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nosliwmit · 05-10-2013, 04:02 PM

Well, better to rant here than climb a clock-tower somewhere and start shooting people... "Shallow depth of field, huh, well I'll show you shallow--take this: POW! Who's next? Oh, hey, Bokeh this, skate punk!"

top-quark · 05-10-2013, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by steppenfuchs

Dude needs to get laid or something.

I stopped wasting my time right after the "street photography" chapter, where dude indirectly calls HCB "morally corrupt".

Dude...

Is there an unlike button?

It took me a while. I thought "HCB" was some kind of technique that I'd not heard of. Henri Cartier Bresson, of course. For all I know, he might have staged his shots: "Psst, kid, here's a franc. Just carry these two big bottles of wine up this hill. And smile.".

The attitude "I am an artist so the rules of common decency do not apply to me" is a high-handed one that gets my back up. In most places in most countries you are breaking no laws if you photograph whatever or whoever you please. That does not necessarily mean that you are not violating social mores. Is a drunk passed out an acceptable subject? Only if he's a friend and you'll laugh about it together later. Or, my personal least favourite subject, unfortunate people wallowing in misery? Only if your purpose is journalistic and you obtain consent first.

top-quark · 05-10-2013, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by Parallax

I agree with the premise here regarding the term FF, but how is that accurate? 35mm film is called 35mm because it is 35mm wide. i.e 35mm tall with the image area being 24mm tall. A, excuse the expression, FF sensor is 24mm tall, so where does the 35mm come in to play?

Thank you for that information. We still talk about 35mm cameras but I never realized that referred to the vertical dimension of the film strip.

stormtech · 05-10-2013, 05:10 PM

I agree with some, and disagree with others, but did enjoy reading your rant.

The only thing that popped into my mind right away is in addition to your "Street Photography" rant. It seems that many people but a $1K+ camera, turn it to capture B&W, and shoot everything that way in city/urban settings. I just don't get it. While some images may benefit with a B&W treatment, where is the color?

steppenfuchs · 05-10-2013, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by top-quark

It took me a while. I thought "HCB" was some kind of technique that I'd not heard of. Henri Cartier Bresson, of course.

I did the acronymization on purpose, to get even about time wasting.

**dadipentak** · 05-10-2013, 06:47 PM - **1 Like**

Also too:

1. Posts that start with the word, "The."

2. Posts that are too long or too short.

3. Photos with a lot of orange in them.

4. Mispelllings.

Parallax · 05-10-2013, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by dadipentak

4. Mispelllings.

Hey, anybody can make a misnake once in a while.

scratchpaddy · 05-10-2013, 07:15 PM - **2 Likes**

There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me.

"I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10."

"Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!"

"I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10"

"I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8."

"i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

**Bear** · 05-10-2013, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by scratchpaddy

There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me.

"I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10."

"Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!"

"I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10"

"I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8."

"i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

Ditto!

**Digitalis** · 05-10-2013, 08:32 PM

Quite a rant there...

The thing I really hate it when Lens is spelled as Lense - I really could strangle people who do that with their own intestines.

**jatrax** · 05-10-2013, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by scratchpaddy

there are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "i don't have this lens, but i've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "i bought this lens on ebay but it was broke. I am so mad i must type in all caps. Avoid this lens at all cost. 1/10" "i think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! I've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

roflmao

aurele · 05-11-2013, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by scratchpaddy

There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me.

"I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10."

"Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!"

"I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10"

"I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8."

"i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

a button "report this post" is indeed missing in the review section

top-quark · 05-11-2013, 01:57 AM

Originally posted by Digitalis

Quite a rant there...

The thing I really hate is when Lens is spelled as Lense - I really could strangle people who do that with their own intestines.

Me too (well, not the "strangle with intestines" bit - that's reserved for people who bang on about equivalence). It's not as though there aren't plenty of correctly spelt examples of the word to point them in the right direction.

ppppsssstttt · 05-11-2013, 05:33 AM

Originally posted by scratchpaddy

There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me.

"I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10."

"Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!"

"I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10"

"I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8."

"i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

+1 to that scratchpaddy.

On the opposite side of "creamy bokeh", "sharp as tack/tak" bugs me for some reason.

I think 35mm equivalent is useful though. I think there needs to be a common reference point when talking about different sized sensors. For example, how do you explain to someone different field of views?

**Kerrowdown** · 05-11-2013, 12:11 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by top-quark

Photography-related phrases that I've grown to hate

Nothing like a happy man, much like yourself doing street photography, using his portrait, crippled mount lens @ F1.2 for creamy bokeh on his equivalent, Full Frame, Canikon,Toy Camera.

Here all used in no specific order.

05-10-2013, 08:32 PM	#25
Digitalis Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Melbourne, Victoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,695	Quite a rant there... The thing I really hate it when Lens is spelled as Lense - I really could strangle people who do that with their own intestines. Last edited by Digitalis; 05-11-2013 at 03:17 AM.

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05-10-2013, 04:02 PM	#16
nosliwmit Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pacific Northwest Photos: Gallery Posts: 913	Well, better to rant here than climb a clock-tower somewhere and start shooting people... "Shallow depth of field, huh, well I'll show you shallow--take this: POW! Who's next? Oh, hey, Bokeh this, skate punk!"

05-10-2013, 04:13 PM	#17
top-quark Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Aylesbury, Bucks Photos: Albums Posts: 492 Original Poster	Originally posted by steppenfuchs Dude needs to get laid or something. I stopped wasting my time right after the "street photography" chapter, where dude indirectly calls HCB "morally corrupt". Dude... Is there an unlike button? It took me a while. I thought "HCB" was some kind of technique that I'd not heard of. Henri Cartier Bresson, of course. For all I know, he might have staged his shots: "Psst, kid, here's a franc. Just carry these two big bottles of wine up this hill. And smile.". The attitude "I am an artist so the rules of common decency do not apply to me" is a high-handed one that gets my back up. In most places in most countries you are breaking no laws if you photograph whatever or whoever you please. That does not necessarily mean that you are not violating social mores. Is a drunk passed out an acceptable subject? Only if he's a friend and you'll laugh about it together later. Or, my personal least favourite subject, unfortunate people wallowing in misery? Only if your purpose is journalistic and you obtain consent first.

05-10-2013, 04:24 PM	#18
top-quark Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Aylesbury, Bucks Photos: Albums Posts: 492 Original Poster	Originally posted by Parallax I agree with the premise here regarding the term FF, but how is that accurate? 35mm film is called 35mm because it is 35mm wide. i.e 35mm tall with the image area being 24mm tall. A, excuse the expression, FF sensor is 24mm tall, so where does the 35mm come in to play? Thank you for that information. We still talk about 35mm cameras but I never realized that referred to the vertical dimension of the film strip.

05-10-2013, 05:10 PM	#19
stormtech Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: In the boonies (NW Penna) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,744	I agree with some, and disagree with others, but did enjoy reading your rant. The only thing that popped into my mind right away is in addition to your "Street Photography" rant. It seems that many people but a $1K+ camera, turn it to capture B&W, and shoot everything that way in city/urban settings. I just don't get it. While some images may benefit with a B&W treatment, where is the color?

05-10-2013, 06:06 PM	#20
steppenfuchs Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Raincity Posts: 49	Originally posted by top-quark It took me a while. I thought "HCB" was some kind of technique that I'd not heard of. Henri Cartier Bresson, of course. I did the acronymization on purpose, to get even about time wasting.

05-10-2013, 06:47 PM - 1 Like	#21
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Also too: 1. Posts that start with the word, "The." 2. Posts that are too long or too short. 3. Photos with a lot of orange in them. 4. Mispelllings.

05-10-2013, 06:54 PM	#22
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by dadipentak 4. Mispelllings. Hey, anybody can make a misnake once in a while.

05-10-2013, 07:15 PM - 2 Likes	#23
scratchpaddy Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Phoenix Posts: 3,361	There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10" "I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10."

05-10-2013, 08:31 PM	#24
Bear Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Orange Park, FL Photos: Albums Posts: 158	Originally posted by scratchpaddy There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10" "I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10." Ditto!

05-10-2013, 08:46 PM	#26
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,992	Originally posted by scratchpaddy there are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "i don't have this lens, but i've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "i bought this lens on ebay but it was broke. I am so mad i must type in all caps. Avoid this lens at all cost. 1/10" "i think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! I've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10." roflmao

05-11-2013, 01:31 AM	#27
aurele Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Paris, France Photos: Albums Posts: 3,217	Originally posted by scratchpaddy There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10" "I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10." a button "report this post" is indeed missing in the review section

05-11-2013, 01:57 AM	#28
top-quark Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Aylesbury, Bucks Photos: Albums Posts: 492 Original Poster	Originally posted by Digitalis Quite a rant there... The thing I really hate is when Lens is spelled as Lense - I really could strangle people who do that with their own intestines. Me too (well, not the "strangle with intestines" bit - that's reserved for people who bang on about equivalence). It's not as though there aren't plenty of correctly spelt examples of the word to point them in the right direction.

05-11-2013, 05:33 AM	#29
ppppsssstttt Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 152	Originally posted by scratchpaddy There are a lot of less-than-helpful reviews in the lens database that kind of annoy me. "I don't have this lens, but I've heard it's not very sharp. 1/10." "Nice bokeh! Look at this flower. 10/10!" "I BOUGHT THIS LENS ON EBAY BUT IT WAS BROKE. I AM SO MAD I MUST TYPE IN ALL CAPS. AVOID THIS LENS AT ALL COST. 1/10" "I think this is a great lens, but people rate it too highly. I'm rating it 5/10 to offset their inflated score, but it's really a solid 8." "i really like this lens!!! i've only had it for an hour, but i took a picture of this flower and it's amazing!!!!! 10/10." +1 to that scratchpaddy. On the opposite side of "creamy bokeh", "sharp as tack/tak" bugs me for some reason. I think 35mm equivalent is useful though. I think there needs to be a common reference point when talking about different sized sensors. For example, how do you explain to someone different field of views?

05-11-2013, 12:11 PM - 1 Like	#30
Kerrowdown PEG Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Highlands of Scotland... "Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand" - William Blake Photos: Gallery Posts: 57,867	Originally posted by top-quark Photography-related phrases that I've grown to hate Nothing like a happy man, much like yourself doing street photography, using his portrait, crippled mount lens @ F1.2 for creamy bokeh on his equivalent, Full Frame, Canikon,Toy Camera. Here all used in no specific order.