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07-29-2013, 10:13 AM   #1
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38 MP Phone Camera!!

hopefully they make this sensor in APS-C version for Pentax....lol

41-megapixel camera on Lumia 1020 phone is jaw-dropping | Business & Technology | The Seattle Times

I dug this up from nokia's website

http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia1020/specifications/?category=photography#

its a 1/1.5" sensor... isn't that the same size as the q?
image produced is 7712x5360 pixels
image stabilization etc etc


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So, how large is the sensor? If they make a 40MP-sensor smaller than APS-C, hell, possibly even smaller than full frame, it’s just some gimmick.
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If it doesn't come in different colors, Ricoh is not interested.
Megapixels? Ricoh is interested in Mega-Pantone!
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Why would it be some gimmick?

I was ready an article where the theoretical MP limit of an APS-C sensor is somewhere in excess of 200 MP

it was interesting to read some of the tech specs, including a mention of "oversampling" and other things I've never heard of another camera doing

The question is, if Nokia can do it, why can't Pentax. Nikon and Cannon won't be far behind in the MP wars for sure.

With such a great pixel density, a 40 MP APS-C sensor would produce awesome images

now all we need is a phone with interchangeable lenses, or maybe someone can build a phone into the K5? Make it compactable? with all this new technology like they use on laptops that makes everything flexible, why not?...lol


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This news has been out for quite a while, I remember hearing about it back in November. At that time they were talking about a $500 price tag too.

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QuoteOriginally posted by NaClH2O Quote
This news has been out for quite a while, I remember hearing about it back in November. At that time they were talking about a $500 price tag too.

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QuoteOriginally posted by nomadkng Quote
Why would it be some gimmick?
I was ready an article where the theoretical MP limit of an APS-C sensor is somewhere in excess of 200 MP
This would be somewhat gimmicky because of the details drowning in diffraction blur. That blur is, because light spreads out from small apertures like wobbly waves rather than straight photons (apologies for this over-symplified explanation )

For our APSC-DSLRs, this diffraction blur starts smearing details, proportional to apertures becoming smaller than say F/8. The higher the pixel density, the smaler the pixel sensor sites, and the earlier the diffraction blur eradicates the resolution gain. With a 200 MP sensor, the sensor sites would be 3-4 times smaller (per each dimension), so diffraction blur would kick in from F2.8 or so.

That's the reason why people still spend good money for FF and medium format, where the sensor sites' size don't have to fall below a certain threshold for allowing a high resolution.

That's also the explanation, why small P&S cams with their small high-density sensors often don't have an aperture mechanism at all, but a grey ND filter(s) mechanism instead.

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For those still wondering, the sensor is 1/1.5 inches (the same as a 2/3" one if I’m not mistaken). That is, it seems, remarkably small, yet larger than most other smartphones. In my opinion that is no more than a gimmick, and almost detrimental to the images. 16MP would be enough and some more, IMO.



For a comparison.

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It's no gimmick. Here's an article from one of our own on last years Nokia 808, I asusme the tech has not got any worse in the past year or so... Falk Lumo: The iCamera (Nokia 808 Pureview) Part I
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It is perhaps an improvement of phone cameras in general, but I think it’s rather obvious that it is affected by the amount of pixels.
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