My dad wants a small telephoto lens for his Q7 on his walks

ZombieArmy · 10-02-2015, 02:13 AM

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Something with a decent length to do animals from at least a little bit of a distance, while also not adding too much to the camera itself.

I was thinking the Pentax 40mm M f2.8, which would be equiv to about 200mm I think. My only question is would it be reasonable to use this on the go?
Is the fotodiox adapter too finicky to easily swap the lens in from using his 02 lens?

Piotrek K · 10-02-2015, 03:29 AM

M 40/2.8 is not really bad on the Q (better then I expected, in fact). But I found Pentax - Auto 110 50/2.8 better - remember that 110/Q -adapter is really small. You may need to stop down this lens with kind of improvised aperture (quite easy, as front aperture simmilar to preset aperture is also possible).

...but maybe SMC M 135/3.5 (still handholdable for many people) or something in 100 mm range could be better?

**UncleVanya** · 10-02-2015, 04:39 AM

The 06 telephoto zoom will give about that range.

A DA 50 f1.8 might also work - light as well.

cantthink193 · 10-02-2015, 04:58 AM

The 06 telephoto zoom is excellent and has the advantage of easily adjustable aperture and a zoom range. There is a comparison between the 06 telephoto and the 110 50mm lens here.

6BQ5 · 10-02-2015, 05:03 AM

The 06 will max out at around a 200mm equivalent range. IQ is still very good. Shoot at f/3.2. You'll have AF, aperture control, and ND functionality. The lens is light and easy to handle. Beyond that you will need an adapted lens or a different system.

ZombieArmy · 10-02-2015, 05:04 AM

Price is a concern or else he'd just get the 06.

max_pyne · 10-02-2015, 05:08 AM

get the 06!

GibbyTheMole · 10-02-2015, 05:11 AM

I use an m39 Russian Industar 61 LD model 55mm f2.8 on my Q with very good results. Its cheap, small, and looks like it was made for the Q. Also, there's no fringing at all which is a rarity. It's also pretty sharp stopped down a couple of notches. F8 is the sweet spot.

6BQ5 · 10-02-2015, 05:13 AM

Ahh, ok. Then an adapted system may be the way to go. I would still be concerned about ergonomics, though, depending on which lens you adapt. Maybe you could get one of the DA 40mm XS lenses that are going for cheap nowadays + an adapter.

max_pyne · 10-02-2015, 05:18 AM

Pentax Q 06 Telephoto Zoom 15 45mm F2 8 Excellent from Japan 24 | eBay
it can be had for 140 + tax

the M 40 or xs go for 100 - 150 = no difference plus the adapter...

**pacerr** · 10-02-2015, 07:30 AM

Get the 06! NO adapted lens will offer auto focus or be a more compact system with a adapter attached.

Unless you're more interested in fiddling with the gear than making pictures you'll soon tire of the distraction of fully manual control.

The A110 50 is excellent but the 06 makes it fun to use.

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reh231 below has some very pertinent points too.

CWRailman · 10-02-2015, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by 6BQ5

The 06 will max out at around a 200mm equivalent range. IQ is still very good. Shoot at f/3.2. You'll have AF, aperture control, and ND functionality. The lens is light and easy to handle. Beyond that you will need an adapted lens or a different system.

I'll second that. Unless he's an accomplished shooter, and I know some like to argue this point, using an adapted lens can be very frustrating, lead to a lot of missed shots and adds unnecessary weight. the 06 is a beautiful lens.

reh321 · 10-02-2015, 08:19 AM

The Pentax adapter costs roughly $200, which affects the cost of any adapted lens. If you use a less expensive adapter (I have several of them), you lose the advantage of a physical shutter (the Pentax adapter and 01, 02, 06, 08 lenses have a built-in leaf shutter) and have to depend on the so-called "electronic shutter" which is all the body provides. Without a physical shutter, motion causes the so-called "rolling shutter" effect. I'm not sure we want to get into the details of that here ... you can find examples here at the Forum and elsewhere on the Internet ... but you need to take that into consideration when making this decision.

I got my Q-7 last December because it now serves as both my pocket-able camera (with the 01 lens) and my wildlife camera (with adapted lenses). The one thing I didn't consider when making that decision is that the pixels on the sensor are very small and close, so you need a lens which has a high "lines per inch" rating, because otherwise you'll lose a lot of detail that could be there.

jimr-pdx · 10-02-2015, 09:56 AM

I've a bargain smc-M100/2.8 right now in the Market

and a 50mm f/2 not listed; let me know via PM if your dad would like to look either of those over!

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I do agree with others about the 06 though, a nice lens, native Q connections and quite small.

CarlJF · 10-02-2015, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by pacerr

Get the 06! NO adapted lens will offer auto focus or be a more compact system with a adapter attached.

Unless you're more interested in fiddling with the gear than making pictures you'll soon tire of the distraction of fully manual control.

Originally posted by CWRailman

I'll second that. Unless he's an accomplished shooter, and I know some like to argue this point, using an adapted lens can be very frustrating, lead to a lot of missed shots and adds unnecessary weight. the 06 is a beautiful lens.

Totally agree with both of these comments. Experimenting with adapted lenses can be fun, but certainly not something you want to use on a routine basis. Particularly if the lens has a focal range already covered by a native lens. The 06 will be much more practical to use and versatile than an adapted 50mm.

10-02-2015, 02:13 AM	#1
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210	My dad wants a small telephoto lens for his Q7 on his walks Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. Something with a decent length to do animals from at least a little bit of a distance, while also not adding too much to the camera itself. I was thinking the Pentax 40mm M f2.8, which would be equiv to about 200mm I think. My only question is would it be reasonable to use this on the go? Is the fotodiox adapter too finicky to easily swap the lens in from using his 02 lens?

10-02-2015, 03:29 AM	#2
Piotrek K Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,384	M 40/2.8 is not really bad on the Q (better then I expected, in fact). But I found Pentax - Auto 110 50/2.8 better - remember that 110/Q -adapter is really small. You may need to stop down this lens with kind of improvised aperture (quite easy, as front aperture simmilar to preset aperture is also possible). ...but maybe SMC M 135/3.5 (still handholdable for many people) or something in 100 mm range could be better? Last edited by Piotrek K; 10-02-2015 at 03:35 AM. Reason: Additional info

10-02-2015, 07:30 AM	#11
pacerr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Paris, TN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,349	Get the 06! NO adapted lens will offer auto focus or be a more compact system with a adapter attached. Unless you're more interested in fiddling with the gear than making pictures you'll soon tire of the distraction of fully manual control. The A110 50 is excellent but the 06 makes it fun to use. ---------- reh231 below has some very pertinent points too. Last edited by pacerr; 10-02-2015 at 08:32 AM.

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10-02-2015, 04:39 AM	#3
UncleVanya Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2014 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 28,398	The 06 telephoto zoom will give about that range. A DA 50 f1.8 might also work - light as well.

10-02-2015, 04:58 AM	#4
cantthink193 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 74	The 06 telephoto zoom is excellent and has the advantage of easily adjustable aperture and a zoom range. There is a comparison between the 06 telephoto and the 110 50mm lens here.

10-02-2015, 05:03 AM	#5
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	The 06 will max out at around a 200mm equivalent range. IQ is still very good. Shoot at f/3.2. You'll have AF, aperture control, and ND functionality. The lens is light and easy to handle. Beyond that you will need an adapted lens or a different system.

10-02-2015, 05:04 AM	#6
ZombieArmy Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Florida Posts: 3,210 Original Poster	Price is a concern or else he'd just get the 06.

10-02-2015, 05:08 AM	#7
max_pyne Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: zurich Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 409	get the 06!

10-02-2015, 05:11 AM	#8
GibbyTheMole Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Iowa Photos: Albums Posts: 2,275	I use an m39 Russian Industar 61 LD model 55mm f2.8 on my Q with very good results. Its cheap, small, and looks like it was made for the Q. Also, there's no fringing at all which is a rarity. It's also pretty sharp stopped down a couple of notches. F8 is the sweet spot.

10-02-2015, 05:13 AM	#9
6BQ5 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Nevada, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,348	Ahh, ok. Then an adapted system may be the way to go. I would still be concerned about ergonomics, though, depending on which lens you adapt. Maybe you could get one of the DA 40mm XS lenses that are going for cheap nowadays + an adapter.

10-02-2015, 05:18 AM	#10
max_pyne Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: zurich Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 409	Pentax Q 06 Telephoto Zoom 15 45mm F2 8 Excellent from Japan 24 \| eBay it can be had for 140 + tax the M 40 or xs go for 100 - 150 = no difference plus the adapter...

10-02-2015, 08:09 AM	#12
CWRailman Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Photos: Albums Posts: 510	Originally posted by 6BQ5 The 06 will max out at around a 200mm equivalent range. IQ is still very good. Shoot at f/3.2. You'll have AF, aperture control, and ND functionality. The lens is light and easy to handle. Beyond that you will need an adapted lens or a different system. I'll second that. Unless he's an accomplished shooter, and I know some like to argue this point, using an adapted lens can be very frustrating, lead to a lot of missed shots and adds unnecessary weight. the 06 is a beautiful lens.

10-02-2015, 08:19 AM	#13
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,177	The Pentax adapter costs roughly $200, which affects the cost of any adapted lens. If you use a less expensive adapter (I have several of them), you lose the advantage of a physical shutter (the Pentax adapter and 01, 02, 06, 08 lenses have a built-in leaf shutter) and have to depend on the so-called "electronic shutter" which is all the body provides. Without a physical shutter, motion causes the so-called "rolling shutter" effect. I'm not sure we want to get into the details of that here ... you can find examples here at the Forum and elsewhere on the Internet ... but you need to take that into consideration when making this decision. I got my Q-7 last December because it now serves as both my pocket-able camera (with the 01 lens) and my wildlife camera (with adapted lenses). The one thing I didn't consider when making that decision is that the pixels on the sensor are very small and close, so you need a lens which has a high "lines per inch" rating, because otherwise you'll lose a lot of detail that could be there.

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10-02-2015, 09:56 AM	#14
jimr-pdx Pentaxian Join Date: May 2010 Location: now 1 hour north of PDX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,897	I've a bargain smc-M100/2.8 right now in the Market and a 50mm f/2 not listed; let me know via PM if your dad would like to look either of those over! ---------- Post added 10-02-15 at 08:58 ---------- I do agree with others about the 06 though, a nice lens, native Q connections and quite small.

10-02-2015, 11:44 AM	#15
CarlJF Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Quebec City Posts: 1,185	Originally posted by pacerr Get the 06! NO adapted lens will offer auto focus or be a more compact system with a adapter attached. Unless you're more interested in fiddling with the gear than making pictures you'll soon tire of the distraction of fully manual control. Originally posted by CWRailman I'll second that. Unless he's an accomplished shooter, and I know some like to argue this point, using an adapted lens can be very frustrating, lead to a lot of missed shots and adds unnecessary weight. the 06 is a beautiful lens. Totally agree with both of these comments. Experimenting with adapted lenses can be fun, but certainly not something you want to use on a routine basis. Particularly if the lens has a focal range already covered by a native lens. The 06 will be much more practical to use and versatile than an adapted 50mm.