Lens trade

hnikesch · 07-30-2013, 05:22 PM

A while back I traded my 01 for an 02 on the market place. I felt limited with the 01 and after checking the photozone lens review on the 2 lenses and the 02 seemed as sharp (close) as the 01 in the 8mm range and in practice it is. All went great with the trade, got a new looking 02 for my new looking 01. Well after using the 02 for several months I missed my 01 just a little but not enough to trade back. I really like the 02 but as they are now selling the 01 I just had to get one again. Now to my question I received my new 01 the other day and the IQ is great just like my old 01 but it seems different and I think I put my finger on what it is. The lens outer barrel is plastic and I think my old 01 was metal, am I imagining things, are the older 01 lens barrels (where "01 Standard Prime is stamped) metal or were they always plastic and I am just loosing it. Love both lenses they are keepers.

Hans

Adam · 07-30-2013, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by hnikesch

A while back I traded my 01 for an 02 on the market place. I felt limited with the 01 and after checking the photozone lens review on the 2 lenses and the 02 seemed as sharp (close) as the 01 in the 8mm range and in practice it is. All went great with the trade, got a new looking 02 for my new looking 01. Well after using the 02 for several months I missed my 01 just a little but not enough to trade back. I really like the 02 but as they are now selling the 01 I just had to get one again. Now to my question I received my new 01 the other day and the IQ is great just like my old 01 but it seems different and I think I put my finger on what it is. The lens outer barrel is plastic and I think my old 01 was metal, am I imagining things, are the older 01 lens barrels (where "01 Standard Prime is stamped) metal or were they always plastic and I am just loosing it. Love both lenses they are keepers.

Hans

I'm pretty sure they've always been made of plastic, but I'm not positive!

**crewl1** · 07-30-2013, 05:59 PM

Maybe you are thinking about the hood which is aluminum?

Docrwm · 07-30-2013, 06:11 PM

Mine's plastic and I've had it the longest. As Larry said, the hood is metal (and a nice one too).

snostorm · 07-30-2013, 08:15 PM

I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01.

Scott

Teddy 738 · 07-31-2013, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by snostorm

I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01.

Scott

I'm with Scott on this,have had my first Q since it first came out and it's all metal.

The second one Store display is the same.

Best Ted

**crewl1** · 07-31-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Teddy 738

I'm with Scott on this,have had my first Q since it first came out and it's all metal.

The second one Store display is the same.

Best Ted

The camera yes, but the lenses? Doesn't make sense they would switch from metal to plastic without calling it a v2?

mpreston · 07-31-2013, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by snostorm

I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01.

Scott

I have two 01 lenses. I pretty sure they both are plastic. I took a compass point and it seemed to make a indention.

The first one I bought back in the spring of 2012 with a serial number 3070607 the second one is 3082350.

Docrwm · 07-31-2013, 03:22 PM

The mount is metal. Short of scratching it I can't be sure but the weight and flex say plastic.

snostorm · 07-31-2013, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by mpreston

I have two 01 lenses. I pretty sure they both are plastic. I took a compass point and it seemed to make a indention.

The first one I bought back in the spring of 2012 with a serial number 3070607 the second one is 3082350.

My 01 has a serial # of 3025xxx FWIW. The Q was scheduled for production of about 24K units.month, and for at least the first few months, the 01 was the only lens bundled as a kit, so I'm guessing it's from one of the first production runs. They could have changed the main barrel body when they originally made the decision to downgrade the body to the Q10 as a plastic barrel would be more practical for colors, and the superior build quality of the Q's metal body was constantly being undercut by the grumbling about the price. except for the resistance to dimpling by sharp objects, I'm really hard pressed to feel any difference between the base barrel for the 01 and 02, or 06.

Scott

**crewl1** · 08-01-2013, 12:26 AM

Would there be a weight difference? I will weigh mine tomorrow and then we can compare to yours Scott.

hnikesch · 08-01-2013, 04:20 AM

What I found is my. 02 barrel is cooler to the tuch than my new 01 or my 06 (when ever I get it back) It wouldn't surprise me if they changed them all to plastic with the introduction of the Q10. Like Scott said it's easier to produce in colors.

Hans

**crewl1** · 08-01-2013, 09:09 AM

I weighed my naked lens (no caps or hood) and it comes in at 36 grams or 1.2 oz

The specs on our site here have it at 37 grams. SMC Pentax-Q 01 Standard Prime 8.5mm F1.9 Reviews - Q-Mount Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database

I would expect changing from metal to plastic would give a decrease in weight. Is it possible that we now have rare version of 01 that will command a higher price in the future?

Scott, can you weigh yours and see what it shows?

My serial number is 3039500.

**crewl1** · 08-01-2013, 09:18 AM

Originally posted by hnikesch

What I found is my. 02 barrel is cooler to the tuch than my new 01 or my 06 (when ever I get it back) It wouldn't surprise me if they changed them all to plastic with the introduction of the Q10. Like Scott said it's easier to produce in colors.

Hans

My 02 barrel also appears to be made of metal.
There is a shiny ring that looks like polished aluminum in the middle of the zoom indicator, the ridges of the zoom barrel have become discolored, and the zoom pointer appears to be inlaid instead of painted like on the 06.
Hmmmm.

02 serial number is 3076886.

Teddy 738 · 08-01-2013, 11:20 AM

Re: 01 Lenses
Lens#1: Ser.# 3021xxx weight 36gr.
Lens#2: Ser.# 3026xxx weight 36gr.

Ted

07-31-2013, 03:07 PM	#8
mpreston Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Flower Mound, Texas Photos: Albums Posts: 120	What is the serial number? Originally posted by snostorm I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01. Scott I have two 01 lenses. I pretty sure they both are plastic. I took a compass point and it seemed to make a indention. The first one I bought back in the spring of 2012 with a serial number 3070607 the second one is 3082350.

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07-30-2013, 05:22 PM	#1
hnikesch Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,316	Lens trade A while back I traded my 01 for an 02 on the market place. I felt limited with the 01 and after checking the photozone lens review on the 2 lenses and the 02 seemed as sharp (close) as the 01 in the 8mm range and in practice it is. All went great with the trade, got a new looking 02 for my new looking 01. Well after using the 02 for several months I missed my 01 just a little but not enough to trade back. I really like the 02 but as they are now selling the 01 I just had to get one again. Now to my question I received my new 01 the other day and the IQ is great just like my old 01 but it seems different and I think I put my finger on what it is. The lens outer barrel is plastic and I think my old 01 was metal, am I imagining things, are the older 01 lens barrels (where "01 Standard Prime is stamped) metal or were they always plastic and I am just loosing it. Love both lenses they are keepers. Hans

07-30-2013, 05:26 PM	#2
Adam Administrator Site Webmaster Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arizona Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 51,594	Originally posted by hnikesch A while back I traded my 01 for an 02 on the market place. I felt limited with the 01 and after checking the photozone lens review on the 2 lenses and the 02 seemed as sharp (close) as the 01 in the 8mm range and in practice it is. All went great with the trade, got a new looking 02 for my new looking 01. Well after using the 02 for several months I missed my 01 just a little but not enough to trade back. I really like the 02 but as they are now selling the 01 I just had to get one again. Now to my question I received my new 01 the other day and the IQ is great just like my old 01 but it seems different and I think I put my finger on what it is. The lens outer barrel is plastic and I think my old 01 was metal, am I imagining things, are the older 01 lens barrels (where "01 Standard Prime is stamped) metal or were they always plastic and I am just loosing it. Love both lenses they are keepers. Hans I'm pretty sure they've always been made of plastic, but I'm not positive! Adam PentaxForums.com Webmaster (Site Usage Guide \| Site Help \| My Photography) PentaxForums.com server and development costs are user-supported. You can help cover these costs by donating or purchasing one of our Pentax eBooks. Or, buy your photo gear from our affiliates, Adorama, B&H Photo, KEH, or Topaz Labs, and get FREE Marketplace access - click here to see how! Trusted Pentax retailers:

07-30-2013, 05:59 PM	#3
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Maybe you are thinking about the hood which is aluminum?

07-30-2013, 06:11 PM	#4
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	Mine's plastic and I've had it the longest. As Larry said, the hood is metal (and a nice one too).

07-30-2013, 08:15 PM	#5
snostorm Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago suburb, IL, USA Posts: 1,535	I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01. Scott

07-31-2013, 02:21 PM	#6
Teddy 738 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 54	Originally posted by snostorm I believe that my 01 (a very early one since I was an early adopter) has all metal construction. A knife point will easily dimple my 02's finish near the mount, but not the 01. Scott I'm with Scott on this,have had my first Q since it first came out and it's all metal. The second one Store display is the same. Best Ted

07-31-2013, 02:48 PM	#7
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by Teddy 738 I'm with Scott on this,have had my first Q since it first came out and it's all metal. The second one Store display is the same. Best Ted The camera yes, but the lenses? Doesn't make sense they would switch from metal to plastic without calling it a v2?

07-31-2013, 03:22 PM	#9
Docrwm Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Somewhere in the Southern US Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,285	The mount is metal. Short of scratching it I can't be sure but the weight and flex say plastic.

07-31-2013, 08:25 PM	#10
snostorm Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago suburb, IL, USA Posts: 1,535	Originally posted by mpreston I have two 01 lenses. I pretty sure they both are plastic. I took a compass point and it seemed to make a indention. The first one I bought back in the spring of 2012 with a serial number 3070607 the second one is 3082350. My 01 has a serial # of 3025xxx FWIW. The Q was scheduled for production of about 24K units.month, and for at least the first few months, the 01 was the only lens bundled as a kit, so I'm guessing it's from one of the first production runs. They could have changed the main barrel body when they originally made the decision to downgrade the body to the Q10 as a plastic barrel would be more practical for colors, and the superior build quality of the Q's metal body was constantly being undercut by the grumbling about the price. except for the resistance to dimpling by sharp objects, I'm really hard pressed to feel any difference between the base barrel for the 01 and 02, or 06. Scott

08-01-2013, 12:26 AM	#11
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Would there be a weight difference? I will weigh mine tomorrow and then we can compare to yours Scott.

08-01-2013, 04:20 AM	#12
hnikesch Veteran Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,316 Original Poster	What I found is my. 02 barrel is cooler to the tuch than my new 01 or my 06 (when ever I get it back) It wouldn't surprise me if they changed them all to plastic with the introduction of the Q10. Like Scott said it's easier to produce in colors. Hans

08-01-2013, 09:09 AM	#13
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	I weighed my naked lens (no caps or hood) and it comes in at 36 grams or 1.2 oz The specs on our site here have it at 37 grams. SMC Pentax-Q 01 Standard Prime 8.5mm F1.9 Reviews - Q-Mount Prime Lenses - Pentax Lens Reviews & Lens Database I would expect changing from metal to plastic would give a decrease in weight. Is it possible that we now have rare version of 01 that will command a higher price in the future? Scott, can you weigh yours and see what it shows? My serial number is 3039500.

08-01-2013, 09:18 AM	#14
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by hnikesch What I found is my. 02 barrel is cooler to the tuch than my new 01 or my 06 (when ever I get it back) It wouldn't surprise me if they changed them all to plastic with the introduction of the Q10. Like Scott said it's easier to produce in colors. Hans My 02 barrel also appears to be made of metal. There is a shiny ring that looks like polished aluminum in the middle of the zoom indicator, the ridges of the zoom barrel have become discolored, and the zoom pointer appears to be inlaid instead of painted like on the 06. Hmmmm. 02 serial number is 3076886.

08-01-2013, 11:20 AM	#15
Teddy 738 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 54	Re: 01 Lenses Lens#1: Ser.# 3021xxx weight 36gr. Lens#2: Ser.# 3026xxx weight 36gr. Ted