Will Pentax/Ricoh bring a FF camera in 2012?

farhagh · 03-29-2012, 09:05 PM

I believe Pentax will not (and should not) ever do a FF dslr. Now, a mirrorless FF is another story, and Pentax can be the first one doing it. I believe if they do, it will put them back on track (although I am not personally going for it)

**monochrome** · 03-29-2012, 09:14 PM

Maybe announced in 2012. Maybe released spring of 2013. Significantly different (unique) than anything you have ever seen yet generally within the context of a dSLR.

philbaum · 03-29-2012, 10:37 PM

Pentax needs to be careful in enlarging their company to handle more lines of cameras. In technology/skill driven companies, bringing in too many new employees faster than they can be trained and assigned to useful work, builds up overhead costs with no immediate gain in revenue. One risks the existence of a company to expand rapidly.

I don't doubt that Pentax will manufacture a FF camera, but they need to rebuild the company along the way.

hansenn · 03-30-2012, 01:32 PM

they will bring one on the market this year, first shown in Koln. I will be there in september and if possible buy one instantly, lol

**7samurai** · 03-30-2012, 07:58 PM

I'm hoping for a compact full-frame along the K-5 line at Photokina. I'm lusting after a D800, but the size won't work for the type of shooting I like to do. If they release a full-frame, I'll still be worried about full-frame compatible lenses. May have to rely on 3rd party manufacturers (sigma?) for the lenses.

hansenn · 03-30-2012, 11:50 PM

don't have to worry about that. I still have some old ff lenses

BNBPhoto · 04-01-2012, 03:45 AM

After having talked with an official Pentax sales rep here in France and asking her directly the question she quietly said that Pentax will release many new products in 2012 and she could not say more.

I will not mention her name here, but there is good promise here. This year there is the Photokina and the Paris Photofare. So manufacturers will be releasing new products, and Pentax should be no exception.

Raffwal · 04-01-2012, 03:55 AM

Originally posted by BNBPhoto

...that Pentax will release many new products in 2012 and she could not say more.... but there is good promise here.

Sorry, but what good promise? Pentax will release new products, no doubt about that. Products such as the replacement of the K-r, some P&S cameras. Perhaps even a new flagship APS-C camera.

BNBPhoto · 04-01-2012, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by Raffwal

Sorry, but what good promise?

Well let's just say that the way and the tone she replied to my question was implying that the "new releases" would be in the sense of the question I asked her.

parsons · 04-04-2012, 04:35 AM

Originally posted by farhagh

I believe Pentax will not (and should not) ever do a FF dslr. Now, a mirrorless FF is another story, and Pentax can be the first one doing it. I believe if they do, it will put them back on track (although I am not personally going for it)

Leica made the first FF mirrorless. Unless I'm missing something...
If its going to be a FF mirrorless then I don't think it will be this year. The Evfs are not fast enough yet.
It would fit the Pentax brand in terms of uniqueness though. And fill an interesting gap in the market.
It would definetly be in the advanced amateur category.
But it would have to be very very good to do even remotely well and below the $2000 mark.

I just don't think it's going to happen.
It will be a slr IF there is one IMO.

Blue · 04-04-2012, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by Adam

Wrong forum. My guess is that it won't be out until next year, though.

I agree.

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03-29-2012, 09:05 PM	#16
farhagh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ohio Photos: Albums Posts: 339	I believe Pentax will not (and should not) ever do a FF dslr. Now, a mirrorless FF is another story, and Pentax can be the first one doing it. I believe if they do, it will put them back on track (although I am not personally going for it)

03-29-2012, 09:14 PM	#17
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Maybe announced in 2012. Maybe released spring of 2013. Significantly different (unique) than anything you have ever seen yet generally within the context of a dSLR.

03-29-2012, 10:37 PM	#18
philbaum Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Port Townsend, Washington State, USA Posts: 3,659	Pentax needs to be careful in enlarging their company to handle more lines of cameras. In technology/skill driven companies, bringing in too many new employees faster than they can be trained and assigned to useful work, builds up overhead costs with no immediate gain in revenue. One risks the existence of a company to expand rapidly. I don't doubt that Pentax will manufacture a FF camera, but they need to rebuild the company along the way.

03-30-2012, 01:32 PM	#19
hansenn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: twente Photos: Gallery Posts: 123	they will bring one on the market this year, first shown in Koln. I will be there in september and if possible buy one instantly, lol

03-30-2012, 07:58 PM	#20
7samurai Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 474	I'm hoping for a compact full-frame along the K-5 line at Photokina. I'm lusting after a D800, but the size won't work for the type of shooting I like to do. If they release a full-frame, I'll still be worried about full-frame compatible lenses. May have to rely on 3rd party manufacturers (sigma?) for the lenses.

03-30-2012, 11:50 PM	#21
hansenn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: twente Photos: Gallery Posts: 123	don't have to worry about that. I still have some old ff lenses

04-01-2012, 03:45 AM	#22
BNBPhoto Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 68	After having talked with an official Pentax sales rep here in France and asking her directly the question she quietly said that Pentax will release many new products in 2012 and she could not say more. I will not mention her name here, but there is good promise here. This year there is the Photokina and the Paris Photofare. So manufacturers will be releasing new products, and Pentax should be no exception.

04-01-2012, 03:55 AM	#23
Raffwal Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The North Posts: 879 Original Poster	Originally posted by BNBPhoto ...that Pentax will release many new products in 2012 and she could not say more.... but there is good promise here. Sorry, but what good promise? Pentax will release new products, no doubt about that. Products such as the replacement of the K-r, some P&S cameras. Perhaps even a new flagship APS-C camera.

04-01-2012, 04:36 AM	#24
BNBPhoto Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 68	Originally posted by Raffwal Sorry, but what good promise? Well let's just say that the way and the tone she replied to my question was implying that the "new releases" would be in the sense of the question I asked her.

04-04-2012, 04:35 AM	#25
parsons Inactive Account Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: ENGLAND Posts: 389	Originally posted by farhagh I believe Pentax will not (and should not) ever do a FF dslr. Now, a mirrorless FF is another story, and Pentax can be the first one doing it. I believe if they do, it will put them back on track (although I am not personally going for it) Leica made the first FF mirrorless. Unless I'm missing something... If its going to be a FF mirrorless then I don't think it will be this year. The Evfs are not fast enough yet. It would fit the Pentax brand in terms of uniqueness though. And fill an interesting gap in the market. It would definetly be in the advanced amateur category. But it would have to be very very good to do even remotely well and below the $2000 mark. I just don't think it's going to happen. It will be a slr IF there is one IMO.

04-04-2012, 06:04 PM	#26
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by Adam Wrong forum. My guess is that it won't be out until next year, though. I agree.