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Yes, I own a M4/3 2335.38%
No I don't own one... but I would like to buy one. 710.77%
No plans to buy one 3553.85%
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07-19-2012, 08:17 AM   #1
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Micro 4/3 camera...buying one or own one?

Micro 4/3 camera...buying one or own one?

If so, which one!

07-20-2012, 07:39 AM   #2
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I like the new Oly. But as it's been revealed that it gets its great (relative) performance from a Sony sensor, meaning in reality that it is going to be fighting battles with the RX100 only 1 stop below it, the multitudes of APS-C Sony sensors 1 stop above it, and the presumably increasing FF sensors 2 stops above it.

Yes, m4/3 is compact, but it isn't trouser-pocketable, or suit-jacket pocketable. For that the RX100 seems the best current solution.

If I have to carry a camera, on a strap or in a bag etc, then there's little sacrifice in moving a stop above at APS-C.

Then of course the whole FF saga, which I do buy into, literally.

Today I got the F 35-70 F3.5/4.5 that so many forum members seem to rate quite highly.

Nice little thing at only 235g with a 49mm filter. I'll use it with my film and digital bodies, but I really got it in anticipation as a handy, small FF digital lens. I guess I can hope. At the price it doesn't matter.

If Oly came out with a 18-35 F1.8-2.4 compact zoom for m4/3, you wouldn't be able to hear yourself think for m4/3 advocates creaming themselves.

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07-20-2012, 07:42 AM   #3
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I picked up a G1 for dirt cheap a few years back; it doesn't get much use. My wife wants to learn cameras and would like us to shoot with identical gear.. so I picked up a second G1 for even less . I found its sensor similar in noise performance to the K-7 but with worse banding problems, but in most cases it does fine. No video though.
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I'm not keen on the lack of regular viewer but the ability to use almost any lens is winning me over, and so is this...

Amazon.com: OLYMPUS 262855 12.3 Megapixel E-PL1 Pen Camera (Black camera body): Camera & Photo

I like the Lumix too, maybe even better, but these Olympus bodies are so cheap I get really tempted. It's supposed to be a decent little camera. I'd really like to have one of these for my purse cam eventually. Adapters for all my lenses are available and fairly cheap. $149? Might be worth it. Right now I just don't have the cash. (I killed the CC on the cat bill.) Or I'd go for it, I think.

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the only one that has tempted me so far is the OMD but to be honest i'd rather pick up a k5 for that money, or the K5 replacement. As it sits I find the K7 more than small enough, I like a little heft in a camera, the weight helps me steady it.
If I wanted smaller and lighter i'd be more inclined to look at the new Sony P&S with the 1" sensor, or a Q for that matter
I'm interested to see what the next Generation Ricoh GRD turns out to be most as a small camera. they have 2 new lens patents that would be 28mm equivalent. 1 for m4/3 the other for apsc. The GRD is the most likely application (or another lensor for the GXR, but they already have an apsc 28mm equivalent lensor)
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E-PL1, great camera, great price. Got the Sigma 19mm also.
I wanted an upgrade from the Optio A40, too much lag time. E-PL1 fits the bill. JPG's are very good, as well as color.
Small enough that I could put it in my bag, but chose a small camera bag instead.
Image quality.....I'll probably get berated by m4/3 folks, but even with Pentax Premium Glass mounted it's not equal
to aps-c quality.
Very good camera for casual shooting though.
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E_PL1, is fun. $150 Short register is ideal for experimenting with home machined lens mounts for PK lenses etc which I do here.
I find its sensor performance about same as my 2004 ist ds. The IBIS and the rather good in body fill flash mode give E_Pl1 a leg up.
Sensor is noisy above iso 1000.
I don't have any native lenses for it and I expect it would perform much better with its native lenses than the adaptors to PK lenses I use.
However those M43 lenses are expensive. I adapted the Pentax -110 lenses, a set of 3 cost $45
https://www.box.com/s/2c50027b4ffaab6eb0e2
https://www.box.com/s/481afc72c76949b81878
the 18mm is my preference: Go full screen:
https://www.box.com/s/f7b4205014069b6b453a

Battery life is only 1 day or less compared to months with ist ds. I got another battery for the E PL1 but now I lost it, carrying it around so much.
The killer for E_PL1 for me is the focus problem.
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I have my friend's panasonic G2 (he does not use it).
sensor quality really can not compare to my k-5...
I do not like to bring G2 when lighting is not very good.
The best thing about the G2 is the live view focus is so fast. it is very handy for event where you want high or low angle shots.
so I use G2 a lot as second body when I am outdoor.

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E-PL3, which is very handy. If the Pentax K-r was quieter and had a tilt screen, I wouldn't own it. I am glad I do, though. It goes everywhere with me.
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E-P1 & 17 with matching optical finder
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I'll admit that the part of me that likes playing with new tech-toys is tempted by the $150 price. I've sometimes thought I should have a small camera that I can take with me anywhere, but have never warmed to those little P&S cameras with their tiny sensors and their lack of RAW. I've seen images from the E-PL1 with the 14-42 kit lens and they're really quite good. Not quite on par with the current Pentax DSLRs, but nearly as good, if not better, than the previous generation of Canikon entry level DSLRs. But I'm not sure I'd ever use such camera. The E-PL1, although small, is not quite pocketable and it doesn't really suit my style of shooting.
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I used to own e-p1, I've sold it and replaced it with GRD IV. I've not plans to get back into m4/3. It doesn't offer me anything that dslr or compact wouldn't.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Nuff Quote
I used to own e-p1, I've sold it and replaced it with GRD IV. I've not plans to get back into m4/3. It doesn't offer me anything that dslr or compact wouldn't.
GRDIV is a tempting camera, saw some ricoh lens patents that would suggest the GRDV may be apsc or m4/3. that would be incredibly tempting (and a solid competitor for the X100)
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I'd say more than half my kit is now m4/3 - with the e-m5 the camera and m4/3 have come quite a long way. I like having the two systems, especially when I can pick up my 43mm and have a nice compact portrait lens with a cheap adapter. My two tie-downs to Pentax are the 50-135mm and tamron 300mm f2.8 (and the pentax af-a 1.7x TC). The upcoming panasonic 35-100mm might uproot the 50-135 though (that will be a tough choice if the new panny is a solid performer), but having the AF TC for the tamron is something I won't be giving up anytime soon.

I've even been having nightmarish thoughts of giving up the 15mm for a panasonic 7-14mm, help!
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I have the Olympus EPL2 and the Panasonic GH1. The EPL2 has the panasonic 14mm pretty much glued to it and the GH1 has the 45-175mm on it. When i want light weight in the streets I usually take one of them with me, sometimes both in a mini back pack.
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