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Verglace · 02-05-2012, 01:24 AM

Probably not selling enough of them internationally forcing them to cut prices heavily

Photong · 02-05-2012, 05:43 AM - **1 Like**

The Q is excellent for what it is (but I curse its battery life). I actually find its limitations to be inspiring. The large depth of field forces you to use the whole frame, which leads to richer photographs. I love my K-7 but often the temptation is to let the gear do the interesting bits. The Q removes the shallow DOF and high IQ crutches, leaving quality to talent, which often leads to the "poor" output people like to complain about with smaller cameras.

**EricBrown** · 02-05-2012, 05:49 AM

Originally posted by Clicker

maybe i didn't look hard enough but i used the camera finder and nothing turned up

Just search under the group section on Flickr for Pentax Q. Right now it has around 200 members. There are some great photos!

Flickr: Search for a group

Tonto · 02-05-2012, 06:07 AM

I think the Q will be really well in Asian countries.
The release of the K-01 gives Pentax a unique 1-2 shot at the mirrorless market. The smallest for the pocket-able enthusiast camera (arguably the only one) and the larger one with the largest array of lenses available for the consumer who wants PQ above all.
The Q does need a Macro to get the best out of it though and make it truely "interesting"

**EricBrown** · 02-05-2012, 06:18 AM - **3 Likes**

First, I have to say I like the design of the K-01, will I get one...hard to say since I have the K-5 with 40mm lens. I admire Pentax for not pandering to what other camera makers offer. Pentax has a long history of innovation and being different and others have copied. I feel both cameras have thier market and will only help the overall brand.

I love shooting with my Q and take it with me anywhere I go. I can't always do that with my K-5 and sometimes I take both. I have been a lot more street and urban exploring photography and I did not have the Q with me, I would have missed the shot. I do have an iPhone, but count that as a real camera, hate hope phones handle as cameras. I am part part of a great meet up group for urban exploring and evertime I take out the Q everyones asks what kind of camera is that, I tell them and all seem to love for what is it. Once they hold it and play with it they see the value and reason for...small, dslr like, take anywhere camera that is pure fun. I tell them the price and think it is worth it for what it offers. This a group that uses all camera brands and both pro and novice. Several are very interested now so they can have a great travel camera.

I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday.

I hope both sytems do well and Pentax continues to offer an alternative choice in the industry.

Wheatfield · 02-05-2012, 08:26 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by EricBrown

I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday.

+1. The Q is pretty much unique in the marketplace, which is going to polarize people. The ongoing litany of the sensor is too small is ignorance from people who have never seen a picture taken by the thing. The sensor size is not adversely affecting this camera. I get the feeling that people (including the OP) want to see this camera as a failure because it doesn't adhere to their view of what a compact camera should be (cheap plastic junk with a 10X zoom).
What the Q isn't is another me too product lost in a sea of other me too products. This means that it is going to relate to a smaller number of users, simply because it isn't dedicated to the masses of plebians who just want another me too product that allows them to fit in with the herd mentality.

Sinister · 02-05-2012, 09:15 AM

I have seen it the first time yesterday in reality and fell in love. I'll get one, as soon its price drops a bit

**barondla** · 02-05-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by EricBrown

I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday.

I hope both sytems do well and Pentax continues to offer an alternative choice in the industry.

+1, amen! I have over 15 digital cameras ( 10 with interchangeable lenses ). If I could only have two it would be the Q and the K-7. The Q is that useful and fun. Take anywhere portable camera and digital super teleconverter, long lens monster that even does great video. I am also considering adding the K-01 to my collection.
thanks
barondla

ihasa · 02-08-2012, 03:40 AM

I wonder if Frogfish heard back from the camera retailer he was going to talk to?

I saw him post on another forum that the Q had outsold the Fuji X100 by a factor of 3:1.

That's still not in the same league as Sony/Panasonic/Olympus, but it doesn't smack of failure to me!

**barondla** · 02-08-2012, 06:42 AM - **1 Like**

Don't think the Q has sold super well in the US. But none of the mirroless cameras have. US seeems to prefer entry level DSLRs over mirrorless.

The Q must be fairly popular or there wouldn't be new lenses, K-Q adapters,, and limited edition bodies being announced. For a completely new system it seems to be doing fine. Think Ricoh will give it time to grow. Their GXR can't be a sales demon,, but they have stuck with it and it has grown. Surprised at some of the photographers that have one hidden in the camera bag.

The Q points to the cameras of the future. The quality will be so good in 10-15 years that cameras this size will be what almost everyone carries. A FF camera will be as common as 8x10 film cameras are now. Photographers won't have to carry 30 lbs of equipment in their bags. We will see images that would be near impossible with Aps-c and bigger cameras.

Many laughed at 4/3 when it came out. It was too far ahead of the curve. Now look how much better they are doing. The Q is the same, only further out in the future. Exciting times.
thanks
barondla

johnmflores · 02-08-2012, 06:46 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

+1. The Q is pretty much unique in the marketplace, which is going to polarize people. The ongoing litany of the sensor is too small is ignorance from people who have never seen a picture taken by the thing. The sensor size is not adversely affecting this camera. I get the feeling that people (including the OP) want to see this camera as a failure because it doesn't adhere to their view of what a compact camera should be (cheap plastic junk with a 10X zoom).
What the Q isn't is another me too product lost in a sea of other me too products. This means that it is going to relate to a smaller number of users, simply because it isn't dedicated to the masses of plebians who just want another me too product that allows them to fit in with the herd mentality.

Originally posted by barondla

Don't think the Q has sold super well in the US. But none of the mirroless cameras have. US seeems to prefer entry level DSLRs over mirrorless.

The Q must be fairly popular or there wouldn't be new lenses, K-Q adapters,, and limited edition bodies being announced. For a completely new system it seems to be doing fine. Think Ricoh will give it time to grow. Their GXR can't be a sales demon,, but they have stuck with it and it has grown. Surprised at some of the photographers that have one hidden in the camera bag.

The Q points to the cameras of the future. The quality will be so good in 10-15 years that cameras this size will be what almost everyone carries. A FF camera will be as common as 8x10 film cameras are now. Photographers won't have to carry 30 lbs of equipment in their bags. We will see images that would be near impossible with Aps-c and bigger cameras.

Many laughed at 4/3 when it came out. It was too far ahead of the curve. Now look how much better they are doing. The Q is the same, only further out in the future. Exciting times.
thanks
barondla

Agreed and agreed. Pentax had the foresight to make it possible to have future Q models with slightly larger sensors. The ceaseless march of technology will get us to the point where they'll be able to get near K-5 performance in the Q, DOF excepted of course. How cool will that be?!

**i_trax** · 02-08-2012, 07:41 AM

Dear Adam,
could you possibly change the subject line of this thread to something more positive please.
I like and respect the Q and : "Pentax Q a Failure?"
I found rather disturbing!
kind regards
jack

aurele · 02-08-2012, 08:20 AM

the Q is now at 500€ in France, and is the 39th best seller in hybrid for Amazon. The Q is after a big series of Nex.

I have to say that i had mixed feelings about the Q, but now, if it the price can go a little lower, i would buy one for me or the family.

Frogfish · 02-11-2012, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by ihasa

wonder if Frogfish heard back from the camera retailer he was going to talk to

I saw him post on another forum that the Q had outsold the Fuji X100 by a factor of 3:1.

That's still not in the same league as Sony/Panasonic/Olympus, but it doesn't smack of failure to me!

Funny I should see this post here .. as today I went to the camera mall to pick up some bits and pieces before we pop off on holiday for a week to Hai Nan to warm these ol' bones (too bloody cold at 2 to 10C here in Shanghai for me) !

I went in and spoke to the owner of one of the Pentax shops about when she will get deliveries of the K-01 (March), 560/5.6 (don't know) and sales of the Q. This is what she said :

The Q is selling great to both young and very old (70-80 yr olds who previously used DSLRs but now just want something light and easy to pocket but with great IQ) but not so much to the in-betweenies.
Split equally between male and female buyers.
The males almost all buy it in black, the females almost all buy it in white.
Price is US$775 with two lenses (she told me which ones but I've forgotten which).

She then showed me dozens of shots on her laptop taken with the Q - pretty impressive I have to say, very sharp and good colour. She seemed really pleased with her sales of the Q and very enthusiastic over it's performance (this wasn't a song and dance for me as I've bought multiple lenses, a K7 and two K5's from her, so she knows very well which segment of the market I fall in).

Anyway I'd say the Q is selling really really well in Asia if her shop is anything to go by.

**i_trax** · 02-12-2012, 09:01 AM

the weakest point is battery, I have ordered 2 extra and i will be taking Q with 01+02 to Europe with me, that's it , just the Q.

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02-05-2012, 01:24 AM	#31
Verglace Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 468	Probably not selling enough of them internationally forcing them to cut prices heavily

02-05-2012, 05:43 AM - 1 Like	#32
Photong Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Tainan Photos: Albums Posts: 47	The Q is excellent for what it is (but I curse its battery life). I actually find its limitations to be inspiring. The large depth of field forces you to use the whole frame, which leads to richer photographs. I love my K-7 but often the temptation is to let the gear do the interesting bits. The Q removes the shallow DOF and high IQ crutches, leaving quality to talent, which often leads to the "poor" output people like to complain about with smaller cameras.

02-05-2012, 05:49 AM	#33
EricBrown Site Supporter Join Date: May 2011 Location: Arlington, VA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,060	Originally posted by Clicker maybe i didn't look hard enough but i used the camera finder and nothing turned up Just search under the group section on Flickr for Pentax Q. Right now it has around 200 members. There are some great photos! Flickr: Search for a group

02-05-2012, 06:07 AM	#34
Tonto Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Wellington Posts: 969	I think the Q will be really well in Asian countries. The release of the K-01 gives Pentax a unique 1-2 shot at the mirrorless market. The smallest for the pocket-able enthusiast camera (arguably the only one) and the larger one with the largest array of lenses available for the consumer who wants PQ above all. The Q does need a Macro to get the best out of it though and make it truely "interesting"

02-05-2012, 06:18 AM - 3 Likes	#35
EricBrown Site Supporter Join Date: May 2011 Location: Arlington, VA USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,060	First, I have to say I like the design of the K-01, will I get one...hard to say since I have the K-5 with 40mm lens. I admire Pentax for not pandering to what other camera makers offer. Pentax has a long history of innovation and being different and others have copied. I feel both cameras have thier market and will only help the overall brand. I love shooting with my Q and take it with me anywhere I go. I can't always do that with my K-5 and sometimes I take both. I have been a lot more street and urban exploring photography and I did not have the Q with me, I would have missed the shot. I do have an iPhone, but count that as a real camera, hate hope phones handle as cameras. I am part part of a great meet up group for urban exploring and evertime I take out the Q everyones asks what kind of camera is that, I tell them and all seem to love for what is it. Once they hold it and play with it they see the value and reason for...small, dslr like, take anywhere camera that is pure fun. I tell them the price and think it is worth it for what it offers. This a group that uses all camera brands and both pro and novice. Several are very interested now so they can have a great travel camera. I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday. I hope both sytems do well and Pentax continues to offer an alternative choice in the industry.

02-05-2012, 08:26 AM - 1 Like	#36
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by EricBrown I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday. +1. The Q is pretty much unique in the marketplace, which is going to polarize people. The ongoing litany of the sensor is too small is ignorance from people who have never seen a picture taken by the thing. The sensor size is not adversely affecting this camera. I get the feeling that people (including the OP) want to see this camera as a failure because it doesn't adhere to their view of what a compact camera should be (cheap plastic junk with a 10X zoom). What the Q isn't is another me too product lost in a sea of other me too products. This means that it is going to relate to a smaller number of users, simply because it isn't dedicated to the masses of plebians who just want another me too product that allows them to fit in with the herd mentality.

02-05-2012, 09:15 AM	#37
Sinister Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Berlin Posts: 1,045	I have seen it the first time yesterday in reality and fell in love. I'll get one, as soon its price drops a bit

02-05-2012, 12:56 PM	#38
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,717	Originally posted by EricBrown I for one is sick and tired of the Q bashers on here and knock people for their choice of gear. The point of photography is to take great photos and have fun. The Q does both. If you pick anything apart to death you will always find fault. Is the Q perfect or for everyone, no. But, it is a solid, innovative, quality, fun and take anywhere camera. I have no regrets and love using it everyday. I hope both sytems do well and Pentax continues to offer an alternative choice in the industry. +1, amen! I have over 15 digital cameras ( 10 with interchangeable lenses ). If I could only have two it would be the Q and the K-7. The Q is that useful and fun. Take anywhere portable camera and digital super teleconverter, long lens monster that even does great video. I am also considering adding the K-01 to my collection. thanks barondla

02-08-2012, 03:40 AM	#39
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	I wonder if Frogfish heard back from the camera retailer he was going to talk to? I saw him post on another forum that the Q had outsold the Fuji X100 by a factor of 3:1. That's still not in the same league as Sony/Panasonic/Olympus, but it doesn't smack of failure to me!

02-08-2012, 06:42 AM - 1 Like	#40
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,717	Don't think the Q has sold super well in the US. But none of the mirroless cameras have. US seeems to prefer entry level DSLRs over mirrorless. The Q must be fairly popular or there wouldn't be new lenses, K-Q adapters,, and limited edition bodies being announced. For a completely new system it seems to be doing fine. Think Ricoh will give it time to grow. Their GXR can't be a sales demon,, but they have stuck with it and it has grown. Surprised at some of the photographers that have one hidden in the camera bag. The Q points to the cameras of the future. The quality will be so good in 10-15 years that cameras this size will be what almost everyone carries. A FF camera will be as common as 8x10 film cameras are now. Photographers won't have to carry 30 lbs of equipment in their bags. We will see images that would be near impossible with Aps-c and bigger cameras. Many laughed at 4/3 when it came out. It was too far ahead of the curve. Now look how much better they are doing. The Q is the same, only further out in the future. Exciting times. thanks barondla

02-08-2012, 06:46 AM	#41
johnmflores Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somerville, NJ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,361	Originally posted by Wheatfield +1. The Q is pretty much unique in the marketplace, which is going to polarize people. The ongoing litany of the sensor is too small is ignorance from people who have never seen a picture taken by the thing. The sensor size is not adversely affecting this camera. I get the feeling that people (including the OP) want to see this camera as a failure because it doesn't adhere to their view of what a compact camera should be (cheap plastic junk with a 10X zoom). What the Q isn't is another me too product lost in a sea of other me too products. This means that it is going to relate to a smaller number of users, simply because it isn't dedicated to the masses of plebians who just want another me too product that allows them to fit in with the herd mentality. Originally posted by barondla Don't think the Q has sold super well in the US. But none of the mirroless cameras have. US seeems to prefer entry level DSLRs over mirrorless. The Q must be fairly popular or there wouldn't be new lenses, K-Q adapters,, and limited edition bodies being announced. For a completely new system it seems to be doing fine. Think Ricoh will give it time to grow. Their GXR can't be a sales demon,, but they have stuck with it and it has grown. Surprised at some of the photographers that have one hidden in the camera bag. The Q points to the cameras of the future. The quality will be so good in 10-15 years that cameras this size will be what almost everyone carries. A FF camera will be as common as 8x10 film cameras are now. Photographers won't have to carry 30 lbs of equipment in their bags. We will see images that would be near impossible with Aps-c and bigger cameras. Many laughed at 4/3 when it came out. It was too far ahead of the curve. Now look how much better they are doing. The Q is the same, only further out in the future. Exciting times. thanks barondla Agreed and agreed. Pentax had the foresight to make it possible to have future Q models with slightly larger sensors. The ceaseless march of technology will get us to the point where they'll be able to get near K-5 performance in the Q, DOF excepted of course. How cool will that be?!

02-08-2012, 07:41 AM	#42
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	Dear Adam, could you possibly change the subject line of this thread to something more positive please. I like and respect the Q and : "Pentax Q a Failure?" I found rather disturbing! kind regards jack

02-08-2012, 08:20 AM	#43
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	the Q is now at 500€ in France, and is the 39th best seller in hybrid for Amazon. The Q is after a big series of Nex. I have to say that i had mixed feelings about the Q, but now, if it the price can go a little lower, i would buy one for me or the family.

02-11-2012, 03:29 AM	#44
Frogfish Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shanghai Posts: 4,490	Originally posted by ihasa wonder if Frogfish heard back from the camera retailer he was going to talk to I saw him post on another forum that the Q had outsold the Fuji X100 by a factor of 3:1. That's still not in the same league as Sony/Panasonic/Olympus, but it doesn't smack of failure to me! Funny I should see this post here .. as today I went to the camera mall to pick up some bits and pieces before we pop off on holiday for a week to Hai Nan to warm these ol' bones (too bloody cold at 2 to 10C here in Shanghai for me) ! I went in and spoke to the owner of one of the Pentax shops about when she will get deliveries of the K-01 (March), 560/5.6 (don't know) and sales of the Q. This is what she said : The Q is selling great to both young and very old (70-80 yr olds who previously used DSLRs but now just want something light and easy to pocket but with great IQ) but not so much to the in-betweenies. Split equally between male and female buyers. The males almost all buy it in black, the females almost all buy it in white. Price is US$775 with two lenses (she told me which ones but I've forgotten which). She then showed me dozens of shots on her laptop taken with the Q - pretty impressive I have to say, very sharp and good colour. She seemed really pleased with her sales of the Q and very enthusiastic over it's performance (this wasn't a song and dance for me as I've bought multiple lenses, a K7 and two K5's from her, so she knows very well which segment of the market I fall in). Anyway I'd say the Q is selling really really well in Asia if her shop is anything to go by.

02-12-2012, 09:01 AM	#45
i_trax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Perth Western Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,621	the weakest point is battery, I have ordered 2 extra and i will be taking Q with 01+02 to Europe with me, that's it , just the Q.