My Relationship with Pentax a Very Long Goodbye

benjikan · 09-25-2010, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by Michaelina2

If I was a marketing director a camera (or any) company considering sponsorship proposals and discovered this thread, I'd drop Ben in a heartbeat.

The same, if I was a creative director and was considering proposals for a client shoot...

If he is willing to go public with a dis of a past sponsor, I or my client, might get the same treatment. He may be unique, but there's a ton of talent in this world willing to be loyal and discrete. I'm not willing to take the risk with such a loose cannon. My friends and I don't need or want this type of drama.

Thanks for the memories, Ben.

Next...?

When did I "Dis" Pentax...What are you talking about? Dis Pentax? I have promoted Pentax since the adoption of the K10D as my working tool when it was introduced...Do your homework. So please edify me?

dycz · 09-25-2010, 05:04 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

Holly Cow..Did it? I didn't know that! Which image? I guess I should have a look.

Found it...This is it, right?

love your video shoot of that.... (off topic again.. sorry.. big fan).

benjikan · 09-25-2010, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by dycz

love your video shoot of that.... (off topic again.. sorry.. big fan).

More Video's coming shortly.

**Michaelina2** · 09-25-2010, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

When did I "Dis" Pentax...What are you talking about? Dis Pentax? I have promoted Pentax since the adoption of the K10D as my working tool when it was introduced...Do your homework. So please edify me?

Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you.

Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's

Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life.

Ciao...

bfo · 09-25-2010, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by Class A

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Third, what customer let's themselves be guided by the choice of someone who chooses their gear because the manufacturer pays for it?

If Ben has a marketing value for Pentax then it is because (apparently since 2008) he has been using Pentax without being sponsored. That's a statement for the quality/usability of Pentax gear. If Pentax gave him lots of gifts, people would rightfully question whether he only uses Pentax because they sponsor him.
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Well said!
And as a forum member I would take much more care when reading Ben's posts if he was sponsored.. As it is now, we know we get his honest opinion on things.

wlachan · 09-25-2010, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by benjikan

and if you didn't know already, sponsorships are common practice with all brands and in all areas. Just look at Nike, Nestle, TAMA, Fender, etc etc etc etc....

Maybe so, but sponsorship is an offer, not a given.

benjikan · 09-25-2010, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by Michaelina2

Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you.

Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's

Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life.

Ciao...

...and the same to you sir...may it be long and full of memorable experiences...

Last edited by benjikan; 09-25-2010 at 06:40 PM.

causey · 09-25-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by Michaelina2

Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you.

Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's

Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life.

Ciao...

"Jerk"? I just wonder: why this kind of language? Especially towards one of the most respected members of this forum, independently of whether we agree with his new decision and/or attitude or not... And all the more since, as far as I know, this member has always been elegant in expression with his PF interlocutors.

DogLover · 09-25-2010, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by causey

"Jerk"? I just wonder: why this kind of language? Especially towards one of the most respected members of this forum, independently of whether we agree with his new decision and/or attitude... And all the more since, as far as I know, this member has always been elegant in expression with his PF interlocutors.

I agree. Ben has never been a jerk to anyone here, and he has not "dissed" Pentax at all. I think he has shown a lot of restraint in his comments. Believe me, there are plenty of folks here that would indeed be jerks about something like this.

Wheatfield · 09-26-2010, 11:15 PM - **1 Like**

Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way....
a Very Long Goodbye

wlachan · 09-26-2010, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way....
a Very Long Goodbye

Okay this is just killing me.

benjikan · 09-27-2010, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way....
a Very Long Goodbye

This is so GOOD!!! LOL

DogLover · 09-27-2010, 09:03 AM

Inaccurate, but, I have to admit, pretty funny!

benjikan · 09-27-2010, 09:10 AM

I am preparing a Movie Response

and here it is called "I Want to Play": http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7230411/

patk · 09-27-2010, 04:08 PM

you forgot to add the shot of the camera from the bubble gum dispenser mentioned in the third distribution channel thread!

09-25-2010, 06:19 AM	#78
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by dycz love your video shoot of that.... (off topic again.. sorry.. big fan). More Video's coming shortly. Last edited by Parallax; 10-26-2012 at 07:14 AM.

09-25-2010, 03:45 PM	#83
causey Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arlington, VA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,757	Originally posted by Michaelina2 Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you. Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life. Ciao... "Jerk"? I just wonder: why this kind of language? Especially towards one of the most respected members of this forum, independently of whether we agree with his new decision and/or attitude or not... And all the more since, as far as I know, this member has always been elegant in expression with his PF interlocutors. Last edited by causey; 09-26-2010 at 06:17 AM.

09-27-2010, 09:10 AM	#89
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	I am preparing a Movie Response and here it is called "I Want to Play": http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7230411/ Last edited by benjikan; 09-27-2010 at 09:51 AM.

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09-25-2010, 04:22 AM	#76
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by Michaelina2 If I was a marketing director a camera (or any) company considering sponsorship proposals and discovered this thread, I'd drop Ben in a heartbeat. The same, if I was a creative director and was considering proposals for a client shoot... If he is willing to go public with a dis of a past sponsor, I or my client, might get the same treatment. He may be unique, but there's a ton of talent in this world willing to be loyal and discrete. I'm not willing to take the risk with such a loose cannon. My friends and I don't need or want this type of drama. Thanks for the memories, Ben. Next...? When did I "Dis" Pentax...What are you talking about? Dis Pentax? I have promoted Pentax since the adoption of the K10D as my working tool when it was introduced...Do your homework. So please edify me?

09-25-2010, 05:04 AM	#77
dycz Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 180	Originally posted by benjikan Holly Cow..Did it? I didn't know that! Which image? I guess I should have a look. Found it...This is it, right? love your video shoot of that.... (off topic again.. sorry.. big fan).

09-25-2010, 07:04 AM	#79
Michaelina2 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SE Michigan USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,301	Originally posted by benjikan When did I "Dis" Pentax...What are you talking about? Dis Pentax? I have promoted Pentax since the adoption of the K10D as my working tool when it was introduced...Do your homework. So please edify me? Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you. Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life. Ciao...

09-25-2010, 08:05 AM	#80
bfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bærum, Norway Posts: 101	Originally posted by Class A . . Third, what customer let's themselves be guided by the choice of someone who chooses their gear because the manufacturer pays for it? If Ben has a marketing value for Pentax then it is because (apparently since 2008) he has been using Pentax without being sponsored. That's a statement for the quality/usability of Pentax gear. If Pentax gave him lots of gifts, people would rightfully question whether he only uses Pentax because they sponsor him. . . Well said! And as a forum member I would take much more care when reading Ben's posts if he was sponsored.. As it is now, we know we get his honest opinion on things.

09-25-2010, 08:30 AM	#81
wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Originally posted by benjikan and if you didn't know already, sponsorships are common practice with all brands and in all areas. Just look at Nike, Nestle, TAMA, Fender, etc etc etc etc.... Maybe so, but sponsorship is an offer, not a given.

09-25-2010, 03:15 PM	#82
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by Michaelina2 Past is past... Pentax expected you to dance. You did... Thank you. Now is now... Since Pentax wants to go in a different direction, the vibe of THIS thread makes you, the OP, out to be a bitter, thank-less, 'dis-'loyal, jerk to me. If you see it as a celebration, well... that's Again, the memories will be wonderful, but it's time to move on... Have a great life. Ciao... ...and the same to you sir...may it be long and full of memorable experiences... Last edited by benjikan; 09-25-2010 at 06:40 PM.

09-25-2010, 05:50 PM	#84
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Originally posted by causey "Jerk"? I just wonder: why this kind of language? Especially towards one of the most respected members of this forum, independently of whether we agree with his new decision and/or attitude... And all the more since, as far as I know, this member has always been elegant in expression with his PF interlocutors. I agree. Ben has never been a jerk to anyone here, and he has not "dissed" Pentax at all. I think he has shown a lot of restraint in his comments. Believe me, there are plenty of folks here that would indeed be jerks about something like this.

09-26-2010, 11:15 PM - 1 Like	#85
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,981	Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way.... a Very Long Goodbye

09-26-2010, 11:22 PM	#86
wlachan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 2,625	Originally posted by Wheatfield Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way.... a Very Long Goodbye Okay this is just killing me.

09-27-2010, 08:53 AM	#87
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wheatfield Sometimes, you just can't say goodbye any other way.... a Very Long Goodbye This is so GOOD!!! LOL

09-27-2010, 09:03 AM	#88
DogLover Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,054	Inaccurate, but, I have to admit, pretty funny!

09-27-2010, 04:08 PM	#90
patk Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 119	you forgot to add the shot of the camera from the bubble gum dispenser mentioned in the third distribution channel thread!