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MRRiley · 01-02-2013, 06:45 AM

Photographer killed while trying to shoot Ferrari believed to belong to Justin Bieber - U.S. News

Is it really worth your life to get a photo of some celeb's CAR? DuOH!!!

ihasa · 01-02-2013, 06:59 AM

Urgh, nasty. The rewards for getting a saleable shot of a celeb are very high, I'm not surprised that from time to time a desperate paparazzi loses it in the heat of the moment, putting themselves (and others) in danger. The Princess Di car crash being a memorable example. Of course if people didn't buy the magazines that the pap's cater to, none of this would ever happen.

halfspin · 01-02-2013, 07:31 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by ihasa

Of course if people didn't buy the magazines that the pap's cater to, none of this would ever happen.

Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things.

treebeard · 01-02-2013, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by halfspin

Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things.

Well said.

Parallax · 01-02-2013, 08:39 AM

Forrest Gump said it best. Stupid is as stupid does.

Blue · 01-02-2013, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by halfspin

Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things.

I am fairly certain that that particular photographer is in fact cured from doing stupid stuff.

MRRiley · 01-02-2013, 11:25 AM

Justin Bieber calls for anti-paparazzi laws after photographer is killed - U.S. News

Trouble is, photographing anyone in public is legal... whether the subject is a celebrity or a pleeb... The police need to be enforcing existing general laws such as reckless driving or (in the case of this photographer) trespassing on a public highway or creating a traffic hazard.

Fogel70 · 01-02-2013, 11:28 AM

Is there any National Camera Association in US? They might not like this:

Originally posted by Justin Beiber:

Hopefully this tragedy will finally inspire meaningful legislation and whatever other necessary steps to protect the lives and safety of celebrities, police officers, innocent public bystanders and the photographers themselves.

ihasa · 01-02-2013, 12:08 PM

He has a point but it does ring a bit hollow. Cos maybe if Bieber didn't use his image so extensively to earn a living, there wouldn't be this constant interest in his pictures. I'm not saying this of Bieber, but a lot of these celebs tip off the paps when they want to get themselves in the papers.

MRRiley · 01-02-2013, 12:24 PM

My problem is they "want their cake and to eat it to." They want to be left alone when it suits them but want an audience when it suits them as well... My take. You're a celeb, you gotta take the bad with the good... Don't want to deal with the paps... stop performing and become a plumber in Moscow...

cabstar · 01-02-2013, 04:51 PM

That photo of Bieber being stopped by the police in his white Ferrari would have been worth more than 100 bucks quoted in that report. Sounds like he was the only tog there, he hadn't been following Bieber but merely stumbked across the scene.

Venturi · 01-02-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by MRRiley

My problem is they "want their cake and to eat it to." They want to be left alone when it suits them but want an audience when it suits them as well... My take. You're a celeb, you gotta take the bad with the good... Don't want to deal with the paps... stop performing and become a plumber in Moscow...

No, not really. They're occupation is as performers. Generally, they get paid for/when performing their craft, and when promoting their works, period.

When they're not "on stage" they're no different than you and me, and they are entitled to the same expectation of privacy that you and I enjoy. That the media hypes them up for commercial gain does not diminish their rights in any way.

Would you expect a Russian plumber to give free service? A lawyer? A doctor? A programmer? How about yourself, a photographer?

If you want artists to stop receiving special status, then stop giving them special privilege.

Sagitta · 01-02-2013, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by cabstar

That photo of Bieber being stopped by the police in his white Ferrari would have been worth more than 100 bucks quoted in that report. Sounds like he was the only tog there, he hadn't been following Bieber but merely stumbked across the scene.

Except he was shooting a friend of Biebers because Bieber wasn't even there. It was just some random dude in a Ferrari.

cabstar · 01-02-2013, 06:36 PM

Ah missed that bit, hmmm wouldn't be worth 100bucks then...

MRRiley · 01-03-2013, 04:50 AM

Originally posted by Venturi

No, not really. They're occupation is as performers. Generally, they get paid for/when performing their craft, and when promoting their works, period.

When they're not "on stage" they're no different than you and me, and they are entitled to the same expectation of privacy that you and I enjoy. That the media hypes them up for commercial gain does not diminish their rights in any way.

Would you expect a Russian plumber to give free service? A lawyer? A doctor? A programmer? How about yourself, a photographer?

If you want artists to stop receiving special status, then stop giving them special privilege.

Have to disagree... the vast majority of celebrities, particularly "performers" actively seek the "limelight." Regardless of this though... their expectation of privacy when out in public IS the same as everyone elses... NONE!

Free service??? Celebrities like Bieber make millions just by breathing... not true for the vast majority of plumbers, doctors, programmers or photographers.

01-02-2013, 06:45 AM	#1
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275	Being a paparazzi is dangerous Photographer killed while trying to shoot Ferrari believed to belong to Justin Bieber - U.S. News Is it really worth your life to get a photo of some celeb's CAR? DuOH!!!

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01-02-2013, 06:59 AM	#2
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	Urgh, nasty. The rewards for getting a saleable shot of a celeb are very high, I'm not surprised that from time to time a desperate paparazzi loses it in the heat of the moment, putting themselves (and others) in danger. The Princess Di car crash being a memorable example. Of course if people didn't buy the magazines that the pap's cater to, none of this would ever happen.

01-02-2013, 07:31 AM - 1 Like	#3
halfspin Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Photos: Gallery Posts: 258	Originally posted by ihasa Of course if people didn't buy the magazines that the pap's cater to, none of this would ever happen. Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things.

01-02-2013, 08:23 AM	#4
treebeard Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Windham, NH Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 793	Originally posted by halfspin Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things. Well said.

01-02-2013, 08:39 AM	#5
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Forrest Gump said it best. Stupid is as stupid does.

01-02-2013, 08:56 AM	#6
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Originally posted by halfspin Unfortunately there's no cure for being stupid and liking stupid things. I am fairly certain that that particular photographer is in fact cured from doing stupid stuff.

01-02-2013, 11:25 AM	#7
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275 Original Poster	Justin Bieber calls for anti-paparazzi laws after photographer is killed - U.S. News Trouble is, photographing anyone in public is legal... whether the subject is a celebrity or a pleeb... The police need to be enforcing existing general laws such as reckless driving or (in the case of this photographer) trespassing on a public highway or creating a traffic hazard.

01-02-2013, 11:28 AM	#8
Fogel70 Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Photos: Albums Posts: 3,062	Is there any National Camera Association in US? They might not like this: Originally posted by Justin Beiber: Hopefully this tragedy will finally inspire meaningful legislation and whatever other necessary steps to protect the lives and safety of celebrities, police officers, innocent public bystanders and the photographers themselves.

01-02-2013, 12:08 PM	#9
ihasa Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: West Midlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,066	He has a point but it does ring a bit hollow. Cos maybe if Bieber didn't use his image so extensively to earn a living, there wouldn't be this constant interest in his pictures. I'm not saying this of Bieber, but a lot of these celebs tip off the paps when they want to get themselves in the papers.

01-02-2013, 12:24 PM	#10
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275 Original Poster	My problem is they "want their cake and to eat it to." They want to be left alone when it suits them but want an audience when it suits them as well... My take. You're a celeb, you gotta take the bad with the good... Don't want to deal with the paps... stop performing and become a plumber in Moscow...

01-02-2013, 04:51 PM	#11
cabstar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grimsby UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 224	That photo of Bieber being stopped by the police in his white Ferrari would have been worth more than 100 bucks quoted in that report. Sounds like he was the only tog there, he hadn't been following Bieber but merely stumbked across the scene.

01-02-2013, 05:40 PM	#12
Venturi Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,636	Originally posted by MRRiley My problem is they "want their cake and to eat it to." They want to be left alone when it suits them but want an audience when it suits them as well... My take. You're a celeb, you gotta take the bad with the good... Don't want to deal with the paps... stop performing and become a plumber in Moscow... No, not really. They're occupation is as performers. Generally, they get paid for/when performing their craft, and when promoting their works, period. When they're not "on stage" they're no different than you and me, and they are entitled to the same expectation of privacy that you and I enjoy. That the media hypes them up for commercial gain does not diminish their rights in any way. Would you expect a Russian plumber to give free service? A lawyer? A doctor? A programmer? How about yourself, a photographer? If you want artists to stop receiving special status, then stop giving them special privilege.

01-02-2013, 05:49 PM	#13
Sagitta Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,081	Originally posted by cabstar That photo of Bieber being stopped by the police in his white Ferrari would have been worth more than 100 bucks quoted in that report. Sounds like he was the only tog there, he hadn't been following Bieber but merely stumbked across the scene. Except he was shooting a friend of Biebers because Bieber wasn't even there. It was just some random dude in a Ferrari.

01-02-2013, 06:36 PM	#14
cabstar Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Grimsby UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 224	Ah missed that bit, hmmm wouldn't be worth 100bucks then...

01-03-2013, 04:50 AM	#15
MRRiley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sterling, VA, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,275 Original Poster	Originally posted by Venturi No, not really. They're occupation is as performers. Generally, they get paid for/when performing their craft, and when promoting their works, period. When they're not "on stage" they're no different than you and me, and they are entitled to the same expectation of privacy that you and I enjoy. That the media hypes them up for commercial gain does not diminish their rights in any way. Would you expect a Russian plumber to give free service? A lawyer? A doctor? A programmer? How about yourself, a photographer? If you want artists to stop receiving special status, then stop giving them special privilege. Have to disagree... the vast majority of celebrities, particularly "performers" actively seek the "limelight." Regardless of this though... their expectation of privacy when out in public IS the same as everyone elses... NONE! Free service??? Celebrities like Bieber make millions just by breathing... not true for the vast majority of plumbers, doctors, programmers or photographers.

Being a paparazzi is dangerous

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