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01-17-2014, 04:04 AM   #601
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QuoteOriginally posted by lytrytyr Quote
The 90mm and 180mm Voigtlaender Apo-Lanthars.

If you lay off the coffee,
you can freely use the 90mm hand-held,
and the 180mm can be hand-held if you get some support.
this is getting expensive
Just mounted the SP90/2.5 as MF all metal approximation

01-17-2014, 06:49 AM   #602
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QuoteOriginally posted by Transit Quote
this is getting expensive
The (original) Q sensor is merciless.
It has the densest packed pixels your lenses are ever likely to see.

That said, I think you can still get the 90mm Apo-Lanthar in K-mount
for less than USD 600 from Hong Kong.
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So Guys...
I have read every skerrick of this great thread
viewed all the images

I still remain as a new Q owner, a little confused

What would you say after living with all these adapted lens efforts
is the one or two lenses you regularly use and appreciate ?

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For me the SMC-M 135 f3.5 and SMC-F 80-200 are great, both are often avail. on Ebay for under $50. The 80-200 zoom is light and has a internal zoom and at the 135 range as good as my SMC-M 135 but has the advantage of the zoom range
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Index is updated with latest contributions.
Going forward please specify if you are using a Q/Q10 or Q7 as well.
Thanks!

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M42 Takumars – SMC 50mm F1.4, Super-Tak 55mm F1.8, S-Tak 55mm F2.0, MacroTak 50 F4

50mm F4.0 M42 ‘Normal’ Takumars – SMC 50mm F1.4, Super-Tak 55mm F1.8, Super-Tak 55mm F2.0, Macro-Tak

Posted per request of OP:

Lenses were compared on a Q10 with Fotodiox M42 V1 ringless adapter. Full-open and stopped down a bit. 2 shots at each setting to offset being hand-held and focus errors. Results below. Suggest looking at the yellow sticker, gunnel, background, chain and lock.

My conclusions:
1. For all except the Macro-Tak, much better results on contrast, PF/CA, and sharpness will be had by stopping down a bit. F4.0 – F5.6. Stop down, and any one of the three seems about the same. Might as well go for a good copy of the 55mm F2.0 – the least expensive. ($30 or so…)
2. The 50mm F4.0 Macro-Tak is best wide-open. It also has the best contrast, color saturation, and least PF/CA . If you can live with F4.0 and could only have one of the four lenses – this is it.
3. The SMC 50mm F1.4 gets better a bit earlier – F2.8 perhaps. At three times the cost of the F2.0, you get additional low-light capability and slightly better contrast with SMC.
4. Force the ISO as low as you can, still while stopping down. Multiple shots, tripod.

Your interpretations may differ. If they are, I would like to know what they are, and what you would recommend.

Note: Per Attachment instructions, 4000x3000 images were resized to 1024x768, making it a bit harder to see the differences. Sorry..

Max of 10 files here. Names dropped. They are, in order:
mt50_F4.0_F4.0(2)
mt50_F4.0_F4.0
mt50_F4.0_F5.6(2)
mt50_F4.0_F5.6
smct50_F1.4_F1.4(2)
smct50_F1.4_F1.4
smct50_F1.4_F2.8(2)
smct50_F1.4_F2.8
smct50_F1.4_F5.6(2)
smct50_F1.4_F5.6

st55_F1.8 and stF2.0 will be in a subsequent post.
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Super-Takumar 55mm F1.8 and F2.0

QuoteOriginally posted by cahudson42 Quote
50mm F4.0 M42 ‘Normal’ Takumars – SMC 50mm F1.4, Super-Tak 55mm F1.8, Super-Tak 55mm F2.0, Macro-Tak

Lenses were compared on a Q10 with Fotodiox M42 V1 ringless adapter. Full-open and stopped down a bit. 2 shots at each setting to offset being hand-held and focus errors. Results below. Suggest looking at the yellow sticker, gunnel, background, chain and lock.

Note: Per Attachment instructions, 4000x3000 images were resized to 1024x768, making it a bit harder to see the differences. Sorry..

Max of 10 files here. Names dropped. They are, in order:
mt50_F4.0_F4.0(2)
mt50_F4.0_F4.0
mt50_F4.0_F5.6(2)
mt50_F4.0_F5.6
smct50_F1.4_F1.4(2)
smct50_F1.4_F1.4
smct50_F1.4_F2.8(2)
smct50_F1.4_F2.8
smct50_F1.4_F5.6(2)
smct50_F1.4_F5.6

st55_F1.8 and stF2.0 will be in a subsequent post.

This is the second part of M42 50-55 comparison. Super Takumar 55mm F1.8 and F2.0

Images in order:
st55_F1.8_F1.8(2)
st55_F1.8_F1.8
st55_F1.8_F2.8(2)
st55_F1.8_F2.8
st55_F2.0_F2.0(2)
st55_F2.0_F2.0
st55_F2.0_F2.8(2)
st55_F2.0_F2.8
st55_F2.0_F5.6(2)
st55_F2.0_F5.6(1)

Remember these two lenses are optically identical. The F2.0 has exactly the same optics as the F1.8, except there is a fixed 'stop-down ring' added to the internals of the F2.0 to limit max aperture to F2.0. (Probably an 'urban legend', but I remember many years ago hearing that F2.0s were repurposed 'flunked' F1.8s)

What I see in the images is a substantial reduction on PF/CA simply going from F1.8 (on the 1.8) to F2.0 (on the 2.0) (look at black rub-rail and cleat). The rest of the F2.0 images are certainly not any worse than those of the F1.8. This is in disagreement with the User Lens Review Ratings of these two lenses, which rate the F1.8 as the better lens. Doesn't seem that way here. Might as well get the cheaper F2.0.

Also, going to the trouble of removing the ring on the F2.0 to make it an F1.8 - isn't worth the bother, either.

Finally, if you have an F1.8, remember to always stop it down to at least the first click toward F2.8
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01-21-2014, 10:48 AM   #607
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Takumar 200mm F5.6 Preset M42

I like using this lens on my K-01. Light, and fast enough. Tried it today for the first time on Q10. I think it has promise..

Three shots - hand held. Really do need a tripod. The first is F5.6 the second at F8.0. In both cases I think I got the focus reasonably well - and result was little PF. The third shot, also F8.0 - I clearly missed the focus and PF shows around the beak.

So nail the focus (with tripod) and this might be a nice inexpensive 1120mm for the Q - seems good copies are still less than $80 or so.

But expect some PF in OOF areas...
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Tamron 90mm Macro f2.8

I'm surprised this hasn't been added yet. So I'll do it now.

I've tried two models of the Tamron 90 Macro (172E and 272E) with my Q and they both performed the same.

I got great results. Wide open was a touch soft. Stopping down to F4.5-5.6 got be the best results.

I'm using a 3rd party Fotodiox adapter without an aperture ring, so I have to use the aperture ring on the Tamron.

A tripod is a must. However, I left the ballhead loose and used it more as a monopod, left hand on the Tamron focus ring for focusing, right hand on the Q body.

I've attached two pictures. You can also see three more pictures taken with this combo here:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/172196-lets-share-shots-q-231.html#post2663386

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Pentax F* 600mm F4

Pentax F* 600mm F4

This legendary lens attached to the Pentax Q gives an effective focal length of 3300mm.

A solid tripod is a must, as is a good gimbal head. Even using those, the 2 second timer delay was not enough time for the setup to stop shaking to take a good blur-free picture. I had to use the 12 second timer.

This combo is more for novelty than anything. Still, it can produce some fun shots.

The forums will not allow me to attach photos that I have already attached elsewhere. So I will link to the post where I attached photos of the Pentax Q + Pentax F* 600mm F4. You can see pictures of the setup, plus a sample shot taken with it.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/36-sold-items/249321-sale-sold-pentax-f-f...ml#post2663198
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Pentax Q7 + Helios 44k-4

Pentax Q7 + Helios 44k-4
f/2

f/4

f/5,6

f/8

f/11

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SMC-M135/3,5 Pentax Q7

Pentax Q7 + M135/3,5
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F/4

f/5,6

f/8

f/11

f/16

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I can't believe nobody has tested an FA43 with an original K-Q adapter.


Anyone?


Thanks, much appreciated!
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QuoteOriginally posted by drypenn Quote
I can't believe nobody has tested an FA43 with an original K-Q adapter.
That is within the range of the 06 zoom.

I don't have an FA 43, but have tried a DA 40 XS,
and it's actually shorter on the adapter than the 06.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cunesk8 Quote
SMC-M135/3,5
I bought one of those expressly for use on the Q. It makes a great and impossibly tiny for it's focal length super-tele on the Q. You also gotta love the built-in hood.
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QuoteOriginally posted by GibbyTheMole Quote
I bought one of those expressly for use on the Q. It makes a great and impossibly tiny for it's focal length super-tele on the Q. You also gotta love the built-in hood.
My M 135/3.5 stays on my adapter.

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