Originally posted by Paul the Sunman A $6500 lens isn't going to do many of US any good, apart from giving us a warm fuzzy feeling that we're tied into a PROFESSIONAL system. I want better IQ and reach than the 55-300, but a fast constant aperture is probably too much to realistically hope for, especially at any sort of sensible size.
I'm apparently not communicating well because I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree that a consumer 400mm zoom is necessary, and both Nikon and Canon have had them for a while to great success. But I'm thinking long term and the secondary and tertiary effects of the pro f/4 zoom. Here's the difference as I see it
long term.
- HD DA 135-380mm f/4-5.6 DC WR (MSRP $1999?)
- Purchased by few current Pentax system owners
- Not seen as overly tempting to the majority of Canikon observers watching Pentax
- Little change in overall market share perception of the brand/K-mount system
- HD D FA * 135-380 f/4 ED DC [IF] AW (MSRP $6499, free HD 1.4x AW TC bundled when purchased new)
- Purchased by very, very few current Pentax system owners
- Immediately grabs attention of entire professional sport and wildlife photography industry
- Many rent the combination to "give this and the K-3 a whirl"
- Fall in love - new Crop Sensor King declared among professional shooters for both body and lens - "Canikon has abandoned the pro crop shooter, Pentax has answered our pleas"
- Purchase the K-3 + 135-380 f/4 for professional use
- "I wonder how the K-3 does for travel? This HD 15mm looks quirky but uber tiny, and my D800 + 14-24 is just f'ing HUGE"
- Gets HOOKED on Pentax premium grade lenses, possibly considering using the K-3 + DA* and Limited line for all purposes
Now magnify that across many, many shooters. More money brought into the system, huge attention and legitimacy across the professional side of the industry (which is what drives the brand perception - that and marketing are the only reason Canikon continue to sell garbage entry level cameras over the K-30 and K-50). Which then leads to more 3rd party support, for example Sigma's eye gets caught and the 120-300 f/2.8 SPORT is now made available for K-mount, bringing even more pro/advanced amateur shooters to the brand - further increases brand legitimacy. More money = more R&D, more marketing, and the 135-380mm f/4-5.6 eventually brought into the mix as well (yes, later than this seemingly imminent arrival).
I'm thinking long term. Not what *I* personally want in a lens right now, because yes, the f/4-5.6 is absolutely more appealing and practical to me personally. But I am not what matters individually to the long term prosperity of the brand and its attractiveness to those who still shun Pentax with "Pentax?! They still make cameras?!"
Lastly, I feel my point is still valid - right now anyone can buy a brand new DA* 60-350 f/4-5.6. And for several hundred dollars less (and still smaller) than the Nikon 80-400 VR, with proven weather sealing and IQ.
Everyone knows that I champion the hell out of Pentax, so much so that it probably has annoyed some of you and made you convinced I was a paid lackey (I'm not
). But if I had any influence at Ricoh R&D, I would persuade them to think top-down every once and a while, and the 135-380 f/4 (f/3.5 is what I'd strive for) is what I would push. They don't have to abandon the consumer WR and Limited line, but there needs to be that pro-grade halo product that entices the pro to have a K-3 + Pentax AW lens at the Super Bowl/Olympics/whatever. The DA 560 flopped at this attempt - there's no kidding outselves in that regard, despite what we all hoped at it's initial leaking.
We have the K-3 guys. It's undisputed that it kicks the crap out of every crop camera out there, competing with some at the FF level for IQ and features. But the lenses aren't there to persuade the vast majority of pros from giving the K mount a chance. How many times have you heard "I wish the K-3 had an F/EF mount." ?
Just the view from my fox hole, anyway. I won't belabor the point further.
Originally posted by gazonk (Anyone else think the 55-300 performs poorly at 300mm at almost infinity? I'm very satisfied with the results I get at close range, but far away subjects end up looking pretty "mushy").
This was the HD 55-300 when I tested it for the in-depth review here (not the full review, just one picture, but too large to embed here). All of the moons are 100% crops for each combination in that picture. I recommend saving that to your desktop and then viewing it - opening it up in your browser will likely not show the full resolution of the image (over 2400px wide).
-Heie