Q-S1 + 07 = no hotshoe flash?

enoeske · 01-22-2015, 10:27 AM

I can't seem to get this working with pocket wizards. Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference. I've gone down to 1/10 shutter to make sure its not a sync speed issue. I'm not getting any triggering out of the hotshoe.

**UncleVanya** · 01-22-2015, 12:33 PM

Which flash? The manual for the Q-S1 seems ominous about using non-Pentax flash with it...

Pentax QS-1 Operation Manual (Page 84 of 110)

See caution...

enoeske · 01-22-2015, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by UncleVanya

Which flash? The manual for the Q-S1 seems ominous about using non-Pentax flash with it...

Pentax QS-1 Operation Manual (Page 84 of 110)

See caution...

Just plain pocket wizards -- just need it to fire the center pin.

**UncleVanya** · 01-22-2015, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

Just plain pocket wizards -- just need it to fire the center pin.

I suspect that should be OK - but that manual warning is interesting. I guess just the standard disclaimer.

VisualDarkness · 01-22-2015, 12:56 PM

Have you turned flash to off in the menu?

enoeske · 01-22-2015, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

Have you turned flash to off in the menu?

Yes, Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference

VisualDarkness · 01-22-2015, 01:04 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

Yes, Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference

I now see that you already wrote it so other than bad connection or broken units I got no good guesses.

reh321 · 01-22-2015, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by enoeske

I can't seem to get this working with pocket wizards. Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference. I've gone down to 1/10 shutter to make sure its not a sync speed issue. I'm not getting any triggering out of the hotshoe.

I can't speak to the Q-S1, because I have a Q-7. I am using a generic flash which I still had twenty years after using it with my Pentax Super Program (my wife says I never toss things). At first I had trouble getting the flash to work. IIRC, my problem was that I had disabled the flash at the menu level. I now set the on-board flash to be disabled when it is lowered and enable the external flash at the menu level. I normally set the shutter speed to something like 1/60, solely because that is the kind of shutter speed I had to use with my film cameras.

Steve.Ledger · 01-22-2015, 01:36 PM

I can't get the FlashQ wireless trigger to work with the Q either.

Wolfeye · 01-22-2015, 02:07 PM

Are you in M mode? I think you have to be in M mode.

enoeske · 01-22-2015, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Wolfeye

Are you in M mode? I think you have to be in M mode.

Yes. M mode -- 1/8th shutter, ISO 100, f/9. Flash is set to OFF. Single shot drive mode.

Wolfeye · 01-22-2015, 02:21 PM

I can only suggest turning flash on. After that I think you may have a dead hot shoe. I have the Q and the Q-remote (not made by Pentax) and it works fine, but I'll have to check settings when I get home.

Wolfeye · 01-22-2015, 08:22 PM

Yep, my FlashQ works fine with my Q. Flash is off, M mode, fires fine.

I suspect the hotshoe is fried. Older flash units have a high trigger voltage which can damage newer cameras. I had two Olympus Micro 4/3 hotshoes fried, but thought that Pentax had still kept the older, more robust shoes. Apparently not.

DaveInPA · 01-23-2015, 07:45 AM

Originally posted by Steve.Ledger

I can't get the FlashQ wireless trigger to work with the Q either.

Steve, I have the FlashQ and it works on my Q7. Do you have the Flash set to "off" in the menu and flash speed slow enough (slower than flash-sync speed)?

enoeske · 01-23-2015, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by Wolfeye

Yep, my FlashQ works fine with my Q. Flash is off, M mode, fires fine.

I suspect the hotshoe is fried. Older flash units have a high trigger voltage which can damage newer cameras. I had two Olympus Micro 4/3 hotshoes fried, but thought that Pentax had still kept the older, more robust shoes. Apparently not.

Well, the hotshoe works with the 01 lens perfectly fine. Its not fried or disconnected. I can trigger the flashes without a problem.

But it doesn't work with the 07 lens (which is why its in the title)

01-22-2015, 10:27 AM	#1
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136	Q-S1 + 07 = no hotshoe flash? I can't seem to get this working with pocket wizards. Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference. I've gone down to 1/10 shutter to make sure its not a sync speed issue. I'm not getting any triggering out of the hotshoe.

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01-22-2015, 12:33 PM	#2
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,446	Which flash? The manual for the Q-S1 seems ominous about using non-Pentax flash with it... Pentax QS-1 Operation Manual (Page 84 of 110) See caution...

01-22-2015, 12:43 PM	#3
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136 Original Poster	Originally posted by UncleVanya Which flash? The manual for the Q-S1 seems ominous about using non-Pentax flash with it... Pentax QS-1 Operation Manual (Page 84 of 110) See caution... Just plain pocket wizards -- just need it to fire the center pin.

01-22-2015, 12:54 PM	#4
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,446	Originally posted by enoeske Just plain pocket wizards -- just need it to fire the center pin. I suspect that should be OK - but that manual warning is interesting. I guess just the standard disclaimer.

01-22-2015, 12:56 PM	#5
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Have you turned flash to off in the menu?

01-22-2015, 01:02 PM	#6
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136 Original Poster	Originally posted by VisualDarkness Have you turned flash to off in the menu? Yes, Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference

01-22-2015, 01:04 PM	#7
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Originally posted by enoeske Yes, Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference I now see that you already wrote it so other than bad connection or broken units I got no good guesses.

01-22-2015, 01:15 PM	#8
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,184	Originally posted by enoeske I can't seem to get this working with pocket wizards. Flash on or off doesn't seems to make a difference. I've gone down to 1/10 shutter to make sure its not a sync speed issue. I'm not getting any triggering out of the hotshoe. I can't speak to the Q-S1, because I have a Q-7. I am using a generic flash which I still had twenty years after using it with my Pentax Super Program (my wife says I never toss things). At first I had trouble getting the flash to work. IIRC, my problem was that I had disabled the flash at the menu level. I now set the on-board flash to be disabled when it is lowered and enable the external flash at the menu level. I normally set the shutter speed to something like 1/60, solely because that is the kind of shutter speed I had to use with my film cameras.

01-22-2015, 01:36 PM	#9
Steve.Ledger Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Far North Qld Posts: 3,301	I can't get the FlashQ wireless trigger to work with the Q either.

01-22-2015, 02:07 PM	#10
Wolfeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 782	Are you in M mode? I think you have to be in M mode.

01-22-2015, 02:16 PM	#11
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wolfeye Are you in M mode? I think you have to be in M mode. Yes. M mode -- 1/8th shutter, ISO 100, f/9. Flash is set to OFF. Single shot drive mode.

01-22-2015, 02:21 PM	#12
Wolfeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 782	I can only suggest turning flash on. After that I think you may have a dead hot shoe. I have the Q and the Q-remote (not made by Pentax) and it works fine, but I'll have to check settings when I get home.

01-22-2015, 08:22 PM	#13
Wolfeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 782	Yep, my FlashQ works fine with my Q. Flash is off, M mode, fires fine. I suspect the hotshoe is fried. Older flash units have a high trigger voltage which can damage newer cameras. I had two Olympus Micro 4/3 hotshoes fried, but thought that Pentax had still kept the older, more robust shoes. Apparently not.

01-23-2015, 07:45 AM	#14
DaveInPA Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Bucks County, PA Photos: Albums Posts: 499	Originally posted by Steve.Ledger I can't get the FlashQ wireless trigger to work with the Q either. Steve, I have the FlashQ and it works on my Q7. Do you have the Flash set to "off" in the menu and flash speed slow enough (slower than flash-sync speed)?

01-23-2015, 08:03 AM	#15
enoeske Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Surprise, Az Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,136 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wolfeye Yep, my FlashQ works fine with my Q. Flash is off, M mode, fires fine. I suspect the hotshoe is fried. Older flash units have a high trigger voltage which can damage newer cameras. I had two Olympus Micro 4/3 hotshoes fried, but thought that Pentax had still kept the older, more robust shoes. Apparently not. Well, the hotshoe works with the 01 lens perfectly fine. Its not fried or disconnected. I can trigger the flashes without a problem. But it doesn't work with the 07 lens (which is why its in the title)