad bridge with the prime...

NickLarsson · 11-04-2012, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by henkvanzuylen

Some shots I've made this morning.
It's a old railroadbridge over a smaal swamp.

1 prime 01

2 fisheye (PP in B&W)

3 fisheye trail to the bridge

4 fisheye just a shot near the parkingplace

Henk

Nice shots, I like #1 and #3

henkvanzuylen · 11-04-2012, 04:44 AM

Thanks guys!

ndjedinak · 11-04-2012, 05:57 AM

Originally posted by CobusBasson

@Riv. Thanks for the comments and don't worry, I don't see it as slamming me at all. I agree with you that the Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping so I am stopping it now, in the beginning I tried to check a lot of detail to judge the quality of the images compared to my Nikon, but I am now starting to appreciate the Q for what it is and using it for its strong points. I enjoy it immensely and I have it with me all of the time. The only thing is that I don't have a lot of free time to spend on post processing, but I have started playing around with Lightroom 4 and Paintshop Pro X4 with the Nik effects plugin, I will spend a bit of time enhancing my best images and dump the rest in the souvenir bin.

Before you stop pixel peeping and focus on photography with the Q, make certain you optimize the Q as described above--it WILL produce images equal to your D40 in many cases.

In any case, I agree with the sentiment. Pixel peeping is a disease I sometimes am afflicted with myself, and my photography always suffers!

Shawn67 · 11-04-2012, 09:10 AM - **2 Likes**

Playing around with light while sitting in a parking lot waiting....

Shawn

ndjedinak · 11-04-2012, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Shawn67

Playing around with light while sitting in a parking lot waiting....

Shawn

Sweet--I love using that flare pattern, also!

VisualDarkness · 11-04-2012, 06:28 PM

Originally posted by Shawn67

Playing around with light while sitting in a parking lot waiting....

Shawn

That's a cool one! I got a similar when shooting in a children playground (how brutal did that sound?) the other day.

**dadipentak** · 11-04-2012, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

That's a cool one!

Very!

saladin · 11-05-2012, 04:48 AM - **1 Like**

NickLarsson · 11-05-2012, 09:42 AM

Nice shots @Shawn67 and @saladin !

This week-end I've played a bit with the bold monochrome preset at night, you can get some nice "film noir" look with it

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11-03-2012, 08:54 AM	#631
ndjedinak Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 186	Originally posted by NickLarsson Thanks Nate! Well, for traveling in another country I prefer taking the K-r or the K-01 with 2 or 3 primes because I favor IQ, but for street shooting the Q is really great, people notice you far less and you can bring this little thing with you everyday After I converted to digital with the original d-rebel, I was an IQ freak. Digital just didn't match film at that point, especially in dynamic range, and I worked very hard to get the best IQ possible from my digital gear. Over time, though, this wore on me. Last fall I took one of my old Leicas and 2 simple lenses (28 and 50s from Zeiss, I didn't chance taking my Leica glass) to China. I mostly shot tri-x, although I mixed in color now and again. I really enjoyed the minimalist experience: //www.flickr.com/photos/ndjedinak/sets/72157628141616732 Tri-x isn't very high resolution, and has fairly large grain in 35mm (120 is a different story). I find the Q roughly equal to one of my old Barack Leicas shot on tri-x with period screwmount lenses. That's pretty darn good. Thus, I conclude I could have taken the Q with me to china (if pentax had a nice 28mm!!), and the shots would have been roughly comparable. I just visited Hawaii, and took my x-pro 1. IQ is certainly better than the Q side by side, I find the x-pro approaches what I can get out of medium format (with a flatbed scanner, at least). I was surprised after printing a Q and X-Pro shot at 16x20 how well the Q stacks up. Since that time, I've started to probe more of the Q's limits--certainly, they are lower than a modern DSLR or even 35mm loaded with good film. But they're close enough, and used optimally, I've concluded it's good enough for me! I'm likely leaving the x-pro at home for my trip to Europe this winter. I want to see what I can get out of the Q. And I'm sure ill enjoy the experience! Anyway, just some rambling thoughts, thanks for sharing your shots.

11-03-2012, 09:17 AM	#632
Riv Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Michigan Photos: Albums Posts: 142	Originally posted by CobusBasson I keep looking at the pictures of other posters on this forum and I am amazed at the sharpness that some of you guys are getting, I still seem to be struggling with it. Unless of course you sharpen up your images through post processing? I find that when I leave the Q on auto iso, it very quickly bumps up the ISO, even in daylight in slightly overcast conditions it starts increasing iso. Furthermore my images are quite soft, maybe I'm spending too much time staring at 100% blown up images. Below is an example, I took a picture of the same building in a park, one with my Nikon D40 with 35mm prime, the other with the Q. The Nikon stayed at its base iso of 200, 1/40th of a second shutter speed at f8. The Pentax was also on Av, set to f8, it bumped up the iso to 320 and shutter speed was 1/60th. When I compare the Nikon and the D40, under good light conditions I don't see much difference, except for the slight softness in the Q images that is there 90% of the time. However as soon as the light deteriorates the slightest bit, I lose sharpness. I do unless I state otherwise. Unless your posting images as a lens/sensor test I don't see the harm in it. Post processing is part of the process, and especially in the Q's case I think the ability to get a good final image (without a lot of fuss) is more important than untouched images straight out of the camera. The Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping, but it does do very well in real life usage in prints up to 16x20 I'm told(haven't had the chance to try it myself yet). I'm just expressing my opinion, don't think I'm slamming you or anything

11-03-2012, 10:34 AM	#633
henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 461	Originally posted by Zorglub Exactly my thoughts! Wow...that fire in the sky shot is great!!! Henk

11-03-2012, 11:14 AM	#634
CobusBasson Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Paris, France Posts: 31	@Riv. Thanks for the comments and don't worry, I don't see it as slamming me at all. I agree with you that the Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping so I am stopping it now, in the beginning I tried to check a lot of detail to judge the quality of the images compared to my Nikon, but I am now starting to appreciate the Q for what it is and using it for its strong points. I enjoy it immensely and I have it with me all of the time. The only thing is that I don't have a lot of free time to spend on post processing, but I have started playing around with Lightroom 4 and Paintshop Pro X4 with the Nik effects plugin, I will spend a bit of time enhancing my best images and dump the rest in the souvenir bin.

11-04-2012, 02:47 AM - 1 Like	#635
henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 461	Some shots I've made this morning. It's a old railroadbridge over a smaal swamp. 1 prime 01 2 fisheye (PP in B&W) 3 fisheye trail to the bridge 4 fisheye just a shot near the parkingplace Henk

11-04-2012, 03:52 AM	#636
grillo Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 13	I love your first photo, the old railroad bridge with the prime...

11-04-2012, 03:54 AM	#637
NickLarsson Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,390	Originally posted by henkvanzuylen Some shots I've made this morning. It's a old railroadbridge over a smaal swamp. 1 prime 01 2 fisheye (PP in B&W) 3 fisheye trail to the bridge 4 fisheye just a shot near the parkingplace Henk Nice shots, I like #1 and #3

11-04-2012, 04:44 AM	#638
henkvanzuylen Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Netherlands, 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 461	Thanks guys!

11-04-2012, 05:57 AM	#639
ndjedinak Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 186	Originally posted by CobusBasson @Riv. Thanks for the comments and don't worry, I don't see it as slamming me at all. I agree with you that the Q doesn't hold up well to pixel peeping so I am stopping it now, in the beginning I tried to check a lot of detail to judge the quality of the images compared to my Nikon, but I am now starting to appreciate the Q for what it is and using it for its strong points. I enjoy it immensely and I have it with me all of the time. The only thing is that I don't have a lot of free time to spend on post processing, but I have started playing around with Lightroom 4 and Paintshop Pro X4 with the Nik effects plugin, I will spend a bit of time enhancing my best images and dump the rest in the souvenir bin. Before you stop pixel peeping and focus on photography with the Q, make certain you optimize the Q as described above--it WILL produce images equal to your D40 in many cases. In any case, I agree with the sentiment. Pixel peeping is a disease I sometimes am afflicted with myself, and my photography always suffers!

11-04-2012, 06:01 PM	#641
ndjedinak Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 186	Originally posted by Shawn67 Playing around with light while sitting in a parking lot waiting.... Shawn Sweet--I love using that flare pattern, also!

11-04-2012, 06:28 PM	#642
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by Shawn67 Playing around with light while sitting in a parking lot waiting.... Shawn That's a cool one! I got a similar when shooting in a children playground (how brutal did that sound?) the other day.

11-04-2012, 06:32 PM	#643
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by VisualDarkness That's a cool one! Very!

11-05-2012, 09:42 AM	#645
NickLarsson Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,390	Nice shots @Shawn67 and @saladin ! This week-end I've played a bit with the bold monochrome preset at night, you can get some nice "film noir" look with it