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tclausen · 08-26-2012, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by ChrisPlatt

We all have our favorites, the films we are most comfortable with.
I too love the older films, but it's clear there have been some real
advances in film technology and quality since those were made.

Chris

Oh, true, I wasn't insinuating that everybody should like the film that I'm liking

My point was merely that with the "older films" with which I am comfortable, I can make big, fine-grained enlargements, tight crops, have very high DR (at least, know how to get high DR from them), etc. They're fairly stable against heat, fairly easy to develop......if I was the R&D manager for Kodak or Fuji, I wouldn't really know what I'd ask my engineers to work to improve....

Not saying that the world stops at FP5/T-max and Kodachrome, of course, but I'd wager that the improvements up until (say) FP5 were much much bigger than those occurring since FP5

(diminishing returns...), and that the quality of films *today* already is more than great.

Put it another way: there's a lot more wrong with the digital sensors of today than there is with the films of a decade ago

**gofour3** · 08-26-2012, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Jonathan Mac

B&W concerns me much less than colour, though my use is about 50/50. There are a lot of companies producing B&W films and doing well, hence I'm not so worried. Kodak produces very good B&W films too. But as stated previously and as most of us would imagine, producing a good colour film takes more money and research, and my cencern is more in continued availability and price of colour films.

Yes very true, colour film is more in danger than b&w, especially E6 slide film.

Phil.

Blue · 08-26-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by gofour3

Yes very true, colour film is more in danger than b&w, especially E6 slide film.

Phil.

I hope Portra makes it. They already merged the NC and VC.

rt22306 · 08-26-2012, 12:16 PM

Still doing my part to keep it alive; shot two rolls of Tri-X yesterday, and have a dozen more rolls. Then I'll go and get some more, or maybe some T-Max when those are gone.

**barondla** · 08-27-2012, 08:29 PM

Not sure about tubes used in guitar amps, but there is work going into Hi-fi tubes.
thanks
barondla

twitch · 08-27-2012, 08:45 PM

If in 5 years I can still buy Portra 400 and Ektar 100 I'll be a happy man, I fear I'm heading for disappointment though.

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08-26-2012, 08:35 AM	#16
tclausen Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,397	Originally posted by ChrisPlatt We all have our favorites, the films we are most comfortable with. I too love the older films, but it's clear there have been some real advances in film technology and quality since those were made. Chris Oh, true, I wasn't insinuating that everybody should like the film that I'm liking My point was merely that with the "older films" with which I am comfortable, I can make big, fine-grained enlargements, tight crops, have very high DR (at least, know how to get high DR from them), etc. They're fairly stable against heat, fairly easy to develop......if I was the R&D manager for Kodak or Fuji, I wouldn't really know what I'd ask my engineers to work to improve.... Not saying that the world stops at FP5/T-max and Kodachrome, of course, but I'd wager that the improvements up until (say) FP5 were much much bigger than those occurring since FP5 (diminishing returns...), and that the quality of films today already is more than great. Put it another way: there's a lot more wrong with the digital sensors of today than there is with the films of a decade ago

08-26-2012, 09:38 AM	#17
gofour3 Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 8,092	Originally posted by Jonathan Mac B&W concerns me much less than colour, though my use is about 50/50. There are a lot of companies producing B&W films and doing well, hence I'm not so worried. Kodak produces very good B&W films too. But as stated previously and as most of us would imagine, producing a good colour film takes more money and research, and my cencern is more in continued availability and price of colour films. Yes very true, colour film is more in danger than b&w, especially E6 slide film. Phil.

08-26-2012, 10:21 AM	#18
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by gofour3 Yes very true, colour film is more in danger than b&w, especially E6 slide film. Phil. I hope Portra makes it. They already merged the NC and VC.

08-26-2012, 12:16 PM	#19
rt22306 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 164	Still doing my part to keep it alive; shot two rolls of Tri-X yesterday, and have a dozen more rolls. Then I'll go and get some more, or maybe some T-Max when those are gone.

08-27-2012, 08:29 PM	#20
barondla Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: midwest, United States Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,717	Not sure about tubes used in guitar amps, but there is work going into Hi-fi tubes. thanks barondla

08-27-2012, 08:45 PM	#21
twitch Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4,571	If in 5 years I can still buy Portra 400 and Ektar 100 I'll be a happy man, I fear I'm heading for disappointment though.

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