Ricoh introduces Q flash for GR - ouch!

**barondla** · 07-11-2022, 10:03 AM - **1 Like**

Anyone else feel this is a slap in the face for owners of the discontinued Q camera system?

Thanks,
barondla

**pres589** · 07-11-2022, 10:04 AM

Not seeing any connection between this seemingly third-party flash and the Q system from Pentax.

**pepperberry farm** · 07-11-2022, 10:12 AM

is there a link I'm not seeing to this flash?

**jumbleview** · 07-11-2022, 10:16 AM

We should not blame Ricoh. There is scarcity of letters in Latin alphabet.
Ricoh Japan introduced a new Flash Q Q20II in matte black to match GR cameras - Pentax Rumors

wadge22 · 07-11-2022, 10:17 AM

This is the flash. And yes, third party. There's a special color model made to match the GRIII, which I'm a little unclear as to what involvement Ricoh has with it.

Also, it seems really cool, including probably (I didn't look too hard into compatibility, as I'm assuming if it works with the GRIII it works with Q) really cool to use with a Pentax Q camera. So I think its availability is only a good thing, and not a face slap for anybody.

Not a Number · 07-11-2022, 11:40 AM

This flash isn't a Ricoh product. Although it mentions TTL it doesn't seem to have any specific brands listed. The promotional videos show it being used on various brands. Other than selling it at Ricoh stores the only other Ricoh involvement might be with the matt black version that matches the GR body color.

**kwb** · 07-11-2022, 04:22 PM

Well, in a hope to somewhat alleviate your pain

, even if Ricoh wanted, they couldn't have used that flash in time to promote Pentax Q series. The last of the Q series body, Pentax Q-S1, was launched in Aug/2014. OTOH, FlashQ Q20 was launched in May/2017. (It started as an Indiegogo project in 2015 but wasn't successful there.)
https://www.lightpixlabs.com/blogs/news/new-flashq-q20-launch
FlashQ Q20: A Handy Flash Reinvented | Indiegogo

Anyway, some forum members bought FlashQ Q20 or Q20II for Q series cameras and they seem to be satisfied, search for FlashQ. I didn't buy partly because I wanted something with TTL that could also be used for my other Pentax cameras, but I always thought that the trigger looked really cool on Q7.

2old4toys · 07-11-2022, 11:56 PM

Yeah, I got one for my Q. You’d think matte black paint will scuff/ chip, so why bother… cheap way to revisit an existing product and help sell it again though. They should have had a built-in flash to start with.

reh321 · 07-12-2022, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by 2old4toys

Yeah, I got one for my Q. You’d think matte black paint will scuff/ chip, so why bother… cheap way to revisit an existing product and help sell it again though. They should have had a built-in flash to start with.

A built-in flash is on the camera in your photo {upper right of the Q in your photo}.
I chose to use an old ‘auto’ flash I’ve had for many years - until I started using my K-30 for all flash photos.

pinholecam · 07-13-2022, 01:46 AM

Not bad, but here is already a good one with the Godox 350 which has HSS, PTTL and RF wireless via a cheap controller unit.

2old4toys · 07-13-2022, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by reh321

A built-in flash is on the camera in your photo {upper right of the Q in your photo}.

I meant for the Ricoh camera which is the subject of this thread. Why’d they skip on a built-in flash for that model.

reh321 · 07-13-2022, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by 2old4toys

I meant for the Ricoh camera which is the subject of this thread. Why’d they skip on a built-in flash for that model.

You mean the GR?

2old4toys · 07-13-2022, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by reh321

You mean the GR?

Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it.

**Rondec** · 07-14-2022, 02:25 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by 2old4toys

Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it.

Probably to keep size down, not?

reh321 · 07-14-2022, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by 2old4toys

Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it.

They don’t make things for me.
I would prefer that the “Q” include a viewfinder, but I can {and do} purchase one.
I worry only about the things too expensive {or difficult} to add on, and don’t fuss about the others.

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07-11-2022, 10:16 AM	#4
jumbleview Site Supporter Join Date: May 2012 Location: Concord, CA Posts: 1,067	We should not blame Ricoh. There is scarcity of letters in Latin alphabet. Ricoh Japan introduced a new Flash Q Q20II in matte black to match GR cameras - Pentax Rumors

07-11-2022, 10:17 AM	#5
wadge22 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: NE Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 897	This is the flash. And yes, third party. There's a special color model made to match the GRIII, which I'm a little unclear as to what involvement Ricoh has with it. Also, it seems really cool, including probably (I didn't look too hard into compatibility, as I'm assuming if it works with the GRIII it works with Q) really cool to use with a Pentax Q camera. So I think its availability is only a good thing, and not a face slap for anybody.

07-11-2022, 11:40 AM	#6
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,525	This flash isn't a Ricoh product. Although it mentions TTL it doesn't seem to have any specific brands listed. The promotional videos show it being used on various brands. Other than selling it at Ricoh stores the only other Ricoh involvement might be with the matt black version that matches the GR body color.

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kwb Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Pacific North West Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,223	Well, in a hope to somewhat alleviate your pain , even if Ricoh wanted, they couldn't have used that flash in time to promote Pentax Q series. The last of the Q series body, Pentax Q-S1, was launched in Aug/2014. OTOH, FlashQ Q20 was launched in May/2017. (It started as an Indiegogo project in 2015 but wasn't successful there.) https://www.lightpixlabs.com/blogs/news/new-flashq-q20-launch FlashQ Q20: A Handy Flash Reinvented \| Indiegogo Anyway, some forum members bought FlashQ Q20 or Q20II for Q series cameras and they seem to be satisfied, search for FlashQ. I didn't buy partly because I wanted something with TTL that could also be used for my other Pentax cameras, but I always thought that the trigger looked really cool on Q7.

07-11-2022, 11:56 PM	#8
2old4toys Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 391	Yeah, I got one for my Q. You’d think matte black paint will scuff/ chip, so why bother… cheap way to revisit an existing product and help sell it again though. They should have had a built-in flash to start with.

07-12-2022, 11:25 AM	#9
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by 2old4toys Yeah, I got one for my Q. You’d think matte black paint will scuff/ chip, so why bother… cheap way to revisit an existing product and help sell it again though. They should have had a built-in flash to start with. A built-in flash is on the camera in your photo {upper right of the Q in your photo}. I chose to use an old ‘auto’ flash I’ve had for many years - until I started using my K-30 for all flash photos.

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pinholecam Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,706	Not bad, but here is already a good one with the Godox 350 which has HSS, PTTL and RF wireless via a cheap controller unit.

07-13-2022, 02:22 AM	#11
2old4toys Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 391	Originally posted by reh321 A built-in flash is on the camera in your photo {upper right of the Q in your photo}. I meant for the Ricoh camera which is the subject of this thread. Why’d they skip on a built-in flash for that model.

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07-13-2022, 05:34 PM	#12
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by 2old4toys I meant for the Ricoh camera which is the subject of this thread. Why’d they skip on a built-in flash for that model. You mean the GR?

07-13-2022, 08:23 PM	#13
2old4toys Pentaxian Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 391	Originally posted by reh321 You mean the GR? Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it.

07-14-2022, 02:25 AM - 1 Like	#14
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,650	Originally posted by 2old4toys Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it. Probably to keep size down, not?

07-14-2022, 04:41 AM	#15
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,175	Originally posted by 2old4toys Yeah, why did they skimp on having a built-in flash with PTTL for the GR? I think the predecessor had it. They don’t make things for me. I would prefer that the “Q” include a viewfinder, but I can {and do} purchase one. I worry only about the things too expensive {or difficult} to add on, and don’t fuss about the others.