What Pentax needs to do...a simple, five step program

Cambo · 05-06-2013, 10:25 AM

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1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C
2) Make the logo on it BIGGER AND BRIGHTER than Canon or Nikon...think LED's...
3) bring out a FAST pro APS-C camera
4) Give a half dozen away to sports photographers and park them at the sidelines at football, baseball, and basketball games
5) Watch the profits roll in

That's why the current obsession in North American with Canon and Nikon, they're seen in sports.

Why don't they do this? Seems like a no brainer to me.

Cheers,
Cameron

PS: the K5 rules! What an amazing camera.

jogiba · 05-06-2013, 11:04 AM - **1 Like**

The chance of any Canon or Nikon full frame sports photographers switching to any APS-C Pentax DSLR is very slim and there are very few Pentax users who would pay $10,000+ for a 250-600 zoom like the old SMC Pentax-FA* 250-600mm F5.6 ED [IF] IMHO.

Kunzite · 05-06-2013, 11:13 AM

1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C
2) People will complain it's way too expensive.
End of story

Na Horuk · 05-06-2013, 11:22 AM

I agree with the publicity, though. Nikon rents out a lot of equipment and has a lot of service centres. Because of this, they are visible in all sorts of places, at media events, sports events, in journalism... And when someone is buying their first DSLR, they often think "hmm which of these brands do I know? Oh wait, I see that one at events all the time - it must be good." Pentax should work on their presence and image, taking back the "pro" and "artist" labels. Will be interesting to see what Ricoh does with Pentax, though. I think that by now they probably have a game plan set up and will start implementing it soon.

jogiba · 05-06-2013, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by Kunzite

1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C
2) People will complain it's way too expensive.
End of story

$10,000+ is too expensive for most Pentax APS-C shooters but not for full frame Canon or Nikon pro shooters. How many Pentax users here spent over $10,000 for a lens ?

Kunzite · 05-06-2013, 11:39 AM

But in order to get those full frame Canon or Nikon pro shooters to jump to Pentax, they will have to be given (for free) an equivalent setup to what they already have.
I'm not sure the effect will justify the effort/expense.

mrNewt · 05-06-2013, 11:43 AM - **3 Likes**

1) Decide already what path to follow
2) Actually make something...
3) Don't r**e your customers with overpriced products
4) Start advertising your products properly and bring them to actual stores where people can touch a Pentax camera
5) Watch sales go up

RonHendriks1966 · 05-06-2013, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Cambo

1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C
2) Make the logo on it BIGGER AND BRIGHTER than Canon or Nikon...think LED's...
3) bring out a FAST pro APS-C camera
4) Give a half dozen away to sports photographers and park them at the sidelines at football, baseball, and basketball games
5) Watch the profits roll in

PS: the K5 rules! What an amazing camera.

AD 1) Well there is no chance that any pro-sports-shooter will go out with a zoomlens that has f5.6 as fastest setting. No way that you do your work proparly.
AD 3) That is a good start, but pro's need a bigger sensor for their work to meet demands from sportsagency's. (Hey here's my APS-H opening).
AD 4) You can ship it to my home address.
AD 5) Don't count on it to fast, they first want to see results.

Medium FormatPro · 05-06-2013, 12:02 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Na Horuk

Pentax should work on their presence and image, taking back the "pro" and "artist" labels

One of the best selling cameras of all time; the Pentax K1000. Why not a current dslr of something such as this; as much manual as possible with perhaps match metering? If only Pentax could get the student cameras back again, they would be one step closer to their glory years

jogiba · 05-06-2013, 12:09 PM

Pentax could shake up the industry with a 1" sensor hybrid camera with fast F1.4-2.2 5x 28-140mm eqiv zoom capable of 80 fps and 4K video with a 3.9mp EVF (1280x960) .
Aptina creates faster 14MP 1" sensor capable of 80 fps and 4K video: Digital Photography Review

Citizen Finetech Miyota creates 3.69m dot equivalent EVF: Digital Photography Review

Sony RX200 Rumors: Pop-Up Viewfinder & 5x Zoom f/1.4 Lens

Bramela · 05-06-2013, 12:52 PM - **2 Likes**

It seems that more and more negative comments are appearing here concerning the present/future state of Pentax, and justifiably so. It is high time, or overdue, that Pentax/Ricoh step up and give some reassuring comments regarding the plans for Pentax cameras and associated equipment.
Their lack of such comments is eroding the loyalty of many Pentax users. With time passing, more and more seem to be jumping ship, and with that happening I can only say "what future?".
We show our loyalty and patience, how's about some reassuring positive feedback in return from Pentax.

jogiba · 05-06-2013, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by Medium FormatPro

One of the best selling cameras of all time; the Pentax K1000. Why not a current dslr of something such as this; as much manual as possible with perhaps match metering? If only Pentax could get the student cameras back again, they would be one step closer to their glory years

Back when the K1000 came out the three biggest names in US airlines were Eastern Airlines, Pan Am and TWA. They are history along with consumers interested in buying a camera like the K1000 with digital sensor ,no motor drive or AF etc. If you really like the K1000 then you could get them cheap today.
Pentax K1000 SLR Camera with 50mm Lens and Strap | eBay

**Kerrowdown** · 05-06-2013, 01:29 PM

Originally posted by Cambo

a simple, five step program

Better make it a six step program, and get a damned FF in there somewhere and soon.

**Canada_Rockies** · 05-06-2013, 02:50 PM

If Pentax wants pro photo business it needs a pro subscription service. No pro can afford to wait 4-6 weeks for a repair. 4-6 hours to ship the loaner is a painful loss of income.

Kunzite · 05-06-2013, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by Bramela

It is high time, or overdue, that Pentax/Ricoh step up and give some reassuring comments regarding the plans for Pentax cameras and associated equipment.

They already did that, several times. Apparently, it's useless - they're simply ignored

Pentax doesn't want the pro sports photo business; it's way too expensive to enter (giving away high-end products, while also offering top-notch service).

05-06-2013, 10:25 AM	#1
Cambo Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,016	What Pentax needs to do...a simple, five step program Staff note: This post may contain affiliate links, which means Pentax Forums may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. If you would like to support the forum directly, you may also make a donation here. 1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C 2) Make the logo on it BIGGER AND BRIGHTER than Canon or Nikon...think LED's... 3) bring out a FAST pro APS-C camera 4) Give a half dozen away to sports photographers and park them at the sidelines at football, baseball, and basketball games 5) Watch the profits roll in That's why the current obsession in North American with Canon and Nikon, they're seen in sports. Why don't they do this? Seems like a no brainer to me. Cheers, Cameron PS: the K5 rules! What an amazing camera.

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05-06-2013, 11:04 AM - 1 Like	#2
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	The chance of any Canon or Nikon full frame sports photographers switching to any APS-C Pentax DSLR is very slim and there are very few Pentax users who would pay $10,000+ for a 250-600 zoom like the old SMC Pentax-FA* 250-600mm F5.6 ED [IF] IMHO.

05-06-2013, 11:13 AM	#3
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C 2) People will complain it's way too expensive. End of story

05-06-2013, 11:22 AM	#4
Na Horuk Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Slovenia, probably Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 11,186	I agree with the publicity, though. Nikon rents out a lot of equipment and has a lot of service centres. Because of this, they are visible in all sorts of places, at media events, sports events, in journalism... And when someone is buying their first DSLR, they often think "hmm which of these brands do I know? Oh wait, I see that one at events all the time - it must be good." Pentax should work on their presence and image, taking back the "pro" and "artist" labels. Will be interesting to see what Ricoh does with Pentax, though. I think that by now they probably have a game plan set up and will start implementing it soon.

05-06-2013, 11:23 AM	#5
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Kunzite 1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C 2) People will complain it's way too expensive. End of story $10,000+ is too expensive for most Pentax APS-C shooters but not for full frame Canon or Nikon pro shooters. How many Pentax users here spent over $10,000 for a lens ?

05-06-2013, 11:39 AM	#6
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	But in order to get those full frame Canon or Nikon pro shooters to jump to Pentax, they will have to be given (for free) an equivalent setup to what they already have. I'm not sure the effect will justify the effort/expense.

05-06-2013, 11:43 AM - 3 Likes	#7
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	1) Decide already what path to follow 2) Actually make something... 3) Don't r**e your customers with overpriced products 4) Start advertising your products properly and bring them to actual stores where people can touch a Pentax camera 5) Watch sales go up

05-06-2013, 11:50 AM	#8
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Cambo 1) Bring back the 250-600 zoom in weatherproof APS-C 2) Make the logo on it BIGGER AND BRIGHTER than Canon or Nikon...think LED's... 3) bring out a FAST pro APS-C camera 4) Give a half dozen away to sports photographers and park them at the sidelines at football, baseball, and basketball games 5) Watch the profits roll in PS: the K5 rules! What an amazing camera. AD 1) Well there is no chance that any pro-sports-shooter will go out with a zoomlens that has f5.6 as fastest setting. No way that you do your work proparly. AD 3) That is a good start, but pro's need a bigger sensor for their work to meet demands from sportsagency's. (Hey here's my APS-H opening). AD 4) You can ship it to my home address. AD 5) Don't count on it to fast, they first want to see results.

05-06-2013, 12:02 PM - 1 Like	#9
Medium FormatPro Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Charleston & Pittsburgh Photos: Albums Posts: 1,668	Originally posted by Na Horuk Pentax should work on their presence and image, taking back the "pro" and "artist" labels One of the best selling cameras of all time; the Pentax K1000. Why not a current dslr of something such as this; as much manual as possible with perhaps match metering? If only Pentax could get the student cameras back again, they would be one step closer to their glory years

05-06-2013, 12:09 PM	#10
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Pentax could shake up the industry with a 1" sensor hybrid camera with fast F1.4-2.2 5x 28-140mm eqiv zoom capable of 80 fps and 4K video with a 3.9mp EVF (1280x960) . Aptina creates faster 14MP 1" sensor capable of 80 fps and 4K video: Digital Photography Review Citizen Finetech Miyota creates 3.69m dot equivalent EVF: Digital Photography Review Sony RX200 Rumors: Pop-Up Viewfinder & 5x Zoom f/1.4 Lens

05-06-2013, 12:52 PM - 2 Likes	#11
Bramela Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Newcastle Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,284	It seems that more and more negative comments are appearing here concerning the present/future state of Pentax, and justifiably so. It is high time, or overdue, that Pentax/Ricoh step up and give some reassuring comments regarding the plans for Pentax cameras and associated equipment. Their lack of such comments is eroding the loyalty of many Pentax users. With time passing, more and more seem to be jumping ship, and with that happening I can only say "what future?". We show our loyalty and patience, how's about some reassuring positive feedback in return from Pentax.

05-06-2013, 01:13 PM	#12
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by Medium FormatPro One of the best selling cameras of all time; the Pentax K1000. Why not a current dslr of something such as this; as much manual as possible with perhaps match metering? If only Pentax could get the student cameras back again, they would be one step closer to their glory years Back when the K1000 came out the three biggest names in US airlines were Eastern Airlines, Pan Am and TWA. They are history along with consumers interested in buying a camera like the K1000 with digital sensor ,no motor drive or AF etc. If you really like the K1000 then you could get them cheap today. Pentax K1000 SLR Camera with 50mm Lens and Strap \| eBay

05-06-2013, 01:29 PM	#13
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,835	Originally posted by Cambo a simple, five step program Better make it a six step program, and get a damned FF in there somewhere and soon.

05-06-2013, 02:50 PM	#14
Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	If Pentax wants pro photo business it needs a pro subscription service. No pro can afford to wait 4-6 weeks for a repair. 4-6 hours to ship the loaner is a painful loss of income.

05-06-2013, 02:59 PM	#15
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Bramela It is high time, or overdue, that Pentax/Ricoh step up and give some reassuring comments regarding the plans for Pentax cameras and associated equipment. They already did that, several times. Apparently, it's useless - they're simply ignored Pentax doesn't want the pro sports photo business; it's way too expensive to enter (giving away high-end products, while also offering top-notch service).