Originally posted by dcshooter Funny, that's what most of the people defending the photographer are doing. People don't realize that unless you have an integrated contract, the terms of the contract can include everything pretty much agreed upon in the negotiation. You can't simply rely on teh words on the paper, since the contract is conceived of as existing apart form the document. If you look at the various stories written on this, many commenters on the various sites (not just here) are saying it says "adult" and "any use," so of course she should know it allows its use for porn.
I'd like to see citations and links to those comments. I've not seen that and I find it hard to believe that many photographers, especially those who deal with models on even an occasional basis can manage to misunderstand or so strangely interpret a common term of "adult" to authorize use in "adult" material
Originally posted by dcshooter I freely admit that I'm more sympathetic to the model's claims at this point, but the vast majority of the commenters on photo sites are doing the exact same thing for this guy, merely due to the fact that he is a photographer. Lets face it, there are plenty of sleazy people in the photogrpahy business, and it's pretty silly to think that it's outside of the realm of possibility that this guy isn't telling the whole truth. That's exactly why there should be a trial in this case. But most photographers I've seen so far are letting the perceived possibility that this could happen to them too keep them form even entertaining the possibility that this suit might be deserved. Call it the "thin blue line" of the photographic world.
I'm not supporting him just because he is a photographer, I am supporting him because he says he can provide EVIDENCE. He may be lying, but making the claim lends a certain amount of credibility to his story. The model admits she cannot provide any evidence corroborating her claims about what they negotiated or what the photographer said. She just say "take my word for it. I can't prove anything but seeeeee, I have a pretty face!" There are as many sleazy models out there as there are sleazy photographers and this is why I always have my wife or another witness present when I shoot any model.
Originally posted by dcshooter Both sides can put their claims out in a court. the main sticking point for me is that the guy commercialized photos taken during a portfolio trade shoot. Whether he told her he was doing it or not, if true, that's a major departure from ethical photographic industry practice and pretty sleazy to boot. Basically what he's doing is telling that the model's time and talents aren't worth any more than the privilege of being photographed. For a member of a profession that is continuously trying to make the case that its work deserves to be protected by copyright and paid a fair wage for, this does not make the guy look good at all.
You are right that this is the real sticking point... he says it was a paid shoot and claims to have evidence to back that up. She claims it was a trade shoot. It would be interesting to see if her or her agent's bank statement reflects a payment from him to her account. I hope the photographer's attorney has checked into this.
Another point you are not considering is that trade shoots, while commonly limited to portfolio use are not legally required to be. The model is essentially being paid to model with copies of the photographs. This is, in the terms commonly used in releases, a "valuable consideration" in that to get the same photos when the photographer wasn't interested in using them himself, SHE would have to pay him for them. The TFP contract I use with my models states that the shoot is being conducted as a trade... her modeling services for my photography services. I am essentially paying her by giving her photos rather than cash. She compensates me by providing a release that allows me to use the images as I desire from portfolio use up to commercial sales. The contract also states that I, and only I, the right to sell the images to anyone. She can use them in whatever form she desires to promote herself, web sites, lobby cards, business cards, etc but any sales or third party commercial uses have to go through me. And even though I am not required to, since she/he has already been paid for their services (photos) the contract also states that they will get a cut (up to a certain amount) of any commercial sales.
p.s. My contract also states that I will not use or market the images as or in a "pornography" situation (paraphrasing here since I do not have a copy of the contract in front of me) or to discredit or defame the model... however I am not responsible for unauthorized uses by other parties.