Now you can order a Metabones K to Q Speedbooster!

lytrytyr · 11-02-2020, 06:03 PM

No, I think the B&H rep is genuinely trying to get Metabones to produce this,
but without a dozen or so orders, they're not going think it's worthwhile.

Mistral75 · 11-04-2020, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

The latest message from B&H: "still out of stock".
Why am I not surprised?

Same kind of answer today: 'We regret the item remains unavailable.' (they send one such message every second week.)

reh321 · 11-04-2020, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Rick_B

Just another "baiting" tactic?

I believe Metabones had B&H and Adorama do their 'marketing' for them.
I do not hold this against B&H and Adorama; they were duped at least as much as we were.

lytrytyr · 11-04-2020, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I believe Metabones had B&H and Adorama do their 'marketing' for them.
I do not hold this against B&H and Adorama; they were duped at least as much as we were.

No-one's being duped.

"If enough people order this one,
Metabones may be motivated to actually produce it"
is what started this thread.

If there aren't enough customers,
Metabones would be foolish to waste money producing it.

reh321 · 11-30-2021, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Mistral75

Same kind of answer today: 'We regret the item remains unavailable.' (they send one such message every second week.)

I continue to get a message from B&H.
It may be about time to do B&H a ‘favor’ and cancel my order for something Metabones obviously has no intention of actually producing.

**BigMackCam** · 11-30-2021, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by reh321

I continue to get a message from B&H.
It may be about time to do B&H a ‘favor’ and cancel my order for something Metabones obviously has no intention of actually producing.

Any intention they might have had must surely be slipping away over time as the number of Q-systems and users gradually reduces. Shame... it would have been a cool product; but with a limited market - a very small portion of an already-small user base

If it had been designed a few years earlier, it could have been viable and reasonably profitable...

lytrytyr · 11-30-2021, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

Any intention they might have had must surely be slipping away over time as the number of Q-systems and users gradually reduces.

There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount.

But if we Pentaxians quit now, it will never happen.

vonBaloney · 11-30-2021, 01:41 PM

There is no way this is ever happening. Maybe some other company will make a super cheap one if they haven't already.

**BigMackCam** · 11-30-2021, 01:48 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by lytrytyr

There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount.

But if we Pentaxians quit now, it will never happen.

Much as I love my Q and Q7 - and all my K-mount glass - I can't justify nearly five hundred bucks for something I'd not be using frequently... so if it does ever get released, I'll have to enjoy it vicariously through you and a few other forum members

lytrytyr · 11-30-2021, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

There is no way this is ever happening.

A dozen orders and lobbying by the B&H rep is how it happens. Three or four orders are not enough.

lytrytyr · 11-30-2021, 02:21 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I'll have to enjoy it vicariously through you and a few other forum members

Our enjoyment is only dreaming as of now, but you are very welcome!

reh321 · 11-30-2021, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by lytrytyr

There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount.

Doing it well required serious engineering - so Metabones showed the skill of their people by designing it.

Since both Adorama and B&H originally listed this thing, I believe Metabones had done all of the development long ago, but couldn't be bothered to produce it.
My view of the Metabones engineering is raised by this effort, but my view of the company in general has badly soured.

This thing should have been in my possession a year before the supply channel problems arose.

**BigMackCam** · 11-30-2021, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Doing it well required serious engineering - so Metabones showed the skill of their people by designing it.

Since both Adorama and B&H originally listed this thing, I believe Metabones had done all of the development long ago, but couldn't be bothered to produce it.
My view of the Metabones engineering is raised by this effort, but my view of the company in general has badly soured.

This thing should have been in my possession a year before the supply channel problems arose.

I don't think it's the case that Metabones "couldn't be bothered to produce it", nor a matter of supply chain problems. I just don't think they've gone into production with it, probably for economic reasons - and that's assuming they even completed development and ironed out all the little issues (of which I'm sure there were / are several, as with any new product). I'm certain you're not the only one disappointed, but they're in business to make money, not lose it.

reh321 · 11-30-2021, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by BigMackCam

I don't think it's the case that Metabones "couldn't be bothered to produce it", nor a matter of supply chain problems. I just don't think they've gone into production with it, probably for economic reasons - and that's if they've even completed development and ironed out all the little issues (of which I'm sure there were / are several, as with any new product). I'm certain you're not the only one disappointed, but they're in business to make money, not lose it.

Unless they come up with a really good explanation, they may have lost their chance to ever get any money from me .... but at B&H's advice, I will wait longer, I do trust them.

added: I believe they used Adorama and B&H to do market research for them; I have absolutely no confidence they will ever decide it is worth their effort to actually manufacture it.

**BigMackCam** · 11-30-2021, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by reh321

Unless they come up with a really good explanation, they may have lost their chance to ever get any money from me .... but at B&H's advice, I will wait longer, I do trust them.

I wouldn't get too bent out of shape with Metabones. They had no contract with potential buyers... They simply haven't followed through with a product release, and there's undoubtedly good business reasons for that. It's no worse than (in fact, arguably not so bad as) a company like Ricoh ending development of a much-loved but niche product line like the Q-system. At least with Metabones you had no money invested in the product... just some hope

11-30-2021, 02:29 PM	#119
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by BigMackCam I don't think it's the case that Metabones "couldn't be bothered to produce it", nor a matter of supply chain problems. I just don't think they've gone into production with it, probably for economic reasons - and that's if they've even completed development and ironed out all the little issues (of which I'm sure there were / are several, as with any new product). I'm certain you're not the only one disappointed, but they're in business to make money, not lose it. Unless they come up with a really good explanation, they may have lost their chance to ever get any money from me .... but at B&H's advice, I will wait longer, I do trust them. added: I believe they used Adorama and B&H to do market research for them; I have absolutely no confidence they will ever decide it is worth their effort to actually manufacture it. Last edited by reh321; 11-30-2021 at 02:38 PM.

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11-02-2020, 06:03 PM	#106
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	No, I think the B&H rep is genuinely trying to get Metabones to produce this, but without a dozen or so orders, they're not going think it's worthwhile.

11-04-2020, 01:47 PM	#107
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by lytrytyr The latest message from B&H: "still out of stock". Why am I not surprised? Same kind of answer today: 'We regret the item remains unavailable.' (they send one such message every second week.)

11-04-2020, 02:03 PM	#108
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Rick_B Just another "baiting" tactic? I believe Metabones had B&H and Adorama do their 'marketing' for them. I do not hold this against B&H and Adorama; they were duped at least as much as we were.

11-04-2020, 07:53 PM	#109
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by reh321 I believe Metabones had B&H and Adorama do their 'marketing' for them. I do not hold this against B&H and Adorama; they were duped at least as much as we were. No-one's being duped. "If enough people order this one, Metabones may be motivated to actually produce it" is what started this thread. If there aren't enough customers, Metabones would be foolish to waste money producing it.

11-30-2021, 11:19 AM	#110
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Mistral75 Same kind of answer today: 'We regret the item remains unavailable.' (they send one such message every second week.) I continue to get a message from B&H. It may be about time to do B&H a ‘favor’ and cancel my order for something Metabones obviously has no intention of actually producing.

11-30-2021, 12:51 PM	#111
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by reh321 I continue to get a message from B&H. It may be about time to do B&H a ‘favor’ and cancel my order for something Metabones obviously has no intention of actually producing. Any intention they might have had must surely be slipping away over time as the number of Q-systems and users gradually reduces. Shame... it would have been a cool product; but with a limited market - a very small portion of an already-small user base If it had been designed a few years earlier, it could have been viable and reasonably profitable...

11-30-2021, 01:39 PM	#112
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam Any intention they might have had must surely be slipping away over time as the number of Q-systems and users gradually reduces. There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount. But if we Pentaxians quit now, it will never happen.

11-30-2021, 01:41 PM	#113
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	There is no way this is ever happening. Maybe some other company will make a super cheap one if they haven't already.

11-30-2021, 01:48 PM - 1 Like	#114
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by lytrytyr There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount. But if we Pentaxians quit now, it will never happen. Much as I love my Q and Q7 - and all my K-mount glass - I can't justify nearly five hundred bucks for something I'd not be using frequently... so if it does ever get released, I'll have to enjoy it vicariously through you and a few other forum members

11-30-2021, 02:19 PM	#115
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by vonBaloney There is no way this is ever happening. A dozen orders and lobbying by the B&H rep is how it happens. Three or four orders are not enough.

11-30-2021, 02:21 PM - 1 Like	#116
lytrytyr Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2011 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,310 Original Poster	Originally posted by BigMackCam I'll have to enjoy it vicariously through you and a few other forum members Our enjoyment is only dreaming as of now, but you are very welcome!

11-30-2021, 02:21 PM	#117
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by lytrytyr There will be a certain small number of definite orders that they will require to go ahead, but only when the current supply chain and other issues clear up. They already have the optics for the Nikon version, so it should take no more than a remount. Doing it well required serious engineering - so Metabones showed the skill of their people by designing it. Since both Adorama and B&H originally listed this thing, I believe Metabones had done all of the development long ago, but couldn't be bothered to produce it. My view of the Metabones engineering is raised by this effort, but my view of the company in general has badly soured. This thing should have been in my possession a year before the supply channel problems arose.

11-30-2021, 02:24 PM	#118
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by reh321 Doing it well required serious engineering - so Metabones showed the skill of their people by designing it. Since both Adorama and B&H originally listed this thing, I believe Metabones had done all of the development long ago, but couldn't be bothered to produce it. My view of the Metabones engineering is raised by this effort, but my view of the company in general has badly soured. This thing should have been in my possession a year before the supply channel problems arose. I don't think it's the case that Metabones "couldn't be bothered to produce it", nor a matter of supply chain problems. I just don't think they've gone into production with it, probably for economic reasons - and that's assuming they even completed development and ironed out all the little issues (of which I'm sure there were / are several, as with any new product). I'm certain you're not the only one disappointed, but they're in business to make money, not lose it.

11-30-2021, 02:42 PM	#120
BigMackCam Digitiser of Film Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: North East of England Posts: 20,674	Originally posted by reh321 Unless they come up with a really good explanation, they may have lost their chance to ever get any money from me .... but at B&H's advice, I will wait longer, I do trust them. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape with Metabones. They had no contract with potential buyers... They simply haven't followed through with a product release, and there's undoubtedly good business reasons for that. It's no worse than (in fact, arguably not so bad as) a company like Ricoh ending development of a much-loved but niche product line like the Q-system. At least with Metabones you had no money invested in the product... just some hope