[FozzFoster]

Hey everyone,

I've seen this posted on that other website.. decided to post it here too!

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and more relevant to us:

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(Google Translate works wonders!)

According to that study, Ricoh's market share in the dSLR consumer electronics market has moved from 7.5% in 2012 and slowly receded over the years to 3.1% recently.

It looks to me that Canon has been dominate in this consumer market with Nikon a close second and Pentax a distant third.

Food for thought!

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Last edited by FozzFoster; 01-19-2019 at 03:26 PM. Reason: Clarity & Corrections

[RonHendriks1966]

I don't see this turning around without a solid investment in Pentax from Ricoh.

[FozzFoster]

I don't see this turning around without a solid investment in Pentax from Ricoh.

2019 is the year! WOO HOO! Here we go! ... right? guys?

[biz-engineer]

Food for thought!

Time to get myself a medium format system, I will then see forum discussion from an aerial viewpoint.

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Last edited by biz-engineer; 01-16-2019 at 10:02 AM.

[RonHendriks1966]

Time to get myself a medium format system, I will then see forum discussion from an aerial viewpoint.

You better buy a drone for that aerial view.

[Kunzite]

While Ricoh Imaging falling in BCNRanking's statistics is not good news, people should stop calling these "market share in Japan".

[RonHendriks1966]

2019 is the year! WOO HOO! Here we go! ... right? guys?

Well I saw someone suggesting to step up and come with 645Zii, K-3iii and K-1iii and the lenses on the roadmap. That might be a great idea.....but surely everyone will understand that that will need a good investment.

[FozzFoster]

"market share in Japan"

Could you please elaborate?

I looked at there study and it appeared to me that they sampled 40% of all Japan camera store sales - that's a pretty significant sample size imo...

[Kunzite]

They're not statistically sampling Japan's camera store; that is, they're not choosing them at random.
Instead, they're using a set of consumer electronics stores (just a few being camera stores).

[Not a Number]

As noted in another thread:

As I mentioned in a previous year, BCN is mainly composed of electronic store chains that sell low end products. That’s why you see Canon outselling Sony in mirrorless. It’s also why Olympus does well. Nikon outsells Sony in compacts, but I bet Sony makes more money on them because their products are pitched higher.

Sadly, a lot of these stores don’t sell Ricoh/Pentax at all these days, because the only products they ever sold were the Q, K-S1 and WG. They had the catalogue for other products to order but I don’t think they even have that now.

So if Ricoh really wants to do better in the BCN Ranking, they’ll have to make more effort at the low end, but ironically the reaction here would be brutal if they launched an entry level camera before the K-3 successor.

Edit: As an illustration of this, take a look at the the current ranking.
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@JPT is a resident of Japan

[FozzFoster]

As noted in another thread:

Thank you for this clarification! That really changes the story especially since Pentax is pivoting to a higher end market with enthusiast and professional grade equipment!

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consumer electronics stores

I will update the title to reflect this! Thank you for clarifying!

[RonHendriks1966]

The trend is in line with the reports of Ricoh about declining sales for the camera division.

Somehow some people like to forget about that fact.

[Merv-O]

Hey everyone,

I've seen this posted on that other website.. decided to post it here too!

??? | BCN AWARD?BCN IT ?????

and more relevant to us:

???????(????) | BCN AWARD?BCN IT ?????

(Google Translate works wonders!)

According to that study, Ricoh's market share in the dSLR consumer electronics market has moved from 7.5% in 2012 and slowly receded over the years to 3.1% recently.

It looks to me that Canon has been dominate with Nikon a close second and Pentax a distant third.

Food for thought!

The problem with this review is that Ricoh sells many cameras direct or through web-based retailers that were specifically excluded from this big box store only survey sampling. Pentax is not sold in many Best Buy/Electronics type stores (mostly Nikon, Canon & Sony). The real key is not necessarily market share but profitability....If Ricoh maintains a reasonable profit share, the brand will be safe...Personally, I would like to see RICOH pump a new marketing campaign in for Pentax including print and newspaper ads. When was the last time you even saw a Pentax commercial in print, let alone TV? long time for sure. I understand Ricoh's reluctance to advertise DSLRs and other cameras in the era of f/2.2 iPhone X's, but they are still selling units, their cameras are maintaining their quality and the brand is far from abandoned.

[biz-engineer]

You better buy a drone for that aerial view.

How about having yourself an interview with your comrade Thijs Ekelschot. Both of you should speak the same language, so you would solve the business of Pentax better than on Pentaxforums, because I'm afraid that most Pentax customers can't address your concerns (concerns such as: what products should Pentax make, how much investment would be required etc..).

[clackers]

Ignore BCN stats if used in any argument.

CIPA stats are close to definitive, but of course don't reveal breakdown according to brand.

It is rare even for shareholders to know exactly what and how many products an electronics company has sold.