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**Just1MoreDave** · 11-06-2013, 12:37 PM

The Nikon has one retro feature that Pentax should borrow: it can use pre-Ai lenses. I don't know what that means in Nikon terms but Pentax could do something similar.

Retro is kind of a trap. Where do you stop, and is it just a gimmick?

Removing video would appeal to some. I have no objection to having video but have absolutely no video talent.

fuent104 · 11-06-2013, 01:40 PM

I may be in the minority, but I prefer the tactile experience of shooting with my k1000 and my ZX-5n to my K20D and my k-x.

Kunzite · 11-06-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by Just1MoreDave

The Nikon has one retro feature that Pentax should borrow: it can use pre-Ai lenses. I don't know what that means in Nikon terms but Pentax could do something similar.

There are no "pre-AI" Pentax lenses. There are the K/M lenses, which can be used in an easier way than pre-AI on the Df, and you don't have to pay $3000 for that.
You are asking for Pentax to make using K/M lenses harder.

Cynog Ap Brychan · 11-06-2013, 02:13 PM

I wonder if in 30 years Nikon will issue a "retro" camera looking a bit like the D800, but without the holographic field focussing 3D image engine?

Apparently, according to Thom Hogan, pre-orders for the Df are above those of the D600 when it was first announced, so it must appeal to someone.

**monochrome** · 11-06-2013, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by feishui

pentex doesn't have in-lens stable system, so in-camera stable system is a must. However to move a full-frame sensor around is not a small deal. It has never been tested by the market and it could be super expensive, and can make the camera very thick, heavy, and vulnerable, and there won't be any profit. So why would pentax bother to make such a full frame camera?

Maybe their engineers have figured out something you and I don't know yet. WOTS is we'll know the answer to your question in about a year.

Kunzite · 11-06-2013, 04:49 PM

The next post to the one you quoted mentioned the A99 - a "full frame" camera with in-body stabilization. The third such model made by Sony, actually, because A900 and A850 also had in-body stabilization.

Sony did it, yet for Pentax somehow it's supposed to be impossible and "never been tested by the market"

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11-06-2013, 12:37 PM	#31
Just1MoreDave Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Aurora, CO Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,340	The Nikon has one retro feature that Pentax should borrow: it can use pre-Ai lenses. I don't know what that means in Nikon terms but Pentax could do something similar. Retro is kind of a trap. Where do you stop, and is it just a gimmick? Removing video would appeal to some. I have no objection to having video but have absolutely no video talent.

11-06-2013, 01:40 PM	#32
fuent104 Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: California Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,356	I may be in the minority, but I prefer the tactile experience of shooting with my k1000 and my ZX-5n to my K20D and my k-x.

11-06-2013, 02:08 PM	#33
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by Just1MoreDave The Nikon has one retro feature that Pentax should borrow: it can use pre-Ai lenses. I don't know what that means in Nikon terms but Pentax could do something similar. There are no "pre-AI" Pentax lenses. There are the K/M lenses, which can be used in an easier way than pre-AI on the Df, and you don't have to pay $3000 for that. You are asking for Pentax to make using K/M lenses harder.

11-06-2013, 02:13 PM	#34
Cynog Ap Brychan Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Gloucester Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,199	I wonder if in 30 years Nikon will issue a "retro" camera looking a bit like the D800, but without the holographic field focussing 3D image engine? Apparently, according to Thom Hogan, pre-orders for the Df are above those of the D600 when it was first announced, so it must appeal to someone.

11-06-2013, 02:14 PM	#35
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by feishui pentex doesn't have in-lens stable system, so in-camera stable system is a must. However to move a full-frame sensor around is not a small deal. It has never been tested by the market and it could be super expensive, and can make the camera very thick, heavy, and vulnerable, and there won't be any profit. So why would pentax bother to make such a full frame camera? Maybe their engineers have figured out something you and I don't know yet. WOTS is we'll know the answer to your question in about a year.

11-06-2013, 04:49 PM	#36
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	The next post to the one you quoted mentioned the A99 - a "full frame" camera with in-body stabilization. The third such model made by Sony, actually, because A900 and A850 also had in-body stabilization. Sony did it, yet for Pentax somehow it's supposed to be impossible and "never been tested by the market"

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