Dear Pentax

Wired · 09-02-2012, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by drumhead

How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR.

Just dreaming!

Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days!

Ill take your k1000 theory and add a top screen, uncrippled K mount, SR, and both screw drive and SDM.

Who do I give my money too for this device!

Medium FormatPro · 09-02-2012, 09:13 AM

Originally posted by drumhead

How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR.

Just dreaming!

Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days!

Even if Pentax could do it for fifteen hundred; mostly manual - I'd purchase it. It would almost bring back Penta's glory days; and get a new base - especially with students

Clavius · 09-02-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by drumhead

How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR.

Just dreaming!

Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days!

OMG, I'd buy one instantly, in the blink of an eye. Without a second thought.

Transit · 09-02-2012, 03:10 PM

Dear Pentax,

Please give me a menu that has a structure I can organise and rename.
Make it also editable off-camera with a simple user interface.

Thanks !
Pete

paulusje · 09-03-2012, 01:16 AM

Originally posted by drumhead

How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR.

Yes, Yes, And

YES Please !!

what a nice dream to dream

drumhead · 09-03-2012, 04:17 AM

Originally posted by Wired

Ill take your k1000 theory and add a top screen, uncrippled K mount, SR, and both screw drive and SDM.

Who do I give my money too for this device!

Yup, that's it! The more I think about it, the more I want this camera.

**dadipentak** · 09-03-2012, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by drumhead

Yup, that's it! The more I think about it, the more I want this camera.

I'm in!

Alizarine · 09-12-2012, 08:01 AM

Dear Pentax,

Please allow us Pentax DSLR users the option to choose which AF method we want with the DA* lenses. We believe that pro stuff like the DA*s should offer us choices because this will save our sorry butts from making excuses to our clients when the unreliable SDM motor fails. All it takes is a free firmware downloadable for the remaining bunch of loyalists you have

trublubiker · 09-23-2012, 03:42 AM

Dear Pentax.

The pre-release blurb of the Nikon D600 FF camera, for around $1500, caught my eye, so I've been following the threads. OK, that was a furphy, but at $AU2,479 @ DCW with full Oz warranty still looks like a fair deal for an entry level FF.

PRIC , to say the least, rather underwhelmed me with their offerings at Photokina. No Roadmap for upcoming cameras? An outdated, and variable, lens roadmap? Where are you heading? I know Pentax has changed hands twice in five years, but to not give the 'faithful' any carrots , is, IMHO, a big mistake.

So, do I really 'need' a FF camera. Possibly not, but I'd like to think that I can grow into one. With my declining eyesight, a 100% viewfinder (or close) is a big plus.
I still have a plethora of Canon 'A' series cameras, and really enjoyed what I saw in the OVF. Oh, and BTW, Canon lost me when they left all us FD mount users in the lurch.

I've just roughly totted up what I should realistically realise from my Pentax gear, and it certainly gives me a foothold in Nikon land. The D800 is not beyond the realms of possibility (the build quality and WR being comparable to the K5, and a step-up from the D600), although some users unhappy initial journey makes me a little reticent.

I guess the D600 is still 'early days' so I will wait a bit and see if any inherent problems crop up. Suffice to say, I've got 'itchy feet'.

I'm not about to jump ship, but I am leaning on the rail.

Mohawk · 10-03-2012, 05:35 AM

Dear Pentax,

It's a bit depressing to read all these negative posts about your uncertain future in the DSLR market.

But then again I need to earn money, and your flash issue is the final straw. The K-5's known tendency to overexpose when an Af540 is mounted and tilted has reared its ugly head again. I thought I had a work-around but it was to no avail. My last paid comission as a result was a waste. I should have used a Nikon with its dependable flash system.

And I need tethering, and while the k20D suffices at the moment with its clunky interface, it's getting long in the tooth.

I am now estimating how much I will get from selling my gear and moving to a system that better suits my needs. Pentax, thanks for the good products that has allowed be to earn a crust as well as capture great memories of my family, but you are painfully sloooooow to move with the times and you give little indication of where you are heading.

I wish you all the best, but if you provide information on plans for new flash systems, tethering, releasing APS-H or even 135-format DSLRs, increasing flash sync speed, better video capability etc. just to keep up on lost ground, I'll stick with you. Otherwise goodbye Pentax, and hello Nikon!

Cheers,
M

Mohawk · 10-03-2012, 05:47 AM

PS.

My DA*50-135's SDM motor failed a couple of weeks ago. I have sold off all of my SDM lenses except this one.

I know you've recently 'fixed' the SDM issue but not acknowledging it and doing nothing for so long is not acceptable. Hmmm, did I just rationalise the final straw?

Pentax, you have a lot of work to do, so good luck.

Transit · 10-03-2012, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by Mohawk

....

But then again I need to earn money, and your flash issue is the final straw. The K-5's known tendency to overexpose when an Af540 is mounted and tilted has reared its ugly head again. I thought I had a work-around but it was to no avail. My last paid comission as a result was a waste. I should have used a Nikon with its dependable flash system......

Sorry to hear of your problem, your letter should be required reading for the pentax engineers

accio · 10-05-2012, 08:29 AM

Dear Pentax,
don't you want to give a sense to the K-5 external mic input?
So update the firmware to add:
1) Manual audio level adjustment (3 step 0, -10db, -20db would be enough)
2) 44.1Khz sampling rate.
This would greatly improve the audio quality with a minimal effort.

**Fastback67** · 10-05-2012, 05:59 PM - **1 Like**

Dear Pentax

Lots of cameras have LCD screens that swivel, tilt, or flip these days. Why not be the first to produce a "removable" LCD screen with a plug in umbilical. This would be very handy in any number of situations.

**spartan** · 10-07-2012, 04:46 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Mohawk

Dear Pentax,

I wish you all the best, but if you provide information on plans for new flash systems, tethering, releasing APS-H or even 135-format DSLRs, increasing flash sync speed, better video capability etc. just to keep up on lost ground, I'll stick with you. Otherwise goodbye Pentax, and hello Nikon!

Cheers,
M

My sentiments entirely.

I have been a long pentax user resisting the pull from Nikon when I went digital 6 years ago. I felt that Pentax had the best APSc system. However, recently I think they showed poor strategy and as a result a lack of a roadmap to Full Frame.
1) the jump to 645d was not good as it involved investment in lenses for this mount when sensor advancement would enable FF to be competitive on quality with FF (at least at 40 Mpixels). I have A series 645 lenses and the fact that their value has not gone up much indicates that this mount is not doing well.

2) The K-01 design was different for the sake of being different. It is an ugly camera with poor usability (button placement, flaps, ect) . Also if they were committed to this idea, they should have rolled out better compact lenses such as a XS retro zoom. thus the overall camera size could be competitive with the Sony NEX with a lens mounted. But they release one lens, and the camera gets attacked for being FAT. Then you hear that the K-01 is an idea not a plan for K mount mirrorless. In a competitive market you cannot afford these half step mistakes.

3) The Q is actually quite interesting and the logic they used for this camera is that sensor technology gets better thus enabling a really small camera system. I think this makes sense. But if this is true then see point 1) and ask yourself why not invest in FF instead of 645D? Had they done so when they launched the 645D, they would have a better foothold in the FF market.

Nikon has the right system with FF and APSc lenses being usable on both systems.....I will wait just a little more to see what Pentax has to offer then probably move on.

I used to defend pentax in fora like this and on the Consumers Report forum.. No more.

09-02-2012, 09:13 AM	#932
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by drumhead How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR. Just dreaming! Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days! Even if Pentax could do it for fifteen hundred; mostly manual - I'd purchase it. It would almost bring back Penta's glory days; and get a new base - especially with students Last edited by Medium FormatPro; 10-07-2012 at 04:52 AM.

09-23-2012, 03:42 AM	#939
trublubiker Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hunter Valley NSW AUSTRALIA Posts: 143	Underwhelmed with Photokina Dear Pentax. The pre-release blurb of the Nikon D600 FF camera, for around $1500, caught my eye, so I've been following the threads. OK, that was a furphy, but at $AU2,479 @ DCW with full Oz warranty still looks like a fair deal for an entry level FF. PRIC , to say the least, rather underwhelmed me with their offerings at Photokina. No Roadmap for upcoming cameras? An outdated, and variable, lens roadmap? Where are you heading? I know Pentax has changed hands twice in five years, but to not give the 'faithful' any carrots , is, IMHO, a big mistake. So, do I really 'need' a FF camera. Possibly not, but I'd like to think that I can grow into one. With my declining eyesight, a 100% viewfinder (or close) is a big plus. I still have a plethora of Canon 'A' series cameras, and really enjoyed what I saw in the OVF. Oh, and BTW, Canon lost me when they left all us FD mount users in the lurch. I've just roughly totted up what I should realistically realise from my Pentax gear, and it certainly gives me a foothold in Nikon land. The D800 is not beyond the realms of possibility (the build quality and WR being comparable to the K5, and a step-up from the D600), although some users unhappy initial journey makes me a little reticent. I guess the D600 is still 'early days' so I will wait a bit and see if any inherent problems crop up. Suffice to say, I've got 'itchy feet'. I'm not about to jump ship, but I am leaning on the rail.

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09-02-2012, 09:07 AM	#931
Wired Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Edmonton, AB Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,519	Originally posted by drumhead How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR. Just dreaming! Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days! Ill take your k1000 theory and add a top screen, uncrippled K mount, SR, and both screw drive and SDM. Who do I give my money too for this device!

09-02-2012, 01:51 PM	#933
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by drumhead How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR. Just dreaming! Actually give me a FF K5 with better AF and focus peaking in 16 days! OMG, I'd buy one instantly, in the blink of an eye. Without a second thought.

09-02-2012, 03:10 PM	#934
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Dear Pentax, Please give me a menu that has a structure I can organise and rename. Make it also editable off-camera with a simple user interface. Thanks ! Pete

09-03-2012, 01:16 AM	#935
paulusje Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 134	Originally posted by drumhead How about a FF sensor in a K1000 body for $750. Set ISO, shutter, aperture and fire away. No preview screen, no AF, nothing. Back to the roots. For use with legacy MF lenses. Oh, but make it WR. Yes, Yes, And YES Please !! what a nice dream to dream

09-03-2012, 04:17 AM	#936
drumhead Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 71	Originally posted by Wired Ill take your k1000 theory and add a top screen, uncrippled K mount, SR, and both screw drive and SDM. Who do I give my money too for this device! Yup, that's it! The more I think about it, the more I want this camera.

09-03-2012, 06:36 AM	#937
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by drumhead Yup, that's it! The more I think about it, the more I want this camera. I'm in!

09-12-2012, 08:01 AM	#938
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	Dear Pentax, Please allow us Pentax DSLR users the option to choose which AF method we want with the DA* lenses. We believe that pro stuff like the DA*s should offer us choices because this will save our sorry butts from making excuses to our clients when the unreliable SDM motor fails. All it takes is a free firmware downloadable for the remaining bunch of loyalists you have

10-03-2012, 05:35 AM	#940
Mohawk Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 109	Dear Pentax, It's a bit depressing to read all these negative posts about your uncertain future in the DSLR market. But then again I need to earn money, and your flash issue is the final straw. The K-5's known tendency to overexpose when an Af540 is mounted and tilted has reared its ugly head again. I thought I had a work-around but it was to no avail. My last paid comission as a result was a waste. I should have used a Nikon with its dependable flash system. And I need tethering, and while the k20D suffices at the moment with its clunky interface, it's getting long in the tooth. I am now estimating how much I will get from selling my gear and moving to a system that better suits my needs. Pentax, thanks for the good products that has allowed be to earn a crust as well as capture great memories of my family, but you are painfully sloooooow to move with the times and you give little indication of where you are heading. I wish you all the best, but if you provide information on plans for new flash systems, tethering, releasing APS-H or even 135-format DSLRs, increasing flash sync speed, better video capability etc. just to keep up on lost ground, I'll stick with you. Otherwise goodbye Pentax, and hello Nikon! Cheers, M

10-03-2012, 05:47 AM	#941
Mohawk Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 109	PS. My DA*50-135's SDM motor failed a couple of weeks ago. I have sold off all of my SDM lenses except this one. I know you've recently 'fixed' the SDM issue but not acknowledging it and doing nothing for so long is not acceptable. Hmmm, did I just rationalise the final straw? Pentax, you have a lot of work to do, so good luck.

10-03-2012, 12:51 PM	#942
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by Mohawk .... But then again I need to earn money, and your flash issue is the final straw. The K-5's known tendency to overexpose when an Af540 is mounted and tilted has reared its ugly head again. I thought I had a work-around but it was to no avail. My last paid comission as a result was a waste. I should have used a Nikon with its dependable flash system...... Sorry to hear of your problem, your letter should be required reading for the pentax engineers

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10-05-2012, 08:29 AM	#943
accio New Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Bergamo Photos: Albums Posts: 13	Dear Pentax, don't you want to give a sense to the K-5 external mic input? So update the firmware to add: 1) Manual audio level adjustment (3 step 0, -10db, -20db would be enough) 2) 44.1Khz sampling rate. This would greatly improve the audio quality with a minimal effort.

10-05-2012, 05:59 PM - 1 Like	#944
Fastback67 Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Hampshire, USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 348	Dear Pentax Lots of cameras have LCD screens that swivel, tilt, or flip these days. Why not be the first to produce a "removable" LCD screen with a plug in umbilical. This would be very handy in any number of situations.

10-07-2012, 04:46 AM - 1 Like	#945
spartan Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NJ, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 428	Originally posted by Mohawk Dear Pentax, I wish you all the best, but if you provide information on plans for new flash systems, tethering, releasing APS-H or even 135-format DSLRs, increasing flash sync speed, better video capability etc. just to keep up on lost ground, I'll stick with you. Otherwise goodbye Pentax, and hello Nikon! Cheers, M My sentiments entirely. I have been a long pentax user resisting the pull from Nikon when I went digital 6 years ago. I felt that Pentax had the best APSc system. However, recently I think they showed poor strategy and as a result a lack of a roadmap to Full Frame. 1) the jump to 645d was not good as it involved investment in lenses for this mount when sensor advancement would enable FF to be competitive on quality with FF (at least at 40 Mpixels). I have A series 645 lenses and the fact that their value has not gone up much indicates that this mount is not doing well. 2) The K-01 design was different for the sake of being different. It is an ugly camera with poor usability (button placement, flaps, ect) . Also if they were committed to this idea, they should have rolled out better compact lenses such as a XS retro zoom. thus the overall camera size could be competitive with the Sony NEX with a lens mounted. But they release one lens, and the camera gets attacked for being FAT. Then you hear that the K-01 is an idea not a plan for K mount mirrorless. In a competitive market you cannot afford these half step mistakes. 3) The Q is actually quite interesting and the logic they used for this camera is that sensor technology gets better thus enabling a really small camera system. I think this makes sense. But if this is true then see point 1) and ask yourself why not invest in FF instead of 645D? Had they done so when they launched the 645D, they would have a better foothold in the FF market. Nikon has the right system with FF and APSc lenses being usable on both systems.....I will wait just a little more to see what Pentax has to offer then probably move on. I used to defend pentax in fora like this and on the Consumers Report forum.. No more.