Dream job with the National Park Service

skierd · 12-08-2015, 11:24 AM

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/422484300

Now where did I put that 4x5 camera I don't own and job experience I don't quite have...

ChristianRock · 12-08-2015, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by skierd

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/422484300

Now where did I put that 4x5 camera I don't own and job experience I don't quite have...

A Pentax 67 camera with a 55mm lens (or 45mm if there's an extra couple hundred dollars) might have to do, until you get that 4x5

And that would be a great job, provided you end up in a good park...

normhead · 12-08-2015, 11:52 AM

30 years ago, I would have gone for that. Now I have my own park...

Make it 38 years ago. At that point I was still an American citizen, these days, not so much.

**savoche** · 12-08-2015, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by skierd

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/422484300

Now where did I put that 4x5 camera I don't own and job experience I don't quite have...

...and that US passport I don't have

But yeah, I wouldn't mind that one...

**THoog** · 12-08-2015, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

And that would be a great job, provided you end up in a good park...

The location is Washington DC. Looks like most of the work is "materials having historical, architectural or engineering values" for the Library of Congress collection, which is still pretty cool, but working in DC - no thanks.

rrstuff · 12-08-2015, 01:13 PM

I wonder why is US citizenship required for this kind of job? It's not like it has any security clearance.

skierd · 12-08-2015, 01:20 PM

Most likely because it's for a Federal Agency (National Park Service and the Library of Congress) over any of the jingo rhetoric going on in our current election cycle.

Not a Number · 12-08-2015, 01:22 PM

Any position with the Federal Government requires US citizenship and a background check/security clearance. There are many levels of security clearances. I applied for a temporary position with the US Census Bureau and it required US citizenship as well as a background check/security check from the FBI.

When I worked for the Veterans Administration right out of college I had to get a security clearance too.

desertscape · 12-08-2015, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by normhead

30 years ago, I would have gone for that.

+1 to that. If I were younger, I might dust off the Linhof flatbed and give it a go.

Murfy · 12-08-2015, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by rrstuff

I wonder why is US citizenship required for this kind of job? It's not like it has any security clearance.

all jobs for government require that, even federal contractors who don't need security clearance.

rrstuff · 12-08-2015, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Any position with the Federal Government requires US citizenship and a background check/security clearance. There are many levels of security clearances. I applied for a temporary position with the US Census Bureau and it required US citizenship as well as a background check/security check from the FBI.

When I worked for the Veterans Administration right out of college I had to get a security clearance too.

Permanent residents can get background checks and security clearance too. LPRs can work at places like Jet propulsion lab, so it's surprising they wouldn't be able to work at NPS.
That makes me think it's more likely a matter of politics. Well, it's a huge tangent, let's not change the subject. I was just surprised.

Looks like a very cool job though. I forwarded it to a friend who would have a shot.

**THoog** · 12-08-2015, 01:52 PM

There are a number of overlapping Appropriations Acts and Executive Order requirements that restrict Federal jobs to citizens (with exceptions of course). It varies depending on the position. I think it would be hard for the Park Service to argue that they can't find a qualified US citizen to fill this position.

stevebrot · 12-08-2015, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by THoog

but working in DC - no thanks.

If they provide an armed body guard, it might work, but working alone under a darkcloth on the streets in DC...no thanks. Still though, it would be tempting. I could easily do the job except for the required GS-11 experience. This position most likely has a previously-picked person (worked all last year at GS-11).

Steve

(...dang! GS-12 for taking photos...)

rrstuff · 12-08-2015, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by THoog

I think it would be hard for the Park Service to argue that they can't find a qualified US citizen to fill this position.

I think you are right, that could very well be it. It's not something that's on my mind because in science it is particularly easy to fulfill that requirement.
It's usually just a matter of waiting half a year until the position fails to fill up.

**THoog** · 12-08-2015, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

If they provide an armed body guard, it might work, but working alone under a darkcloth on the streets in DC...no thanks.

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." But apart from Congress, it's not that bad.

12-08-2015, 11:24 AM	#1
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12-08-2015, 11:47 AM	#2
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by skierd https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/422484300 Now where did I put that 4x5 camera I don't own and job experience I don't quite have... A Pentax 67 camera with a 55mm lens (or 45mm if there's an extra couple hundred dollars) might have to do, until you get that 4x5 And that would be a great job, provided you end up in a good park...

12-08-2015, 11:52 AM	#3
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	30 years ago, I would have gone for that. Now I have my own park... Make it 38 years ago. At that point I was still an American citizen, these days, not so much.

12-08-2015, 12:01 PM	#4
savoche Master of the obvious Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Lowlands of Norway Posts: 18,311	Originally posted by skierd https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/422484300 Now where did I put that 4x5 camera I don't own and job experience I don't quite have... ...and that US passport I don't have But yeah, I wouldn't mind that one...

12-08-2015, 12:05 PM	#5
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by ChristianRock And that would be a great job, provided you end up in a good park... The location is Washington DC. Looks like most of the work is "materials having historical, architectural or engineering values" for the Library of Congress collection, which is still pretty cool, but working in DC - no thanks.

12-08-2015, 01:13 PM	#6
rrstuff Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pasadena, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,126	I wonder why is US citizenship required for this kind of job? It's not like it has any security clearance.

12-08-2015, 01:20 PM	#7
skierd Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fairbanks, AK Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,472 Original Poster	Most likely because it's for a Federal Agency (National Park Service and the Library of Congress) over any of the jingo rhetoric going on in our current election cycle.

12-08-2015, 01:22 PM	#8
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Any position with the Federal Government requires US citizenship and a background check/security clearance. There are many levels of security clearances. I applied for a temporary position with the US Census Bureau and it required US citizenship as well as a background check/security check from the FBI. When I worked for the Veterans Administration right out of college I had to get a security clearance too.

12-08-2015, 01:27 PM	#9
desertscape Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,272	Originally posted by normhead 30 years ago, I would have gone for that. +1 to that. If I were younger, I might dust off the Linhof flatbed and give it a go.

12-08-2015, 01:30 PM	#10
Murfy Veteran Member Join Date: May 2014 Photos: Gallery Posts: 803	Originally posted by rrstuff I wonder why is US citizenship required for this kind of job? It's not like it has any security clearance. all jobs for government require that, even federal contractors who don't need security clearance.

12-08-2015, 01:32 PM	#11
rrstuff Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pasadena, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,126	Originally posted by Not a Number Any position with the Federal Government requires US citizenship and a background check/security clearance. There are many levels of security clearances. I applied for a temporary position with the US Census Bureau and it required US citizenship as well as a background check/security check from the FBI. When I worked for the Veterans Administration right out of college I had to get a security clearance too. Permanent residents can get background checks and security clearance too. LPRs can work at places like Jet propulsion lab, so it's surprising they wouldn't be able to work at NPS. That makes me think it's more likely a matter of politics. Well, it's a huge tangent, let's not change the subject. I was just surprised. Looks like a very cool job though. I forwarded it to a friend who would have a shot.

12-08-2015, 01:52 PM	#12
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	There are a number of overlapping Appropriations Acts and Executive Order requirements that restrict Federal jobs to citizens (with exceptions of course). It varies depending on the position. I think it would be hard for the Park Service to argue that they can't find a qualified US citizen to fill this position.

12-08-2015, 01:58 PM	#13
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by THoog but working in DC - no thanks. If they provide an armed body guard, it might work, but working alone under a darkcloth on the streets in DC...no thanks. Still though, it would be tempting. I could easily do the job except for the required GS-11 experience. This position most likely has a previously-picked person (worked all last year at GS-11). Steve (...dang! GS-12 for taking photos...)

12-08-2015, 02:05 PM	#14
rrstuff Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pasadena, CA Photos: Albums Posts: 1,126	Originally posted by THoog I think it would be hard for the Park Service to argue that they can't find a qualified US citizen to fill this position. I think you are right, that could very well be it. It's not something that's on my mind because in science it is particularly easy to fulfill that requirement. It's usually just a matter of waiting half a year until the position fails to fill up.

12-08-2015, 02:12 PM	#15
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by stevebrot If they provide an armed body guard, it might work, but working alone under a darkcloth on the streets in DC...no thanks. "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." But apart from Congress, it's not that bad.