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Winder · 09-16-2016, 07:03 AM

I'm not sure currency exchange rates are what is driving the current swings. Talking to the guys at my local brick and mortar store and their pricing is locked in for the year. They just started carrying the Sony FE line and they have a contract to by a predetermined volume from Sony and have set pricing for the term of that contract.

If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply. Retailers can sell for more than the MAP (Minimum Advertised Price). If you look at the Sony A7II on Amazon US it says "Ships in 1-2 months". This is a 2 year old camera with a 4 year old sensor and Sony is still having issues keeping production of sensors at a high enough volume to meet demand. The price of the A7II has risen back up to what it was 2 years ago at its release. This has more to do with supply and demand than exchange rates and inflation. The Bank of Japan has a 2% inflation target and yet they have had 5 straight quarters of deflation (-.4%) as prices are falling.

RonHendriks1966 · 09-16-2016, 07:38 AM

Originally posted by Winder

If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply.

Since it is not the demand that cause the trouble (camera sales are low), it probably is supply. Low production because of still interrupted supply of parts (sensor and what not). Not only Sony. Nikon hasn't run any cash back for months now on any products.

Caat · 09-16-2016, 07:59 AM

UK prices are almost certainly going to go up because the £ has fallen so greatly that importing goods into the UK is proportionately a lot more expensive than it was about three months ago. Importers can absorb those costs for a while if they are able but prices on most things in the UK that are imported are likely to rise simply because of that. Before you start talking about any pricing policy coming out of Ricoh in Japan.

---------- Post added 09-16-16 at 04:03 PM ----------

Originally posted by Winder

I'm not sure currency exchange rates are what is driving the current swings. Talking to the guys at my local brick and mortar store and their pricing is locked in for the year. They just started carrying the Sony FE line and they have a contract to by a predetermined volume from Sony and have set pricing for the term of that contract.

If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply. Retailers can sell for more than the MAP (Minimum Advertised Price). If you look at the Sony A7II on Amazon US it says "Ships in 1-2 months". This is a 2 year old camera with a 4 year old sensor and Sony is still having issues keeping production of sensors at a high enough volume to meet demand. The price of the A7II has risen back up to what it was 2 years ago at its release. This has more to do with supply and demand than exchange rates and inflation. The Bank of Japan has a 2% inflation target and yet they have had 5 straight quarters of deflation (-.4%) as prices are falling.

The UK doesn't have Minimum Advertised Pricing to the best of my knowledge. I think it might even be illegal.

davidsladek · 09-16-2016, 08:05 AM

...partly an issue for the Japanese government as well, which has repeatedly tried to weaken Yen to support economy but it keeps climbing up

Originally posted by Caat

UK prices are almost certainly going to go up because the £ has fallen so greatly that importing goods into the UK is proportionately a lot more expensive than it was about three months ago. Importers can absorb those costs for a while if they are able but prices on most things in the UK that are imported are likely to rise simply because of that. Before you start talking about any pricing policy coming out of Ricoh in Japan.

---------- Post added 09-16-16 at 04:03 PM ----------

The UK doesn't have Minimum Advertised Pricing to the best of my knowledge. I think it might even be illegal.

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**ffking** · 09-16-2016, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Caat

Argh! Happened overnight. K-1 is now £1799 from most retailers!

what's weird is srs are selling the 70-200 for £200 less, and the other lenses haven't changed (yet?)

D1N0 · 09-18-2016, 08:13 AM

Tomorrow is announcementday but nothing for Pentax. Not even vintage mirrorless

http://www.photokina.com/redaktionell/photokina/downloads_32/pdf_37/Press/Press-dates.pdf

Panasonic, Canon (in German so nothing major). Sony, Nikon an Fuji. Will hold a press conference (no Olympus either).

Mistral75 · 09-18-2016, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by D1N0

Tomorrow is announcement day but nothing for Pentax. Not even vintage mirrorless

http://www.photokina.com/redaktionell/photokina/downloads_32/pdf_37/Press/Press-dates.pdf

Panasonic, Canon (in German so nothing major). Sony, Nikon an Fuji. Will hold a press conference (no Olympus either).

Olympus press conference is scheduled tomorrow at 6:30pm CEST / 12:30pm EDT.

Live Stream | Olympus

They will announce OM-D E-M1 II, some accessories to go with it (power battery holder, waterproof protector, remote cable, premium camera back and twin flash set), PEN E-PL8, 12-100mm f/4, 25mm f/1.2, 30mm macro 1.25:1 and FL-900 R flash.

D1N0 · 09-18-2016, 10:54 AM

They must be staging it elsewhere in Cologne then. Looking at Ricoh's German site (Ricoh Germany is stand holder) Photokina is going to be about the Theta mainly: Startseite - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH

asahi man · 09-18-2016, 02:22 PM - **1 Like**

K-1 :-) Firmware 1.30 coming up next minutes/hour. Now next hours.
Best regards

**Belnan** · 09-18-2016, 02:24 PM

Originally posted by asahi man

Firmware 1.30 coming up next minutes/hour.
Best regards

For what camera? Sorry im to lazy to look up firmware updates.

---------- Post added 09-18-16 at 02:26 PM ----------

Originally posted by Belnan

For what camera? Sorry im to lazy to look up firmware updates.

Maybe support for new lenses?

D1N0 · 09-18-2016, 02:32 PM

Probably the k-1. The white dot issue i think. Hopefully also af and video improvements.

**Belnan** · 09-18-2016, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by D1N0

Probably the k-1. The white dot issue i think. Hopefully also af and video improvements.

I think this is more likely. Big news for Pentax at photokina " no more white dots for the K-1"

Improved autofocus would be very welcome I suspect. But I wouldnt bet on it.

asahi man · 09-18-2016, 02:44 PM

Nope,new functions and settings.
But,it's pushed back.
I think till tomorrow.
Looks like to early linking,cause still empty.
Best regards

And now on facebook,but still empty.

D1N0 · 09-18-2016, 03:55 PM

Now they have to send everyone a new manual

and the white dot issue is in the "improved stability for general performance"

awscreo · 09-18-2016, 08:47 PM

Nice, new firmware! Let's hope for af improvements, I personally don't have any white dots issues, but I'm following few threads with people that have (was part of my research before I bought k-1)

09-16-2016, 08:05 AM	#559
davidsladek Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Surrey Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 346	just a little visualisation... and warning that things could get worse... ...partly an issue for the Japanese government as well, which has repeatedly tried to weaken Yen to support economy but it keeps climbing up Originally posted by Caat UK prices are almost certainly going to go up because the £ has fallen so greatly that importing goods into the UK is proportionately a lot more expensive than it was about three months ago. Importers can absorb those costs for a while if they are able but prices on most things in the UK that are imported are likely to rise simply because of that. Before you start talking about any pricing policy coming out of Ricoh in Japan. ---------- Post added 09-16-16 at 04:03 PM ---------- The UK doesn't have Minimum Advertised Pricing to the best of my knowledge. I think it might even be illegal. Attached Images

09-18-2016, 02:22 PM - 1 Like	#564
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	K-1 :-) Firmware 1.30 coming up next minutes/hour. Now next hours. Best regards Last edited by asahi man; 09-18-2016 at 02:56 PM.

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09-16-2016, 07:03 AM	#556
Winder Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 6,617	I'm not sure currency exchange rates are what is driving the current swings. Talking to the guys at my local brick and mortar store and their pricing is locked in for the year. They just started carrying the Sony FE line and they have a contract to by a predetermined volume from Sony and have set pricing for the term of that contract. If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply. Retailers can sell for more than the MAP (Minimum Advertised Price). If you look at the Sony A7II on Amazon US it says "Ships in 1-2 months". This is a 2 year old camera with a 4 year old sensor and Sony is still having issues keeping production of sensors at a high enough volume to meet demand. The price of the A7II has risen back up to what it was 2 years ago at its release. This has more to do with supply and demand than exchange rates and inflation. The Bank of Japan has a 2% inflation target and yet they have had 5 straight quarters of deflation (-.4%) as prices are falling.

09-16-2016, 07:38 AM	#557
RonHendriks1966 Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,675	Originally posted by Winder If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply. Since it is not the demand that cause the trouble (camera sales are low), it probably is supply. Low production because of still interrupted supply of parts (sensor and what not). Not only Sony. Nikon hasn't run any cash back for months now on any products.

09-16-2016, 07:59 AM	#558
Caat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: United Kingdom Photos: Albums Posts: 927	UK prices are almost certainly going to go up because the £ has fallen so greatly that importing goods into the UK is proportionately a lot more expensive than it was about three months ago. Importers can absorb those costs for a while if they are able but prices on most things in the UK that are imported are likely to rise simply because of that. Before you start talking about any pricing policy coming out of Ricoh in Japan. ---------- Post added 09-16-16 at 04:03 PM ---------- Originally posted by Winder I'm not sure currency exchange rates are what is driving the current swings. Talking to the guys at my local brick and mortar store and their pricing is locked in for the year. They just started carrying the Sony FE line and they have a contract to by a predetermined volume from Sony and have set pricing for the term of that contract. If prices are rising it is probably due to high demand and limited supply. Retailers can sell for more than the MAP (Minimum Advertised Price). If you look at the Sony A7II on Amazon US it says "Ships in 1-2 months". This is a 2 year old camera with a 4 year old sensor and Sony is still having issues keeping production of sensors at a high enough volume to meet demand. The price of the A7II has risen back up to what it was 2 years ago at its release. This has more to do with supply and demand than exchange rates and inflation. The Bank of Japan has a 2% inflation target and yet they have had 5 straight quarters of deflation (-.4%) as prices are falling. The UK doesn't have Minimum Advertised Pricing to the best of my knowledge. I think it might even be illegal.

09-16-2016, 11:05 AM	#560
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	Originally posted by Caat Argh! Happened overnight. K-1 is now £1799 from most retailers! what's weird is srs are selling the 70-200 for £200 less, and the other lenses haven't changed (yet?)

09-18-2016, 08:13 AM	#561
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Tomorrow is announcementday but nothing for Pentax. Not even vintage mirrorless http://www.photokina.com/redaktionell/photokina/downloads_32/pdf_37/Press/Press-dates.pdf Panasonic, Canon (in German so nothing major). Sony, Nikon an Fuji. Will hold a press conference (no Olympus either).

09-18-2016, 10:27 AM	#562
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by D1N0 Tomorrow is announcement day but nothing for Pentax. Not even vintage mirrorless http://www.photokina.com/redaktionell/photokina/downloads_32/pdf_37/Press/Press-dates.pdf Panasonic, Canon (in German so nothing major). Sony, Nikon an Fuji. Will hold a press conference (no Olympus either). Olympus press conference is scheduled tomorrow at 6:30pm CEST / 12:30pm EDT. Live Stream \| Olympus They will announce OM-D E-M1 II, some accessories to go with it (power battery holder, waterproof protector, remote cable, premium camera back and twin flash set), PEN E-PL8, 12-100mm f/4, 25mm f/1.2, 30mm macro 1.25:1 and FL-900 R flash.

09-18-2016, 10:54 AM	#563
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	They must be staging it elsewhere in Cologne then. Looking at Ricoh's German site (Ricoh Germany is stand holder) Photokina is going to be about the Theta mainly: Startseite - RICOH IMAGING DEUTSCHLAND GmbH

09-18-2016, 02:24 PM	#565
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by asahi man Firmware 1.30 coming up next minutes/hour. Best regards For what camera? Sorry im to lazy to look up firmware updates. ---------- Post added 09-18-16 at 02:26 PM ---------- Originally posted by Belnan For what camera? Sorry im to lazy to look up firmware updates. Maybe support for new lenses?

09-18-2016, 02:32 PM	#566
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Probably the k-1. The white dot issue i think. Hopefully also af and video improvements.

09-18-2016, 02:40 PM	#567
Belnan Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Nova Scotia Photos: Albums Posts: 1,090	Originally posted by D1N0 Probably the k-1. The white dot issue i think. Hopefully also af and video improvements. I think this is more likely. Big news for Pentax at photokina " no more white dots for the K-1" Improved autofocus would be very welcome I suspect. But I wouldnt bet on it.

09-18-2016, 02:44 PM	#568
asahi man Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Photos: Albums Posts: 324	Nope,new functions and settings. But,it's pushed back. I think till tomorrow. Looks like to early linking,cause still empty. Best regards And now on facebook,but still empty.

09-18-2016, 03:55 PM	#569
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	Now they have to send everyone a new manual and the white dot issue is in the "improved stability for general performance"

09-18-2016, 08:47 PM	#570
awscreo Veteran Member Join Date: May 2016 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,722	Nice, new firmware! Let's hope for af improvements, I personally don't have any white dots issues, but I'm following few threads with people that have (was part of my research before I bought k-1)