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08-10-2016, 04:51 PM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by CWRailman Quote
You are correct about my model railroad images and I continue to use the Q7 for model RR shots because and only because it has a great depth of field. I discussed this in several blogs on my CWRailman WEB site. However when depth of field is not a concern the Q7 cannot match up with the image quality I achieve from my GM-5 which due to sensor size produces less depth of field and the GM-5 cannot match up with the image quality I get from my Fuji cameras. Each of these cameras has it’s own job. As I have noted in several other threads, cameras are like tools and like tools there are different cameras for different purposes. Some folks will try and pound a trim finishing nail with a sledge hammer and some will attempt to break rocks with a finishing hammer but the effort they expend in getting the inappropriate tool to do their job will be high and their success rate when using the improper tool will be very low. When you focus on the type of photography that interests you then you can select the type of camera best suited to YOUR needs and which feels best in YOUR hands. Just because a camera has all the capabilities and features you need does not mean that it will inspire you or facilitate your capturing the images you want to keep.
This {very reasonable} post disagrees with your "substandard size sensor" comment that some of us reacted to. There you were using what appeared to be an absolute measure that the Q-family cannot reach. Here you are using a relative measure that depends on the task at hand. My success rate at capturing wildlife has skyrocketed since I switched to the proper tool, namely the Q-7 with it's allegedly substandard sized sensor.


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08-29-2016, 03:53 AM   #17
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Fire sale of Pentax Q models in France today:

- Q7 + 5-15mm = €199 (i.e. US$185)
- Q7 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = €299 (i.e. US$279)

- Q-S1 + 5-15mm = €195
- Q-S1 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = €299

- Standard Prime 8.5mm f/1.9 = €65
- Standard Zoom 5-15mm = €119
- Toy Lens Wide = €39
- Toy Lens Telephoto = €39
- Wide Zoom 3.8-5.9mm = €169.

It looks like they are clearing the shelves...

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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Fire sale of Pentax Q models in France today:

- Q7 + 5-15mm = 199 (i.e. US$185)
- Q7 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = 299 (i.e. US$279)

- Q-S1 + 5-15mm = 195
- Q-S1 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = 299

- Standard Prime 8.5mm f/1.9 = 65
- Standard Zoom 5-15mm = 119
- Toy Lens Wide = 39
- Toy Lens Telephoto = 39
- Wide Zoom 3.8-5.9mm = 169.

It looks like they are clearing the shelves...
Whose prices are these?
* the French equivalent of B&H?
* the Pentax France?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Fire sale of Pentax Q models in France today:

- Q7 + 5-15mm = 199 (i.e. US$185)
- Q7 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = 299 (i.e. US$279)

- Q-S1 + 5-15mm = 195
- Q-S1 + 5-15mm + 15-45mm = 299

- Standard Prime 8.5mm f/1.9 = 65
- Standard Zoom 5-15mm = 119
- Toy Lens Wide = 39
- Toy Lens Telephoto = 39
- Wide Zoom 3.8-5.9mm = 169.

It looks like they are clearing the shelves...
This is Clearly the end of Q-mount.

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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
Whose prices are these?
* the French equivalent of B&H?
* the Pentax France?
Ricoh Imaging France selling their leftovers via the vente-privee.com discount retailer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Mistral75 Quote
Ricoh Imaging France selling their leftovers via the vente-privee.com discount retailer.
So, most likely something is happening ... we will have some kind of indication soon.
Either we will see a new model or else we will have to conclude that RonHendriks1966 was correct.
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This is Clearly the end of Q-mount.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
This is Clearly the end of Q-mount.
Unfortunately, I think you're right. If they sell off the lenses, it looks like they want to get rid of the whole system. No need to sell the lenses if they only want to get rid of the Q-S1 inventory to make place for a new body...
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
So, most likely something is happening ... we will have some kind of indication soon.
Either we will see a new model or else we will have to conclude that RonHendriks1966 was correct.
QuoteOriginally posted by CarlJF Quote
Unfortunately, I think you're right. If they sell off the lenses, it looks like they want to get rid of the whole system. No need to sell the lenses if they only want to get rid of the Q-S1 inventory to make place for a new body...
This Happens to me sometimes, even when some people don't like that.

QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Maybe of no important, but there is no mention of mirrorless for the stand of Ricoh-Imaging. All other group are name for the stand.

http://www.photokina.com/photokina/Exhibitor-Search/index-2.php?fw_goto=aussteller/details&&kid=0000530093&values=%7B"stichwort"%3A"Ricoh"%2C"start"%3A0%7D

This exhibitor shows the following products and commodity groups:

Cameras
Action cameras
Compact cameras
Medium and large format cameras
Outdoor cameras
Panoramic cameras / 360 degree camera
DSLR cameras
Lenses, filters and camera equipment / accessories
Lenses for large and medium format cameras
Lenses for SLR cameras
Light technique and lighting
Flash units
Additional assortments
Binoculars

So it looks like Q is out the Windows.


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Uh Oh...

Anyone know where the cheapest place online is to pick up a 06 lens?

Also, I have the original Q with 01, 02, 03, 08... Was planning to get a new body at some stage, should I try to pick up an S1 now? Not sure how long I should expect my Q to remain operational... I was hoping for a new model to be launched to add features and allow me to make more use of the wide angle lens.
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QuoteOriginally posted by reh321 Quote
So, most likely something is happening ... we will have some kind of indication soon.Either we will see a new model or else we will have to conclude that RonHendriks1966 was correct.
It would surely be sad if this small, yet very powerful and versatile system should come to an end. But yes, something IS happening: Yesterday, I visited the shop-ricoh-imaging webshops of the UK, France, EU-general and Japan.


The French and British shops had links to 'Mirrorless' (Q-S1 and GXR) but clicking on these links led to a blank "Page does not exist" and re-visiting the same pages this morning, the links had been completely removed. No indication of 'Mirrorless Cameras' whatsoever any more. One can still find Q-mount lenses in these two shops.


Yesterday, the Japanese and EU webshops still had Q-S1 camera bodies and camera+lens combinations listed at ordinary list prices - and as available in stock - and they still had this morning, but some variants are listed as "Sold Out" on the Japanese page, indicating to me that manufacture of the Q-S1 has come to an end. (Not too surprising).


Well, I intend to stick to my Q-system for as long as possible. Perhaps the time has come, where I should secure a back-up body while supplies last?
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QuoteOriginally posted by Stone G. Quote
Well, I intend to stick to my Q-system for as long as possible. Perhaps the time has come, where I should secure a back-up body while supplies last?
This is a good way to have fun with Q into 2020.
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I don't know if PF will have someone at Photokina this year. But if they do, there are some good questions to be asked about the Q system. And, hopefully, they will push for a more useful answer than the the usual "The Q is still listed in our catalog, blah, blah, blah...". Something like "Do you still work on the Q system or see a future in it?". If the answer is anything but "Yes, we do", we'll have our answer.
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QuoteOriginally posted by CarlJF Quote
I don't know if PF will have someone at Photokina this year. But if they do, there are some good questions to be asked about the Q system. And, hopefully, they will push for a more useful answer than the the usual "The Q is still listed in our catalog, blah, blah, blah...". Something like "Do you still work on the Q system or see a future in it?". If the answer is anything but "Yes, we do", we'll have our answer.
It's nice to witness the hope of innocence... I think the signs; selling off lenses at huge discounts; de-listing the system on their website, could be interpreted as abandonment of the line. I hope not, but fear so.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bluefoam Quote
It's nice to witness the hope of innocence... I think the signs; selling off lenses at huge discounts; de-listing the system on their website, could be interpreted as abandonment of the line. I hope not, but fear so.
I don't understand what I'm looking at, because all my regular U.S. sources are showing regular availability at regular prices {for example, the 08 is still listed at nearly $500 - I might get one if the price were half of that}; in fact, today I could get a 01 from a U.S. source {I had to get mine from a Japanese merchant when I bought it in December 2015}
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Probably, the French importer (and possibly the UK one) is on the verge of loosing the Ricoh Pentax franchise.
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