SmugMug Swallows Flickr

Not a Number · 04-22-2018, 05:39 PM

With Photobucket you used to be able to download albums (even those not your own) as a zip file. Now it looks like a paid for feature. I still have my free Photobucket account. I was going to upload them to Flickr it was too much work to download each image one at a time and even more work to find them and upload from my archive disks. Since I use an image host primarily to share photos in forum posts a paid service isn't worth it for me. Photobucket still works for this as long as the viewer is using Chrome or Firefox with the appropriate plug-in.

I was never a fan of Flickr to begin with. Imgur still has free options.

**boriscleto** · 04-22-2018, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by jpzk

Thanks !

BTW, the linked site (not Flickr) has produced an alert from my AV software.

So, I have just Google'd "Flickr Bulk Download" (using some of the wording from your link) and got to the "Flickr Downloader" ... as per here: flickr downloadr - Batch download your flickr photos!
Would that be the same thing?

It's probably easiest to select 5000 photos in Batch Organize and send them to a new album. You can then download a .zip file with those 5000 photos. I have 7513 files so I would need 2 albums...Downloading from Camera Roll is limited to 500 at a time...

But that application would probably work too...

**jpzk** · 04-22-2018, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by boriscleto

It's probably easiest to select 5000 photos in Batch Organize and send them to a new album. You can then download a .zip file with those 5000 photos. I have 7513 files so I would need 2 albums...Downloading from Camera Roll is limited to 500 at a time...

But that application would probably work too...

Sound like a good plan.
Thanks again for the info.

SpecialK · 04-22-2018, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by photolady95

I hope they don't do what photobucket did to some members here.

I was one of the "some". What a mess that was.

bdery · 04-23-2018, 04:59 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by stevebrot

What I do know is that SmugMug users on this site seem to have a difficult time sharing photos posted there.

On the contrary, Smugmug's sharing tools are superb and easy to use. I use them all the time.

Originally posted by Fenwoodian

2. Modify the Flickr user agreement to allow Smugmug the rights to sell prints and license images of the photographs that we post on Flickr

Smugmug is not in the business of appropriating your photos. Quite the contrary, their main business is offering a platform for pro photographers to build, host and maintain their website. Alienating their business would make little sense.

What they're more likely to do is tie in their printing service within Flickr.

**boriscleto** · 04-23-2018, 05:13 AM

I finally got the eMail about 10 minutes ago.

normhead · 04-23-2018, 05:34 AM

From the notice I received yesterday

Quote:

We think you are going to love Flickr under SmugMug ownership, but you can choose to not have your Flickr account and data transferred to SmugMug until May 25, 2018. If you want to keep your Flickr account and data from being transferred, you must go to your Flickr account to download the photos and videos you want to keep, then delete your account from your Account Settings by May 25, 2018.

If you do not delete your account by May 25, 2018, your Flickr account and data will transfer to SmugMug and will be governed by SmugMug’s Terms and Privacy Policy.

Flickr running one Smugmug servers is what it looks like to me.

**twilhelm** · 04-23-2018, 06:29 AM

Originally posted by normhead

From the notice I received yesterday

Flickr running one Smugmug servers is what it looks like to me.

I got my email last night and this was my take on it also.

I had a Zenfolio account for years, until my Pro plan went from $99 to $240 a year. Which made little sense to me considering the thousands they made from me with their printing service. I have a 500px, but I don’t use it, I just don’t find it as good as Flickr or some others.

I’m just glad I didn’t get too caught up in the photobucket fiasco.

bobell69 · 04-23-2018, 06:35 AM - **1 Like**

I have a pro account on Flickr. When I heard that SmugMug purchased Flickr I checked SmugMug out. Very expensive membership fees. I'm concerned that my annual pro account fee will increase to the point that I can't afford it. I presently have thousands of images on Flickr. Hate to lose what I like about Flickr. I'm hoping for positives, but may have to move somewhere else.

eddie1960 · 04-23-2018, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by boriscleto

The only thing that has changed so far is the donut icon at the top of the page that takes you to SmugMug.

I'm sure at some point logins will be separated from your Yahoo account...They'll probably screw those of us who are grandfathered in to the Pro accounts...

almost definitely , i need to read terms because they gave basically 32 days for you to download and close accounts if you don't like smug mug terms, total BS move that is

D1N0 · 04-23-2018, 07:20 AM

I never read terms. Somebody will and write about why I should leave or stay.

**monochrome** · 04-23-2018, 07:24 AM - **1 Like**

Think about this:

(Assume) It cost Yahoo! something to run Flickr
(Assume) Verizon didn’t want to absorb that cost
(Assume) SmugMug paid something to acquire Flickr (even if their ‘payment’ is only future cost assumption)
(Assume) SmugMug doesn’t want to absorb that cost
Therefore, SmugMug will charge something for Flickr or SmugMug will be bankrupt.

Just be prepared to pay for what you get.

**baro-nite** · 04-23-2018, 07:26 AM - **2 Likes**

Just read through most of the TOS and privacy policy. (Skimmed some of it.) It all looks reasonable enough, though IANAL. I'm skeptical about their claim to have trademarked the "look and feel" of the services, but I guess that's a common practice, whether or not it is really enforceable.

**THoog** · 04-23-2018, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by bobell69

I have a pro account on Flickr. When I heard that SmugMug purchased Flickr I checked SmugMug out. Very expensive membership fees. I'm concerned that my annual pro account fee will increase to the point that I can't afford it. I presently have thousands of images on Flickr. Hate to lose what I like about Flickr. I'm hoping for positives, but may have to move somewhere else.

Are you seeing different prices from what I am seeing? A SmugMug 'Basic' account is US$47.88/year, and the current price for a Flickr 'Pro' account is US$49.99/year.

A Basic account is roughly the same level of service as a Flickr Pro account (unlimited storage, unlimited uploads). Flickr doesn't offer anything like the higher-tier SmugMug offerings (custom website, personal URL, custom code, etc.).

**boriscleto** · 04-23-2018, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by THoog

Are you seeing different prices from what I am seeing? A SmugMug 'Basic' account is US$47.88/year, and the current price for a Flickr 'Pro' account is US$49.99/year.

A Basic account is roughly the same level of service as a Flickr Pro account (unlimited storage, unlimited uploads). Flickr doesn't offer anything like the higher-tier SmugMug offerings (custom website, personal URL, custom code, etc.).

Those of us who have grandfathered Flickr Pro accounts pay $24.95/year for unlimited storage and ad-free browsing/sharing...So we'll probably be paying twice as much...

04-23-2018, 07:24 AM - 1 Like	#102
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Think about this: (Assume) It cost Yahoo! something to run Flickr (Assume) Verizon didn’t want to absorb that cost (Assume) SmugMug paid something to acquire Flickr (even if their ‘payment’ is only future cost assumption) (Assume) SmugMug doesn’t want to absorb that cost Therefore, SmugMug will charge something for Flickr or SmugMug will be bankrupt. Just be prepared to pay for what you get. Last edited by monochrome; 04-23-2018 at 08:19 AM.

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04-22-2018, 05:39 PM	#91
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	With Photobucket you used to be able to download albums (even those not your own) as a zip file. Now it looks like a paid for feature. I still have my free Photobucket account. I was going to upload them to Flickr it was too much work to download each image one at a time and even more work to find them and upload from my archive disks. Since I use an image host primarily to share photos in forum posts a paid service isn't worth it for me. Photobucket still works for this as long as the viewer is using Chrome or Firefox with the appropriate plug-in. I was never a fan of Flickr to begin with. Imgur still has free options.

04-22-2018, 06:12 PM	#92
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by jpzk Thanks ! BTW, the linked site (not Flickr) has produced an alert from my AV software. So, I have just Google'd "Flickr Bulk Download" (using some of the wording from your link) and got to the "Flickr Downloader" ... as per here: flickr downloadr - Batch download your flickr photos! Would that be the same thing? It's probably easiest to select 5000 photos in Batch Organize and send them to a new album. You can then download a .zip file with those 5000 photos. I have 7513 files so I would need 2 albums...Downloading from Camera Roll is limited to 500 at a time... But that application would probably work too...

04-22-2018, 06:24 PM	#93
jpzk Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Québec Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,251	Originally posted by boriscleto It's probably easiest to select 5000 photos in Batch Organize and send them to a new album. You can then download a .zip file with those 5000 photos. I have 7513 files so I would need 2 albums...Downloading from Camera Roll is limited to 500 at a time... But that application would probably work too... Sound like a good plan. Thanks again for the info.

04-22-2018, 07:01 PM	#94
SpecialK Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: So California Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,480	Originally posted by photolady95 I hope they don't do what photobucket did to some members here. I was one of the "some". What a mess that was.

04-23-2018, 04:59 AM - 2 Likes	#95
bdery Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Quebec city, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 9,357	Originally posted by stevebrot What I do know is that SmugMug users on this site seem to have a difficult time sharing photos posted there. On the contrary, Smugmug's sharing tools are superb and easy to use. I use them all the time. Originally posted by Fenwoodian 2. Modify the Flickr user agreement to allow Smugmug the rights to sell prints and license images of the photographs that we post on Flickr Smugmug is not in the business of appropriating your photos. Quite the contrary, their main business is offering a platform for pro photographers to build, host and maintain their website. Alienating their business would make little sense. What they're more likely to do is tie in their printing service within Flickr.

04-23-2018, 05:13 AM	#96
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	I finally got the eMail about 10 minutes ago.

04-23-2018, 05:34 AM	#97
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	From the notice I received yesterday Quote: We think you are going to love Flickr under SmugMug ownership, but you can choose to not have your Flickr account and data transferred to SmugMug until May 25, 2018. If you want to keep your Flickr account and data from being transferred, you must go to your Flickr account to download the photos and videos you want to keep, then delete your account from your Account Settings by May 25, 2018. If you do not delete your account by May 25, 2018, your Flickr account and data will transfer to SmugMug and will be governed by SmugMug’s Terms and Privacy Policy. Flickr running one Smugmug servers is what it looks like to me.

04-23-2018, 06:29 AM	#98
twilhelm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Florida Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,369	Originally posted by normhead From the notice I received yesterday Flickr running one Smugmug servers is what it looks like to me. I got my email last night and this was my take on it also. I had a Zenfolio account for years, until my Pro plan went from $99 to $240 a year. Which made little sense to me considering the thousands they made from me with their printing service. I have a 500px, but I don’t use it, I just don’t find it as good as Flickr or some others. I’m just glad I didn’t get too caught up in the photobucket fiasco.

04-23-2018, 06:35 AM - 1 Like	#99
bobell69 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Courtenay BC Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 498	I have a pro account on Flickr. When I heard that SmugMug purchased Flickr I checked SmugMug out. Very expensive membership fees. I'm concerned that my annual pro account fee will increase to the point that I can't afford it. I presently have thousands of images on Flickr. Hate to lose what I like about Flickr. I'm hoping for positives, but may have to move somewhere else.

04-23-2018, 07:00 AM	#100
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,666	Originally posted by boriscleto The only thing that has changed so far is the donut icon at the top of the page that takes you to SmugMug. I'm sure at some point logins will be separated from your Yahoo account...They'll probably screw those of us who are grandfathered in to the Pro accounts... almost definitely , i need to read terms because they gave basically 32 days for you to download and close accounts if you don't like smug mug terms, total BS move that is

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04-23-2018, 07:20 AM	#101
D1N0 Pentaxian Join Date: May 2012 Location: --- Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,802	I never read terms. Somebody will and write about why I should leave or stay.

04-23-2018, 07:26 AM - 2 Likes	#103
baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,294	Just read through most of the TOS and privacy policy. (Skimmed some of it.) It all looks reasonable enough, though IANAL. I'm skeptical about their claim to have trademarked the "look and feel" of the services, but I guess that's a common practice, whether or not it is really enforceable.

04-23-2018, 08:34 AM	#104
THoog Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,685	Originally posted by bobell69 I have a pro account on Flickr. When I heard that SmugMug purchased Flickr I checked SmugMug out. Very expensive membership fees. I'm concerned that my annual pro account fee will increase to the point that I can't afford it. I presently have thousands of images on Flickr. Hate to lose what I like about Flickr. I'm hoping for positives, but may have to move somewhere else. Are you seeing different prices from what I am seeing? A SmugMug 'Basic' account is US$47.88/year, and the current price for a Flickr 'Pro' account is US$49.99/year. A Basic account is roughly the same level of service as a Flickr Pro account (unlimited storage, unlimited uploads). Flickr doesn't offer anything like the higher-tier SmugMug offerings (custom website, personal URL, custom code, etc.).

04-23-2018, 09:11 AM	#105
boriscleto Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: North Syracuse, NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 16,475	Originally posted by THoog Are you seeing different prices from what I am seeing? A SmugMug 'Basic' account is US$47.88/year, and the current price for a Flickr 'Pro' account is US$49.99/year. A Basic account is roughly the same level of service as a Flickr Pro account (unlimited storage, unlimited uploads). Flickr doesn't offer anything like the higher-tier SmugMug offerings (custom website, personal URL, custom code, etc.). Those of us who have grandfathered Flickr Pro accounts pay $24.95/year for unlimited storage and ad-free browsing/sharing...So we'll probably be paying twice as much...