The "reach" of the Q - images

**barondla** · 11-17-2013, 06:44 PM

Knockout image baro-nite. Great detail.
thanks
barondla

hnikesch · 11-18-2013, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by baro-nite

Nice detail and the soft light is perfect on that white plumage.

I think this is a Calliope Hummingbird (female). I've asked for an ID in the birding group; anyone here have an opinion?

DA* 300 on original Q; moderate crop.

Very nice capture, great detail, I have yet to get a hummer shot

mamethot · 11-29-2013, 03:39 PM

IQ not optimal (old Sigma 70-300 APO) but I like the action...

Hairy Woodpecker defending his lunch

mamethot · 11-29-2013, 03:43 PM - **1 Like**

Tamron Macro 90 2.8

Having to rely on lenses with a manual aperture setting until my new adapter comes in...

**crewl1** · 12-04-2013, 03:25 PM

I like shooting birds with a telephoto, so I like shooting with the DA*300 on my Q7.
It is generally a very relaxing activity for me, because it takes a certain amount of patience and attention to detail.
I tend to hike into some out of the way spot of our birding hangouts, set up the tripod and just watch and wait for a bird to appear.
Then I have to find it in the viewfinder, focus the lens, then press the shutter and wait for the 2 sec delay to finally get the shot.
Sometimes I get lucky and catch a nice one.
Sometimes I don't get anything worth keeping.

I guess it might be like fishing to some folks.

There are other times when I think: "this whole setup is just too cumbersome.
I have a BIgma, so lets just throw that on the K-5 and wander around and see what we can shoot."
It is just not as satisfying though, for some reason I always crave the longer reach and slower pace of the Q7 DA*300 combo.

This afternoon a Kestrel landed in a tall pine on my street, so I quickly ran in and grabbed the Bigma on the K-5.
I pointed it and rattled off dozens of shots before the bird even noticed me.

Since it was still sitting there I decided to try to get a shot hand held with the Q7 and DA*300.
Shooting this setup handheld for me is not easy, so I was only able to get a couple of shots off before the kestrel flew away.

Comparing the two, shots, when cropped to match size, there isn't much difference, but there is just something about the Q7/DA*300 combo that makes the picture more attractive to me.

Maybe if I had the prime Sigma 500 4.5 I would feel differently, but I'm pretty sure that will never happen.

These aren't great but here are the native shots followed by the crops. What do you think?
K-5/Bigma

Q7/DA*300

K-5 crop

Q7 crop

**DDoram** · 12-04-2013, 03:37 PM

The Q7/DA*300 combo looks great. I just got the Q7 so will try some birding pictures with the DA*300. I really like the Q7 IQ compared to the classic Q.

Dale

**crewl1** · 12-04-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by DDoram

The Q7/DA*300 combo looks great. I just got the Q7 so will try some birding pictures with the DA*300. I really like the Q7 IQ compared to the classic Q.

Dale

Agreed, the Q7 IQ is much better than the classic.

hnikesch · 12-04-2013, 04:23 PM

Very nice shot Larry, maybe if I sell my spare 06 and spare Q I too can get a Q7. Do you find the loss of crop factor from the orig Q offsets the larger sensor on the Q7, or saying it differently if you crop the Q7 shot to the same field of view of the orig. Q (using the same lens) what is the impact on IQ comparing the 2 cameras

VisualDarkness · 12-04-2013, 04:30 PM

The K-5 got that high crop fuzziness look to it, that the Q7 one lacks.

**crewl1** · 12-04-2013, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by hnikesch

Very nice shot Larry, maybe if I sell my spare 06 and spare Q I too can get a Q7. Do you find the loss of crop factor from the orig Q offsets the larger sensor on the Q7, or saying it differently if you crop the Q7 shot to the same field of view of the orig. Q (using the same lens) what is the impact on IQ comparing the 2 cameras

The better performance, IQ and the fact it is less demanding of a lens more than makes up for the slight crop factor change.
The only thing making me keep my classic is the magnesium body.
Most everything else is better on the Q7.

Next time I go shooting I will make a point to bring the two bodies and compare them.

**crewl1** · 12-04-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

The K-5 got that high crop fuzziness look to it, that the Q7 one lacks.

Agreed. I also think maybe the warmer color rendering of the DA*300 is swaying me, but definitely there is less crop artifacts going on with the Q7.

**arnold** · 12-04-2013, 05:21 PM

An informative comparison. Both look good to me.

6BQ5 · 12-04-2013, 09:08 PM

So I'm sensing a trend in the pictures here...

Birds!

Anyone do anything spying from rooftops or deep sky astronomy? Extreme zoom-ins of small things?

**crewl1** · 12-04-2013, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by 6BQ5

So I'm sensing a trend in the pictures here...

Birds!

Anyone do anything spying from rooftops or deep sky astronomy? Extreme zoom-ins of small things?

I've done some macro with the Q and DFA100, but no astronomy. That would be real reach !

The Q is cool for macro videos.

Youtu.be

steve1307 · 12-05-2013, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by 6BQ5

So I'm sensing a trend in the pictures here...

Birds!

Anyone do anything spying from rooftops or deep sky astronomy? Extreme zoom-ins of small things?

There is this Q-Astro thread established after this reach of the Q thread
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/212387-astro-q-club.html

and a Q-macro club thread
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/216274-maqro-qlub.html

and a couple of dozen other Q macro related
Advanced search, "macro", thread title only, Pentax Q forum

As for the "spying from rooftops" idea, I don't think there is a Q-pervert thread

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11-17-2013, 06:44 PM	#886
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,714 Original Poster	Knockout image baro-nite. Great detail. thanks barondla

11-18-2013, 08:46 AM	#887
hnikesch Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,316	Originally posted by baro-nite Nice detail and the soft light is perfect on that white plumage. I think this is a Calliope Hummingbird (female). I've asked for an ID in the birding group; anyone here have an opinion? DA* 300 on original Q; moderate crop. Very nice capture, great detail, I have yet to get a hummer shot

11-29-2013, 03:39 PM	#888
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	IQ not optimal (old Sigma 70-300 APO) but I like the action... Hairy Woodpecker defending his lunch

11-29-2013, 03:43 PM - 1 Like	#889
mamethot Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Greater Montreal Area Posts: 736	Tamron Macro 90 2.8 Having to rely on lenses with a manual aperture setting until my new adapter comes in...

12-04-2013, 03:25 PM	#890
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	I like shooting birds with a telephoto, so I like shooting with the DA300 on my Q7. It is generally a very relaxing activity for me, because it takes a certain amount of patience and attention to detail. I tend to hike into some out of the way spot of our birding hangouts, set up the tripod and just watch and wait for a bird to appear. Then I have to find it in the viewfinder, focus the lens, then press the shutter and wait for the 2 sec delay to finally get the shot. Sometimes I get lucky and catch a nice one. Sometimes I don't get anything worth keeping. I guess it might be like fishing to some folks. There are other times when I think: "this whole setup is just too cumbersome. I have a BIgma, so lets just throw that on the K-5 and wander around and see what we can shoot." It is just not as satisfying though, for some reason I always crave the longer reach and slower pace of the Q7 DA300 combo. This afternoon a Kestrel landed in a tall pine on my street, so I quickly ran in and grabbed the Bigma on the K-5. I pointed it and rattled off dozens of shots before the bird even noticed me. Since it was still sitting there I decided to try to get a shot hand held with the Q7 and DA300. Shooting this setup handheld for me is not easy, so I was only able to get a couple of shots off before the kestrel flew away. Comparing the two, shots, when cropped to match size, there isn't much difference, but there is just something about the Q7/DA300 combo that makes the picture more attractive to me. Maybe if I had the prime Sigma 500 4.5 I would feel differently, but I'm pretty sure that will never happen. These aren't great but here are the native shots followed by the crops. What do you think? K-5/Bigma Q7/DA*300 K-5 crop Q7 crop

12-04-2013, 03:37 PM	#891
DDoram Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Canada Posts: 632	The Q7/DA300 combo looks great. I just got the Q7 so will try some birding pictures with the DA300. I really like the Q7 IQ compared to the classic Q. Dale

12-04-2013, 03:46 PM	#892
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by DDoram The Q7/DA300 combo looks great. I just got the Q7 so will try some birding pictures with the DA300. I really like the Q7 IQ compared to the classic Q. Dale Agreed, the Q7 IQ is much better than the classic.

12-04-2013, 04:23 PM	#893
hnikesch Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,316	Very nice shot Larry, maybe if I sell my spare 06 and spare Q I too can get a Q7. Do you find the loss of crop factor from the orig Q offsets the larger sensor on the Q7, or saying it differently if you crop the Q7 shot to the same field of view of the orig. Q (using the same lens) what is the impact on IQ comparing the 2 cameras

12-04-2013, 04:30 PM	#894
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	The K-5 got that high crop fuzziness look to it, that the Q7 one lacks.

12-04-2013, 04:31 PM	#895
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by hnikesch Very nice shot Larry, maybe if I sell my spare 06 and spare Q I too can get a Q7. Do you find the loss of crop factor from the orig Q offsets the larger sensor on the Q7, or saying it differently if you crop the Q7 shot to the same field of view of the orig. Q (using the same lens) what is the impact on IQ comparing the 2 cameras The better performance, IQ and the fact it is less demanding of a lens more than makes up for the slight crop factor change. The only thing making me keep my classic is the magnesium body. Most everything else is better on the Q7. Next time I go shooting I will make a point to bring the two bodies and compare them.

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12-04-2013, 04:36 PM	#896
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by VisualDarkness The K-5 got that high crop fuzziness look to it, that the Q7 one lacks. Agreed. I also think maybe the warmer color rendering of the DA*300 is swaying me, but definitely there is less crop artifacts going on with the Q7.

12-04-2013, 05:21 PM	#897
arnold Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,294	An informative comparison. Both look good to me.

12-04-2013, 09:08 PM	#898
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	So I'm sensing a trend in the pictures here... Birds! Anyone do anything spying from rooftops or deep sky astronomy? Extreme zoom-ins of small things?

12-05-2013, 07:42 PM	#900
steve1307 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Sydney Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,130	Originally posted by 6BQ5 So I'm sensing a trend in the pictures here... Birds! Anyone do anything spying from rooftops or deep sky astronomy? Extreme zoom-ins of small things? There is this Q-Astro thread established after this reach of the Q thread https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/212387-astro-q-club.html and a Q-macro club thread https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/216274-maqro-qlub.html and a couple of dozen other Q macro related Advanced search, "macro", thread title only, Pentax Q forum As for the "spying from rooftops" idea, I don't think there is a Q-pervert thread