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12-27-2013, 07:41 AM - 1 Like   #1
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2013 Japan Camera sales report from BCN

BCN Ranking has just published their summary of the Japanese camera market. It represents 40% of retailers and is sales to end customers, not shipments to retailers. It's quite upbeat in general because the overall industry sales are up this time.

The ranking tables can be seen if you scroll down from this link.
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DSLR
- By manufacturer: Canon 49.2%, Nikon 42.5%, Pentax 5.2%, Sony 3.1%
- The only Pentax in the top 20 is the K-30 in 11th place with 3.4 percent.
- The K-50, K-5 series and K-3 are out of the ranking, but bring Pentax’s total share to 5.2%, which is a bit better than 2012.
- Meanwhile, Sony dropped from over 6% in 2012 to just 3.1% this year.
- Full frame still accounts for less than 10% of the top 20.

Mirrorless
- By manufacturer: Olympus 29.1%, Sony 26.4%, Panasonic 14.2%, Pentax 9.8%, Nikon 9.34%, Canon 9.25%
- Sony overtook Panasonic this year.
- Pentax overtook Nikon this year.
- Pentax share went up from 7.1 % in 2012 to 9.8%, but this was all Q, with no contribution from the K-01, which ranked last year.
- No Fuji models made the ranking at all.
- Same as last year, there are very few EVF models in the ranking. Of course it has to do with cost, but it seems the Japanese are not prepared to pay extra for a viewfinder.

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Looks pretty good to me -- highest ranking Pentax has probably had since the kx was released.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JPT Quote
Of course it has to do with cost, but it seems the Japanese are not prepared to pay extra for a viewfinder.
It suggests to me that the Japanese are buying VF-less mirrorless as an upgrade from P&S, rather than a DSLR replacement. I find it difficult to regard a VF-less camera as a serious threat to DSLRs. Also keep in mind: many of the VF-less mirrorless cameras were involved in various firesales, costing companies like Olympus, Panasonic, and Sony millions of dollars. These sales reports seem to confirm that the trend toward mirrorless has been oversold, even in Asia.

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The #1 selling camera in Japan is the iPhone.
HTC overtakes Samsung in smartphone sales in Japan - Android Authority
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Phones should not be considered in the same group as interchangeable lens cameras - i.e. tools made for photography. If you wish, you could put them together with compacts, though that's not something I would do.
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All the sadder, that a tool which is not made for photography (and photography isn't even its main function)(smartphone) is a more popular photographic tool then the tools exclusively made for photography.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
All the sadder, that a tool which is not made for photography (and photography isn't even its main function)(smartphone) is a more popular photographic tool then the tools exclusively made for photography.
It isn't sad at all. I wonder what telephone sales were versus 35mm camera sales in the 1970s? Smart phones, while they are used to take photos are not purchased with photography as a primary or an even secondary purpose. As Kunzite says, they shouldn't be lumped in with any of the camera categories.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Clavius Quote
All the sadder, that a tool which is not made for photography (and photography isn't even its main function)(smartphone) is a more popular photographic tool then the tools exclusively made for photography.
I wonder what portion of the
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sales market goes to smartphones.

All the sadder all those sales go to a device that does nothing well and so much so blandly.
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Sales of Swiss Army Knives certainly are larger in number than sales of specialist chef knives.
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A thread with positive news about Pentax/Ricoh Imaging is being hijacked towards "smartphone rules"; and I'm not surprised to see who is doing it.

By the way, I'm using my smartphone as a mobile phone, for web browsing, email reading, as a GPS, alarm clock, ebook reader, media player, gaming console. I'm not using it to take pictures.
And while compacts are 2.77 times more popular than DSLRs and MILCs combined, this proves absolutely nothing. This topic is about ILCs.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Kunzite Quote
A thread with positive news about Pentax/Ricoh Imaging is being hijacked towards "smartphone rules"; and I'm not surprised to see who is doing it.

By the way, I'm using my smartphone as a mobile phone, for web browsing, email reading, as a GPS, alarm clock, ebook reader, media player, gaming console. I'm not using it to take pictures.
And while compacts are 2.77 times more popular than DSLRs and MILCs combined, this proves absolutely nothing. This topic is about ILCs.
Really ? You must be the only person on the planet that refuses to take photos with your smartphone. Do you always carry your "real camera" also when you leave your home ?
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I'm not taking pictures every time I'm leaving my home; but if I did, yes, I would carry my trusty DSLR with me.
I'm not interested in putting pictures with my lunch on Facebook, either. I guess some people might think I'm a bit odd... not that I care.

This is all interesting (NOT!), but should we go back to the topic? Unless there's a good reason why the topic should be avoided?
For example, I find this chart interesting:
http://bcnranking.jp/news/gallery/1312/131227_27056p5.html
First (on the left) is about units; compacts are grey, DSLRs the darker green and the MILCs, pale green. So the MILCs couldn't surpass DSLRs, even in Japan (which is the most MILC-friendly market).
But the next chart (on the right) is truly interesting: in value, the DSLRs reach a significantly higher percentage than MILCs; 42.4% vs. 17.9%.

The numbers are more or less in line with CIPA's.

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