Originally posted by normhead Could we have breakdown of how many students you actually queried on the subject and what their storage needs were? For photography, I'm not understanding what Instagram and facebook actually have to do with the topic.
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About 300 students over a few years, in the most part they were needing portfolios, to break into the market, and wanting to build a following - people use these applications due to their ubiquity, and their social media components - they both have well over a billion users and have good business reach. That's not many students admittedly, but they were looking to break into the industry, so it's a reflection of what students who are trying to break into the photography industry are looking at these days.
What they have to do with the topic is an example of your argument - you present Flickr as the be all and end all of web photography - people say it's not, you say it's big, I point out that Flickr now is actually pretty small, now you say that websites have nothing to do with the topic right.
Flickr is old, it's way past it's best by (which was around 2005), it has no video-centricity, which makes arguments about camera types irrelevant, very few people use it now compared to other platforms. That's why statistics from that platform aren't any more relevant than any body else's opinion.
Many people abandoned Flickr when they went to a paid model, Flickr very definitely doesn't reflect the average camera user, it certainly doesn't reflect professional users, or those who value video in a camera (which some would say is the point of mirrorless).
Further more, in answer to this topic, Sonys full frame sales alone is sufficient argument that there has been a good uptake of full frame mirrorless cameras in the market. (FF mirrorless adoption super slow - spoiler, it's not) - I don't even personally like Sony cameras due to their ergonomics, but you'd have to be an idiot not to realise that they are extremely successful.
Originally posted by normhead
To me the data I presented raises question and I'm inquisitive. There's something going on that is way beyond straight market share.
If you're not maybe you're in the wrong thread.
I'm plenty inquisitive, sadly I also studied statistics (which makes newspapers more or less funny depending on the day). The thing that's going on with Flickr stats is called
statistical skew - the people who disagree with you are trying to find the source of the skew, whether that's demographics, what camera's are used for, paid vs unpaid accounts, whatever. I'd personally be interested in identifying the source of the skew, I suspect it would be more complex than simple age based demographics on different platforms.
That said, Yeah, good point, as I don't really care there's no real point in reading this thread further, it's kinda silly reading vociferous opinions from people on the interwebz. I'm gonna unsubscribe from this thread now and get on with my day - I've presented my opinion, like it or don't.