Originally posted by Tony Belding The existing Q series exists very much in the conventional DSLR paradigm. To try and make it more phone-like would require a complete re-invention and transformation. Doing it halfway, by merely grafting on a few phone-like features, would only create a compromised product that would satisfy nobody.
Well it would obviously need a new mainboard and a user interface (which could just be an android skin if they decide to use that as the OS), a new layout to take advantage of the touchscreen, and the touch screen itself. It would take serious software development and third party app support for it to work to its full potential (like instagram and FB). One of the hardest parts ,lens mount and lens development, is already done/in progress, you have a sensor already. You have proven SR. So software and hardware to make the screen and wireless systems work, which all exist in some form or another already. Pentax has some experience with wifi and NFC already, the KS2 has both, I know the K70 and K1 both have wifi at least.
Again I'm not saying completely replace the Q line up with one camera like this. Obviously the existing layout would live on as a more enthusiast oriented model, which most of the diehards here would use.
The system is obviously in a state of flux, no new hardware in a while. its dead one week then the next week it isn't.
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Originally posted by CarlJF Well, you seem to miss the point. The Q is for those occasions when you don't want or can, for whatever reason, carry your DSLR. So, yes, you can have more DOF control with a DSLR, but it doesn't matter at all because when you carry the Q, it's because you will not have your DSLR anyway. You can have the best DSLR in the world with an f-0.5 lens, but you will not get more bokeh. Simply because it will sit somewhere on a shelf... And you will have quite a big problem getting focus and subject isolation with a camera that isn't with you...
Why is it so difficult to understand that the Q (and similarly small cameras) are for those occasions when you don't want to carry a DSLR? If you can bringthe the DSLR with you, obviously it's the one you should use, and nobody denies that. But if you don't want it and carry the Q, you work with what you have and accept its limitations in exchange of small size and discretion. Or, simply put, a picture with Q is still way better than no picture with the DSLR, no matter the bokeh... Comparing the two is mostly useless because the alternative to using the Q isn't the DSLR, it's no camera, or a P&S, or a phone...
Actually, I do understand (the reason why I have a NEX, and owned a MX-1), and so does sony and fuji, its not the DSLR the Q is up against....it small mirrorless cameras which have APSC sized sensors and are about the same size as the Q. You can get DSLR quality photos, more DR, shallow DOF all in a small package. DOF is important to me coming from a DSLR. But clearly that advantage is lost on this small sensor, even with a f2.8...which is why I said that 2.8 really isn't that much of an advantage when other mirrorless cameras can do shallow dof. The people coming up from a cell phone won't care about DOF. People in the market for an advanced mirrorless camera however want the same function as their dslr except in a smaller package and Sony, Fuji, and M43 are doing that.
The Q is a snap shot camera, slightly higher quality and control over a smart phone, but doesn't touch the other mirrorless cameras in the market. So play to its strengths as a snap shot camera and integrate social media connectivity and market it towards the people that find that important....
Give the Q a chance to make it....make it something special that people outside our little group would actually want to use. Then the system can live on, otherwise it looks like it will die out and we all lose that way.
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Originally posted by surfar Which model Samsungs are you referring to?
The galaxy camera.
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Thats just been done, YI technology.....Released in the last week in Europe and Asia.
Cool, I'll look into that.
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Originally posted by reh321 I'm guessing that most true amateurs would also view lack of noise as the primary benefit of the leaf shutter, and based on how smart phones are used, I'm guessing that most don't care much about DOF either.
That was my point. Shallow DOF isn't something this camera will do easily, so I don't see the constant f2.8 zoom as that great of an advantage. The people moving up from a smart phone won't care too much about f2.8 or DOF, what they will care about is connectivity and ease of use. The people who care about DOF will either just shoot with a DSLR or get a mirrorless with a larger sensor.
I'm not trying to insult anyone or bash this camera. So please don't take it that way. I just want to see it survive and I think it could do that if it would be marketed towards its strengths and maybe adapt to go along with the social media generation. I think I got my point across here (after repeating the same thing several times), so I'll bow out before a firefight starts and stuff gets taken the wrong way. I love pentax as much as the next person on here. Have fun with your fun little quirky Q's, and I hope the system continues to live on.