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ASheffield · 10-04-2013, 02:05 PM

My dad keeps asking me to explain the difference between some of the different Pentaxes. He thinks the K in the name makes it the same camera. When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why. I should add that he asked me why the K-30 was better than the X-5. So, how do I explain this to someone who doesn't know the difference between point and shoots and DSLRs?

normhead · 10-04-2013, 02:14 PM

For once I'm speechless. OK, not quite... In that case, tell him K is better than X. After all what's better? Special K, or brand X ?

**crewl1** · 10-04-2013, 02:14 PM

Use what he is into as a parallel.
Maybe he is into cars and you can compare a tiny economy compact to a large luxury car or a sports car or a racing car, etc.
Have him explain what makes those things different in his view, and use parallels to photography topics such as interchangeable lenses, frames per second, sensor sizes, degree of control by the photographer, etc.
Cars all get you from A to Z, and cameras all make pictures, right?

**mattt** · 10-04-2013, 02:15 PM

Better is relative - based on the value of various features. What might be better for you might not be for him.

Framed in sales speak: "features and benefits". What does he care about WR bodies and lenses if he doesn't chase kids around the soccer pitch? Who cares about backwards compatibility if the user will never have any other lens than the kit zoom.

I'm sure you can appreciate some of his needs and discuss with him features that would've of value to him.

**Ash** · 10-04-2013, 02:18 PM

A lot of things become apparent when your father actually goes out to test drive these cameras.

**jatrax** · 10-04-2013, 02:19 PM

With my dad I just tell him I'm not smart enough to explain it so he just has to trust me.

normhead · 10-04-2013, 02:23 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by jatrax

With my dad I just tell him I'm not smart enough to explain it so he just has to trust me.

If my son ever says something to me like that I'll slap him silly.

SpecialK · 10-04-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by normhead

After all what's better? Special K, or brand X ?

SpecialK :-)

Tell him the bigger sensor will not be so grainy in lower light. Interchangeable lenses allow different looks. Some bodies can shoot faster than others.

Leave it at that.

Joel B · 10-04-2013, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by normhead

If my son ever says something to me like that I'll slap him silly.

Physical discipline!!!!

Actually it's my children telling me I'm smarter than I look!!(not really a compliment) Then I usually threaten to rip their lips off!

normhead · 10-04-2013, 03:16 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by SpecialK

SpecialK :-)

Tell him the bigger sensor will not be so grainy in lower light. Interchangeable lenses allow different looks. Some bodies can shoot faster than others.

Leave it at that.

Because bigger is always better.... wise words

Originally posted by Joel B

Physical discipline!!!!

Actually it's my children telling me I'm smarter than I look!!(not really a compliment) Then I usually threaten to rip their lips off!

Mark Twain : When i was 15 I couldn't believe how dumb my father was, when I was 21 I couldn't believe how much he'd learned in just 6 years.

**jatrax** · 10-04-2013, 04:23 PM

Originally posted by normhead

Mark Twain : When i was 15 I couldn't believe how dumb my father was, when I was 21 I couldn't believe how much he'd learned in just 6 years.

Words to live by. My dad is 85 now and I think I might be catching up to him as I think he's slowed down a bit the last couple of years.....

jogiba · 10-04-2013, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by ASheffield

My dad keeps asking me to explain the difference between some of the different Pentaxes. He thinks the K in the name makes it the same camera. When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why. I should add that he asked me why the K-30 was better than the X-5. So, how do I explain this to someone who doesn't know the difference between point and shoots and DSLRs?

Show him the X-5 vs K-30 @6400iso .
click here to view

p38arover · 10-04-2013, 09:41 PM

Originally posted by SpecialK

SpecialK :-)

Doctors at my local hospital told me SpecialK is the name on the street for the drug ketamine.

wildman · 10-06-2013, 02:57 AM

Originally posted by ASheffield

When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why.

Your Dad is a wise man.

"Better" for what purpose?
After all a chain saw is not necessarily "better" than a scalpel nor is my K5 better than my Canon S95 only different for a different purpose.

**crewl1** · 10-06-2013, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by p38arover

Doctors at my local hospital told me SpecialK is the name on the street for the drug ketamine.

Doctors, what do they know bout Pentax cameras?

10-04-2013, 02:05 PM	#1
ASheffield Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina, USA Photos: Albums Posts: 329	How to explain thing to people who don't speak photography. My dad keeps asking me to explain the difference between some of the different Pentaxes. He thinks the K in the name makes it the same camera. When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why. I should add that he asked me why the K-30 was better than the X-5. So, how do I explain this to someone who doesn't know the difference between point and shoots and DSLRs?

10-06-2013, 02:57 AM	#14
wildman Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Flyover America Posts: 4,469	Originally posted by ASheffield When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why. Your Dad is a wise man. "Better" for what purpose? After all a chain saw is not necessarily "better" than a scalpel nor is my K5 better than my Canon S95 only different for a different purpose. Last edited by wildman; 10-06-2013 at 03:04 AM.

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10-04-2013, 02:14 PM	#2
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	For once I'm speechless. OK, not quite... In that case, tell him K is better than X. After all what's better? Special K, or brand X ?

10-04-2013, 02:14 PM	#3
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Use what he is into as a parallel. Maybe he is into cars and you can compare a tiny economy compact to a large luxury car or a sports car or a racing car, etc. Have him explain what makes those things different in his view, and use parallels to photography topics such as interchangeable lenses, frames per second, sensor sizes, degree of control by the photographer, etc. Cars all get you from A to Z, and cameras all make pictures, right?

10-04-2013, 02:15 PM	#4
mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	Better is relative - based on the value of various features. What might be better for you might not be for him. Framed in sales speak: "features and benefits". What does he care about WR bodies and lenses if he doesn't chase kids around the soccer pitch? Who cares about backwards compatibility if the user will never have any other lens than the kit zoom. I'm sure you can appreciate some of his needs and discuss with him features that would've of value to him.

10-04-2013, 02:18 PM	#5
Ash Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toowoomba, Queensland Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,920	A lot of things become apparent when your father actually goes out to test drive these cameras.

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jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	With my dad I just tell him I'm not smart enough to explain it so he just has to trust me.

10-04-2013, 02:23 PM - 1 Like	#7
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by jatrax With my dad I just tell him I'm not smart enough to explain it so he just has to trust me. If my son ever says something to me like that I'll slap him silly.

10-04-2013, 03:04 PM	#8
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,482	Originally posted by normhead After all what's better? Special K, or brand X ? SpecialK :-) Tell him the bigger sensor will not be so grainy in lower light. Interchangeable lenses allow different looks. Some bodies can shoot faster than others. Leave it at that.

10-04-2013, 03:05 PM	#9
Joel B Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Barnett MO. Photos: Albums Posts: 2,336	Originally posted by normhead If my son ever says something to me like that I'll slap him silly. Physical discipline!!!! Actually it's my children telling me I'm smarter than I look!!(not really a compliment) Then I usually threaten to rip their lips off!

10-04-2013, 03:16 PM - 1 Like	#10
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by SpecialK SpecialK :-) Tell him the bigger sensor will not be so grainy in lower light. Interchangeable lenses allow different looks. Some bodies can shoot faster than others. Leave it at that. Because bigger is always better.... wise words Originally posted by Joel B Physical discipline!!!! Actually it's my children telling me I'm smarter than I look!!(not really a compliment) Then I usually threaten to rip their lips off! Mark Twain : When i was 15 I couldn't believe how dumb my father was, when I was 21 I couldn't believe how much he'd learned in just 6 years.

10-04-2013, 04:23 PM	#11
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by normhead Mark Twain : When i was 15 I couldn't believe how dumb my father was, when I was 21 I couldn't believe how much he'd learned in just 6 years. Words to live by. My dad is 85 now and I think I might be catching up to him as I think he's slowed down a bit the last couple of years.....

10-04-2013, 06:45 PM	#12
jogiba Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Millstone,NJ Posts: 6,491	Originally posted by ASheffield My dad keeps asking me to explain the difference between some of the different Pentaxes. He thinks the K in the name makes it the same camera. When I tell him that one is better than the other, he asks why. I should add that he asked me why the K-30 was better than the X-5. So, how do I explain this to someone who doesn't know the difference between point and shoots and DSLRs? Show him the X-5 vs K-30 @6400iso . click here to view

10-04-2013, 09:41 PM	#13
p38arover Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Western Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,084	Originally posted by SpecialK SpecialK :-) Doctors at my local hospital told me SpecialK is the name on the street for the drug ketamine.

10-06-2013, 07:30 AM	#15
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Originally posted by p38arover Doctors at my local hospital told me SpecialK is the name on the street for the drug ketamine. Doctors, what do they know bout Pentax cameras?

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