Photos good in camera LCD but dark/dull in computer

pspentax · 04-22-2013, 03:55 PM

Hi,

I have day by day evaluating the Q and i'm finding that the photos are fantastics in camera LCD but dark/dull in computer.
Do you have the same problem???

Cheers,

Pedro

Adam · 04-22-2013, 04:12 PM

If you're shooting in raw, the preview on your computer might not reflect the actual image, or it might now have received any processing. The histogram is generally a good way to determine whether or not your exposure is kosher. If it is skewed to either side, you might be looking at over/underexposure. Post some samples if in doubt

pickone · 04-22-2013, 05:08 PM

I noticed that in my video but not with stills, seeing if you got the right focus can be tough too.

VisualDarkness · 04-22-2013, 05:22 PM

Yeah, the histogram is the key. Our eyes are too adaptable to ambient light to be trusted upon when watching a screen. Also as it has been said, RAW files needs editing.

Rob22315 · 04-23-2013, 10:21 AM

Have you calibrated your monitor? What are you using to view/process the image files?

pspentax · 04-23-2013, 01:28 PM

Hi all,

Thanks for your help.
I have the monitor calibrated and the histogram is a litle in the underexpose side in that photos. The Q LCD cheats to much ... i have K20D, K5, D7000, 7D, 5D, 5DII and in that ones the LCD image is almost like you see in computer.
Now i use the compensation almost every time around +0,7/1stop´s... do you guys use the same compensation???
One more things the Capture 1 and Lightroom are so so with the Q raw´s the Aperture do the best work.... i use almost 99% of the time the Lightroom.

Cheers,

Pedro

Rob22315 · 04-23-2013, 02:38 PM

Sounds like the camera is underexposing, what type of metering are you using? Spot, Center-weighted, Average?

pspentax · 04-23-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Rob22315

Sounds like the camera is underexposing, what type of metering are you using? Spot, Center-weighted, Average?

I almost use Average/Matrix and manual but i have tried all the metering and the sintome is the same.

Tanks

VisualDarkness · 04-23-2013, 02:53 PM

As said, use the histogram as it's a wonderful tool to preview pics!

pspentax · 04-23-2013, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

As said, use the histogram as it's a wonderful tool to preview pics!

Yes i have come to that conclusion... i have to look more times for the histogram of the Q... and 2/3 or more of the time i have to ad +0,7/1 stop´s.

Regards,
Pedro

VisualDarkness · 04-23-2013, 03:26 PM

I agree that the Q tend to underexpose, probably because the bad performance when it comes to recoverable highlights.

pspentax · 04-23-2013, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

I agree that the Q tend to underexpose, probably because the bad performance when it comes to recoverable highlights.

Yes.. i second that

Nick Siebers · 04-23-2013, 07:07 PM

Check your color space! I had this problem bad when computer and camera color space did not match. If you use sRGB I think it will eliminate this problem.

**RKKS08** · 04-23-2013, 07:21 PM

I don't know the Q, but if you set other Pentax cameras to Adobe colour space, the firmware will care for the needed corrections for the LCD display.

On your computer, graphics card/processor, drivers, profile, and your monitor must support Adobe CS, otherwise the pictures will look too dark and dull.
If you don't want to get your pictures professionally printed (for books, calendars, exhibitions, etc,), sRGB should be good enough.

Unfortunately, there is no way back, as with sRGB some colour information will be missing.

04-22-2013, 03:55 PM	#1
pspentax Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 367	Photos good in camera LCD but dark/dull in computer Hi, I have day by day evaluating the Q and i'm finding that the photos are fantastics in camera LCD but dark/dull in computer. Do you have the same problem??? Cheers, Pedro

04-22-2013, 04:12 PM	#2
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,595	If you're shooting in raw, the preview on your computer might not reflect the actual image, or it might now have received any processing. The histogram is generally a good way to determine whether or not your exposure is kosher. If it is skewed to either side, you might be looking at over/underexposure. Post some samples if in doubt Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

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pspentax Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 367 Original Poster	Hi all, Thanks for your help. I have the monitor calibrated and the histogram is a litle in the underexpose side in that photos. The Q LCD cheats to much ... i have K20D, K5, D7000, 7D, 5D, 5DII and in that ones the LCD image is almost like you see in computer. Now i use the compensation almost every time around +0,7/1stop´s... do you guys use the same compensation??? One more things the Capture 1 and Lightroom are so so with the Q raw´s the Aperture do the best work.... i use almost 99% of the time the Lightroom. Cheers, Pedro

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Rob22315 Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alexandria VA USA Posts: 315	Sounds like the camera is underexposing, what type of metering are you using? Spot, Center-weighted, Average?

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pspentax Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 367 Original Poster	Originally posted by Rob22315 Sounds like the camera is underexposing, what type of metering are you using? Spot, Center-weighted, Average? I almost use Average/Matrix and manual but i have tried all the metering and the sintome is the same. Tanks

04-23-2013, 02:53 PM	#9
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	As said, use the histogram as it's a wonderful tool to preview pics!

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pspentax Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 367 Original Poster	Originally posted by VisualDarkness As said, use the histogram as it's a wonderful tool to preview pics! Yes i have come to that conclusion... i have to look more times for the histogram of the Q... and 2/3 or more of the time i have to ad +0,7/1 stop´s. Regards, Pedro

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VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	I agree that the Q tend to underexpose, probably because the bad performance when it comes to recoverable highlights.

04-23-2013, 03:28 PM	#12
pspentax Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Lisbon, Portugal Posts: 367 Original Poster	Originally posted by VisualDarkness I agree that the Q tend to underexpose, probably because the bad performance when it comes to recoverable highlights. Yes.. i second that

04-23-2013, 07:07 PM	#13
Nick Siebers Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Madison, WI Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,165	Check your color space! I had this problem bad when computer and camera color space did not match. If you use sRGB I think it will eliminate this problem.

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RKKS08 Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Frankfurt am Main Posts: 1,241	I don't know the Q, but if you set other Pentax cameras to Adobe colour space, the firmware will care for the needed corrections for the LCD display. On your computer, graphics card/processor, drivers, profile, and your monitor must support Adobe CS, otherwise the pictures will look too dark and dull. If you don't want to get your pictures professionally printed (for books, calendars, exhibitions, etc,), sRGB should be good enough. Unfortunately, there is no way back, as with sRGB some colour information will be missing.