[MikeyBugs95]

I've been looking around form some news and saw this on pentaxrumors.com:

Concerning the revamping of some of the current, but aging DA★ lenses:

Next also old DA* lenses with new motor and electronics (maybe 16-50 + 50-135 will be first)
Maybe official information will be released in September (source)


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Are we going to see refreshed versions?
Despite my terrible experience with DA* lens I was going to try my luck again and buy 50-135! hold?

I bought the 50-135mm a couple months ago (actually I think only 1 month ago) and fell in love with it from the first picture I took with it. The AF speed is slow but for the photography I use it for, fast AF isn't need very often. Unfortunately, I kinda 'broke' the lens when I tried to take it apart to replace an o-ring. Nothing is broken, I just can't get the lens back together. Needless to say, I'm VERY upset with myself. I then bought a used 16-50 very late in November. I was deciding between the 16-50 and 16-85 but went with the DA* because I found it cheeaapp despite reading that the 16-85 is the better lens. As soon as I got it and started doing my "tests," I was sorely disappointed in my copy. Soft wide-open and even stopped down and focusing was very... Grainy.

If they produce a new 16-50 and 50-135, I think they should just replace the focus motor in the 50-135 and update the coatings from SMC to HD and Aerobright coatings. For the 16-50, I think a complete update would be needed to improve the optical quality of the lens to increase sharpness and color. Unfortunately, if they do come out with updated lenses, I can't afford to buy them.

[Lev]

aslyfox, where you get this information from?

[aslyfox]

aslyfox, where you get this information from?

what

you want an actual source ??

[mikesbike]

I think Pentax should outright replace the DA*16-50mm because I think they could do better. For one thing, back when it first appeared, Pop Photo did a lab test review and found its actual zoom range to be shorter at the long end- closer to 45mm. Performance-wise, it is evident by newer lenses like the DA 16-85mm and the DFA 28-105mm, that there have since been optical advancements, as well as the DC motors being superior.

The DA* 50-135mm, however, is so good it only needs the newer HD coatings and an updated DC motor for fast, accurate AF. It could simply be renamed the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 HD DC IF.

[Lev]

what

you want an actual source ??

just kidding man

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I think Pentax should outright replace the DA*16-50mm because I think they could do better. For one thing, back when it first appeared, Pop Photo did a lab test review and found its actual zoom range to be shorter at the long end- closer to 45mm. Performance-wise, it is evident by newer lenses like the DA 16-85mm and the DFA 28-105mm, that there have since been optical advancements, as well as the DC motors being superior.

The DA* 50-135mm, however, is so good it only needs the newer HD coatings and an updated DC motor for fast, accurate AF. It could simply be renamed the DA* 50-135mm f/2.8 HD DC IF.

Ok, we've got new name, now it's their move

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I bought the 50-135mm a couple months ago (actually I think only 1 month ago) and fell in love with it from the first picture I took with it. The AF speed is slow but for the photography I use it for, fast AF isn't need very often. Unfortunately, I kinda 'broke' the lens when I tried to take it apart to replace an o-ring. Nothing is broken, I just can't get the lens back together. Needless to say, I'm VERY upset with myself. I then bought a used 16-50 very late in November. I was deciding between the 16-50 and 16-85 but went with the DA* because I found it cheeaapp despite reading that the 16-85 is the better lens. As soon as I got it and started doing my "tests," I was sorely disappointed in my copy. Soft wide-open and even stopped down and focusing was very... Grainy.

If they produce a new 16-50 and 50-135, I think they should just replace the focus motor in the 50-135 and update the coatings from SMC to HD and Aerobright coatings. For the 16-50, I think a complete update would be needed to improve the optical quality of the lens to increase sharpness and color. Unfortunately, if they do come out with updated lenses, I can't afford to buy them.

Mikey, why can't you put it all together if there is nothing broken? Maybe someone at local shop will help?

[Paul the Sunman]

We may regard these DA* lenses as stellar performers optically, but Pentax doesn't seem content with yesteryear's standards. There was no necessity for the DFA* 70-200 and the DFA* 50 to be SO good (and SO heavy), but they went for the nuclear option. For this reason, I'm expecting the next iteration of the DA* line to go well beyond an AF motor and HD coating. This may not be a good thing.

[fsge]

We may regard these DA* lenses as stellar performers optically, but Pentax doesn't seem content with yesteryear's standards. There was no necessity for the DFA* 70-200 and the DFA* 50 to be SO good (and SO heavy), but they went for the nuclear option. For this reason, I'm expecting the next iteration of the DA* line to go well beyond an AF motor and HD coating. This may not be a good thing.

Nuclear weapon was maybe necessary to justify much higher prices?

[aslyfox]

just kidding man . . .

me too

[Lev]

We may regard these DA* lenses as stellar performers optically, but Pentax doesn't seem content with yesteryear's standards. There was no necessity for the DFA* 70-200 and the DFA* 50 to be SO good (and SO heavy), but they went for the nuclear option. For this reason, I'm expecting the next iteration of the DA* line to go well beyond an AF motor and HD coating. This may not be a good thing.

I can't imagine say 50-135 beyond its characteristics considering current optical performance but with fast and reliable autofocus. More reach?

[gaweidert]

what

you want an actual source ??

Black's Law Dictionary.

[aslyfox]

Black's Law Dictionary.

not this time

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[MikeyBugs95]

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Mikey, why can't you put it all together if there is nothing broken? Maybe someone at local shop will help?

Well I took the upper body off of the lower body and optical assembly but I couldn't get the zoom ring and upper body back on. In the process I accidentally partially tore the ribbon cable connecting the SDM motor.

[stevebrot]

gossip · hearsay · talk · tittle-tattle · the grapevine · the word on the street · goss · scuttlebutt · poop · furphy · fame · piece of gossip · report · story · whisper · canard · speculation · information · word · news · on dit · buzz · bruit

I love this list!!!


Steve

[reh321]

I think Pentax should outright replace the DA*16-50mm because I think they could do better.

The DA* 50-135mm, however, is so good it only needs the newer HD coatings and an updated DC motor

I would be extremely surprised if they replace both lenses this coming year. If Asahiman is correct, most of their effort this coming year will be put into FF.

[mee]

I can't imagine say 50-135 beyond its characteristics considering current optical performance but with fast and reliable autofocus. More reach?

I'd prefer a 30-105mm f/2.8 or even a 35-80mm f/2 on crop if it was optimally or near-optimally sharp at max ap.


Give us something unique that is still incredibly useful.


50-135 f/2.8 optically is so nice. But, yes, It really just needs updated handling and new motor imo. Yet something wider in exchange for being shorter would be my choice if I had one.