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06-18-2013, 07:13 PM   #1
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Is the Q sensor that bad?

Hey guys, thanks for the reply in the colour thread I posted. After reading/watching lots of reviews i've seen many people comment on the sensor size. Is it as bad as people are making it out to be?

I already have a Canon 550d/T2i and plan to get the Pentax Q with Prime Lens for 180 ($250)

Thanks

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Small? yes
Bad? Hell no!
see for yourself
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It's the best 1/2.3" sensor out there, by a great distance - that's the good news, and the limitation, all in one sound bite.
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QuoteOriginally posted by robtcorl Quote
Small? yes
Bad? Hell no!
see for yourself
I strongly endorse this view. Q-enthusiasm is infectious, and it's based on the fact that this tiny camera can take great pictures.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Outsiderr Quote
Hey guys, thanks for the reply in the colour thread I posted. After reading/watching lots of reviews i've seen many people comment on the sensor size. Is it as bad as people are making it out to be?

I already have a Canon 550d/T2i and plan to get the Pentax Q with Prime Lens for 180 ($250)

Thanks
The bigger the sensor size, the better the image quality. The Q/Q10 have point and shoot sensors, so it isn't really fair to compare their IQ to that of a DSLR.

For me personally, 1/2.3" sensors are too small. I might be able to live with the 1/1.7" sensor found in the Q7, though, as it's already proven to be a big upgrade

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QuoteOriginally posted by Outsiderr Quote
I already have a Canon 550d/T2i and plan to get the Pentax Q with Prime Lens
At base ISO (125) the sensor is decent. Some folks are OK shooting it at higher ISO's but I prefer not to.
It depends on the type of photography you do, whether you like grain or not and/or if you have good noise reduction skills/software.

Don't try to compare the output to a DSLR as Adam states, evaluate the Q on its own (many) merits.
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Well if i'm using the Q more than my X-Pro1 then that should tell you something about the Q sensor and functionality. As I mentioned before on my site Answer to previous post + My love for the Q — BokehDreams
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Thanks for the replies, how would it compare to something like the PEN MINI (E-PM1)??

Or even a compact camera such as the Sony DSCW670?

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Why all the procrastination? You said in post#1 you planned to buy a Q and Prime lens kit? Do it, it's a great little camera - honest. Punches way above it's weight and will surprise you every time you use it..
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Or even a compact camera such as the Sony DSCW670?
Serious??? Not even the same class of camera, you can't compare..
Comparisons with other cameras are subjective and a lot is based on how good you are with a camera and as a photographer in general.
Besides, this is a Pentax camera forum..
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I haven't had Q for long time yet but here are some full size samples with 02 zoom, so judge yourself (click image for full size). Shot DNG and exported from Lightroom with some levels/contrast and sharpness adjustments:

5mm, ISO 500


6,6mm, ISO 640


7,3mm, ISO500


8,5mm, ISO 200


11,8mm, ISO 125


14,9mm, ISO 125


And some with 01 prime (click image for full size):

ISO 125


ISO 125


ISO 125


Original RAW file may seem bit soft at first but with some careful sharpening it does pretty good. I haven't tried jpg as I shoot only RAW. I don't know what others think but IMO that's pretty good for small and "bad" sensor But of course small size comes with a price as the details start to fade rapidly at ISO 800 and forward.
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Its more a state of mind.

The Q is more about portability, fun and the IQ is good enough for A4 prints and most normal viewing.
and a bit more than that
https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-q/194467-pentax-q-real-world-user-review.html

As for high ISO, here's my practical take on it.
Pentax Q10 - a quick review

Is it not able to take good photos?
Pls see this :

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2013 | 06 | 02 - Q10 by Tiak Siew Sim of <a href="http://www.sim4nee.com" rel="nofollow">www.sim4nee.com</a> - a set on Flickr
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One of the Clubsnap forumers used a Q10 for portraiture:
Fashion/portraits by Pentax Q10

Did not see Post #11, which is what I wanted to refer to as well.
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Is it really this good?
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QuoteOriginally posted by monochrome Quote
Is it really this good?
You sure can link to the post whenever a 'too small sensor" discussion comes up

The photographer is good, he shoots for various local publications.
It goes to show that the vision and execution by the photographer is more important that the camera in many cases.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pinholecam Quote
You sure can link to the post whenever a 'too small sensor" discussion comes up

The photographer is good, he shoots for various local publications.
It goes to show that the vision and execution by the photographer is more important that the camera in many cases.
I hope you understood that my question was fairly dry.
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