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10-13-2012, 11:02 AM   #16
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Some pics!
Constructive critique is more than welcome!

Also, I would disagree that the value of lenses depreciate over time. Unlike cameras, good lenses are pretty safe and good investment.


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I suggest getting your law degree in addition to moving into pro shooting. Most of us pros have two or three different professions/abilities in case photography slows down.

As far as Pentax being the best value? It sure used to be and still is for most of its digital line. Its pricing on the 645D and the lenses made for it were a departure from this. The 645D using older 645 lenses is a better deal.

I have shot a number of weddings with my Pentax 6x7 ( yes with that wretched film) and have done quite well. It is an affordable pro camera. Although no longer in production, they are quite common. Their 645 is also affordable and pro quality. If you feel you have outgrown you current setup, consider these two.

Your portrait examples above are okay but putting the person off so far to the side of the frame is a bit strange, at least on the first two.

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I suggest getting your law degree in addition to moving into pro shooting. Most of us pros have two or three different professions/abilities in case photography slows down.

As far as Pentax being the best value? It sure used to be and still is for most of its digital line. Its pricing on the 645D and the lenses made for it were a departure from this. The 645D using older 645 lenses is a better deal.

I have shot a number of weddings with my Pentax 6x7 ( yes with that wretched film) and have done quite well. It is an affordable pro camera. Although no longer in production, they are quite common. Their 645 is also affordable and pro quality. If you feel you have outgrown you current setup, consider these two.

Your portrait examples above are okay but putting the person off so far to the side of the frame is a bit strange, at least on the first two.
Thanks for a comment!
Putting persons off to the sides is common newbie mistake. I was no exception.
As well as shooting only headshot or "belly to head" portraits. Newbies are usually afraid of wider angles, larger aperture settings, as it makes much more difficult to control the background behind your subject.
I will try not repeat these mistakes the next time I go shoot!
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QuoteOriginally posted by Apapukas Quote
Thanks for a comment!
Putting persons off to the sides is common newbie mistake. I was no exception.
As well as shooting only headshot or "belly to head" portraits. Newbies are usually afraid of wider angles, larger aperture settings, as it makes much more difficult to control the background behind your subject.
I will try not repeat these mistakes the next time I go shoot!
Don't overcorrect and center the subject too much!

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I could make a living with just the Tamron.
I'm seriously thinking of a new camera bag with the KIIs -Tamron 10-24, the Tamron 28-75 , which if you look on the DxO site is one of the highest rated lenses available for K-mount- and the Tamron 70-200 2.8.

Throw a Samyang 14. 2.8, a 31 Ltd, D FA 50 2.8 macro and a 77 ltd in there and that's heck of a camera bag.

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I'm seriously thinking of a new camera bag with the KIIs -Tamron 10-24, the Tamron 28-75 , which if you look on the DxO site is one of the highest rated lenses available for L-mount- and the Tamron 70-200 2.8.

Throw a Samyang 14. 2.8, a 31 Ltd, D FA 50 2.8 macro and a 77 ltd in there and that's heck of a camera bag.
Oui, oui, oui ... and now I'm jealous ... no, just kidding & let us know if DxO is right! - J -
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I'm seriously thinking of a new camera bag with the KIIs -Tamron 10-24, the Tamron 28-75 , which if you look on the DxO site is one of the highest rated lenses available for L-mount- and the Tamron 70-200 2.8.

Throw a Samyang 14. 2.8, a 31 Ltd, D FA 50 2.8 macro and a 77 ltd in there and that's heck of a camera bag.
I'm thinking about three primes setup. 70mm Ltd, 31 Ltd and ...... don't know yet, time will tell what I need
Currently I'm saving for 31 Ltd to get some wider angle, I believe it will be the best Christmas present ever

Also, why FA 50 2.8 instead of Sigma 50 1.4? They're pretty much the same price and Sigma is much faster, already sharp wide open (based on reviews) and has HSM.
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QuoteOriginally posted by desertscape Quote
Your portrait examples above are okay but putting the person off so far to the side of the frame is a bit strange, at least on the first two.
It is? They're magic imho. I only thought that I'm going to have to try that.

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Also, why FA 50 2.8 instead of Sigma 50 1.4? They're pretty much the same price and Sigma is much faster, already sharp wide open (based on reviews) and has HSM.
For me it's all about getting it done, and being able to carry it.
Tessfully and I "share" lenses and bodies, so, the K-5 and the Tamron 90- macro are pretty much hers. I don't have a good sharp macro lens. The 50 is small enough to fit nicely in my bag and go every where, fill the 50 mm "must have" gap in the lenses listed, and provide me with a nice sharp macro lens.

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Oui, oui, oui ... and now I'm jealous ... no, just kidding & let us know if DxO is right! - J -
Hey don't get me wrong, that's what I'd like to get. Whether or not things play out so I actually end up with it is another issue.

The K-5 IIs and the 28-75 are pretty much decided, after that, a lot of things can happen.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Apapukas Quote
Putting persons off to the sides is common newbie mistake. I was no exception.
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Just crop the aspect from 3:2 to 4:5 or 1:1 to salvage it.
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...Tessfully and I "share" lenses and bodies...
Normhead, I didn't know that you two were together. How does that work—are your shooting styles really different, just somewhat, or pretty much similar?
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Just crop the aspect from 3:2 to 4:5 or 1:1 to salvage it.
I believe there are two ways to crop.
Before the shoot with your eyes and camera and after the shoot with PC. Untill I can perfectly see the picture in my head before I press the shutter, "crop tool" in PS is more like "cheat tool"
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QuoteOriginally posted by Apapukas Quote
I believe there are two ways to crop.
... "crop tool" in PS is more like "cheat tool"
Nonsense on more than one level. So when you want BW do you shoot film, a Leica Monochrome or do you cheat and convert color to BW?

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Nonsense on more than one level. So when you want BW do you shoot film, a Leica Monochrome or do you cheat and convert color to BW?
These are two completely different examples
"Cropping with camera" forces you to think about the picture more, be more patient, more precise. As well as teaches you to see the picture in your head first.
Skipping all these steps and just using PC crop to corrent mistakes is the easy way. It looks tempting, but I don't believe I can really learn something going the easy way

Of course, don't get me wrong, I am not some "ban-crop-guy", crop as any other tool can be very handy. Main main point is that, untill you can perfectly crop with your camera, you should avoid PC crop, otherwise you skip a great deal of learning process.
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Main main point is that, untill you can perfectly crop with your camera, you should avoid PC crop, otherwise you skip a great deal of learning process.
Is that so.

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