Unpopular Opinions From Current Industry Professionals

**AggieDad** · 05-01-2019, 08:01 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by clackers

(Laughs).

If they consider buying it, it makes it a commercial product I guess, Don. It might be a cliché, and that sells. But art?

IIRC, van Gogh struggled to sell a painting in his lifetime, so it's interesting the whole connection between dollars and quality.

Trust me, Van Gogh did not have any less success at selling his work than I have had.

**shardulm** · 05-01-2019, 08:04 PM - **1 Like**

A good handful of them almost seemed like .. well .. for the lack of the word "User Error"

j0n4hpk · 05-01-2019, 08:57 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Jean Poitiers

"People in the industry" ... they do not seem to have very desirable jobs, so maybe that's why they are so grumpy.

'Photographer' Named One of the 25 Worst Jobs in the US

Well... At least, professional photography is the Least worst job. (Check out my signature, you brave ones!)

**Merv-O** · 05-02-2019, 04:13 AM

Originally posted by k1man

Hi Clackers, I have to agree with most of what is said there, I disagree with PENTAX is to slow for sports, just look at the work of Chris Smith, Eammon McCabe, all with manual, I know that was not your quote but it is an invalid point, about LEICA etc if the lens is sharp it is sharp no matter who makes it, haha just a bit of a say mate, regards Ian

I said those things as another "unpopular' statement--meaning Pentax is not too slow for sports, but is said by unknowing individuals and is very unpopular here (that's why I said I'm adding this as number 30 to unpopular comments).
The Leica quote is from the list itself....I love manual focus because it can be faster than AF and I can use the rangefinder to focus the part of the frame I'm 'focusing' on. It wasn't Clackers it was me....just clarifying.

k1man · 05-02-2019, 03:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Merv-O

I said those things as another "unpopular' statement--meaning Pentax is not too slow for sports, but is said by unknowing individuals and is very unpopular here (that's why I said I'm adding this as number 30 to unpopular comments).
The Leica quote is from the list itself....I love manual focus because it can be faster than AF and I can use the rangefinder to focus the part of the frame I'm 'focusing' on. It wasn't Clackers it was me....just clarifying.

Hi there i know it was not Clackers so lets not split hairs, thanks ian

Take-5-JB · 05-03-2019, 04:04 PM - **1 Like**

Just some observations.
Equipment versus talent - Roger Federer could outclass most folks with a tennis racket from Walmart.

Opinions -- we all have them.

Many of the masters in art and music became that after they died.

I spent 39 years as an Industrial Chemist for a Fortune 500 company and found that people can be educated beyond their intelligence, talented beyond their education, and conceited beyond belief to the point of failing rather than being wrong!

We had an understanding that when salespeople introduced us as company experts, that the common joke was that being an expert means you are more than 50 miles from home and have an expense account.

I worked with a widely respected chemist that had a poster on his door of his office that was a photograph of a huge male orangutan and the statement "If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you!". He was good enough to have that attitude.

Pentax may (or may not) be on a trajectory to fail, but I am riding that with them.

JB

**Rondec** · 05-04-2019, 03:09 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by AggieDad

Trust me, Van Gogh did not have any less success at selling his work than I have had.

But do you still have both your ears? (That's the real question)...

audiobomber · 05-04-2019, 07:01 AM - **1 Like**

A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob.

Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning.

90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter.

normhead · 05-04-2019, 07:23 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by audiobomber

A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob.

Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning.

90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter.

The other day in the park I pointed out to (yes a canon shooter) that their lens hood was on backwards... they gave me a dirty look and kept on shooting. For some odd reason, I thought they didn't know and would correct the situation.

Silly me.

Apparently it's possible to spend the big bucks for a great camera, and not know what the lens hood does for your photography.

Having the money to buy an expensive camera doesn't mean you know a damn thing.

Wasp · 05-04-2019, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by audiobomber

A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob.

Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning.

90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter.

Total noob. While the lens will work, you can't do manual focus. At least not with the lenses that I have. Oh wait, noobs don't do manual.

**onlineflyer** · 05-04-2019, 06:16 PM - **1 Like**

27. The best camera isn't the one with you, it's your best camera, so make sure that's the one with you.

I guess that also applies to lenses? So you pack all your lenses because you never know what you will see, or have a need for (different lenses are best for different things). I only have a small collection of 16 lenses covering 20mm to 300mm, plus converters, plus tripod, etc. I really feel bad for someone with a large collection, who has to carry all that gear.

**dadipentak** · 05-04-2019, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by onlineflyer

I only have a small collection of 16 lenses covering 20mm to 300mm, plus converters, plus tripod, etc. I really feel bad for someone with a large collection, who has to carry all that gear.

**Rondec** · 05-05-2019, 03:03 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wasp

Total noob. While the lens will work, you can't do manual focus. At least not with the lenses that I have. Oh wait, noobs don't do manual.

With the newer lenses, the zoom ring is farther away from the camera while the focus ring is closer. This means you can't zoom if you have the hood turned around.

**monochrome** · 05-05-2019, 03:29 AM

Originally posted by normhead

The other day in the park I pointed out to (yes a canon shooter) that their lens hood was on backwards... they gave me a dirty look and kept on shooting. For some odd reason, I thought they didn't know and would correct the situation.

Silly me.

Apparently it's possible to spend the big bucks for a great camera, and not know what the lens hood does for your photography.

Having the money to buy an expensive camera doesn't mean you know a damn thing.

I spent four hours at the Botanical Garden yesterday. Nearly everyone not using an SLR was holding up a phone

. The ILC shooters actually had their hoods correctly mounted, which was good because it was a high bright sun. Next time I’ll go earlier. Not that I’m not a noob. When I sat down to process I discovered the camera was set to jpeg sequential, not RAW+.

It was an exceedingly pleasant afternoon, marked by knowing smiles, waiting turns, avoiding photobombing (and letting walkers pass) and a really nice discussion about Pentax while I sat on a bench changing lenses. Renewed my faith in society just a little bit, unlike the Zoo, which is an exercise in conflict avoidance.

normhead · 05-05-2019, 06:49 AM

It's not just canon shooters that shoot with the lens hoods on backwards.

05-04-2019, 07:23 AM - 2 Likes	#69
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by audiobomber A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob. Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning. 90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter. The other day in the park I pointed out to (yes a canon shooter) that their lens hood was on backwards... they gave me a dirty look and kept on shooting. For some odd reason, I thought they didn't know and would correct the situation. Silly me. Apparently it's possible to spend the big bucks for a great camera, and not know what the lens hood does for your photography. Having the money to buy an expensive camera doesn't mean you know a damn thing. Last edited by normhead; 05-04-2019 at 07:29 AM.

05-05-2019, 03:29 AM	#74
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	Originally posted by normhead The other day in the park I pointed out to (yes a canon shooter) that their lens hood was on backwards... they gave me a dirty look and kept on shooting. For some odd reason, I thought they didn't know and would correct the situation. Silly me. Apparently it's possible to spend the big bucks for a great camera, and not know what the lens hood does for your photography. Having the money to buy an expensive camera doesn't mean you know a damn thing. I spent four hours at the Botanical Garden yesterday. Nearly everyone not using an SLR was holding up a phone . The ILC shooters actually had their hoods correctly mounted, which was good because it was a high bright sun. Next time I’ll go earlier. Not that I’m not a noob. When I sat down to process I discovered the camera was set to jpeg sequential, not RAW+. It was an exceedingly pleasant afternoon, marked by knowing smiles, waiting turns, avoiding photobombing (and letting walkers pass) and a really nice discussion about Pentax while I sat on a bench changing lenses. Renewed my faith in society just a little bit, unlike the Zoo, which is an exercise in conflict avoidance. Last edited by monochrome; 05-05-2019 at 03:36 AM.

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05-01-2019, 08:01 PM - 2 Likes	#61
AggieDad Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Houston, TX Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,453	Originally posted by clackers (Laughs). If they consider buying it, it makes it a commercial product I guess, Don. It might be a cliché, and that sells. But art? IIRC, van Gogh struggled to sell a painting in his lifetime, so it's interesting the whole connection between dollars and quality. Trust me, Van Gogh did not have any less success at selling his work than I have had.

05-01-2019, 08:04 PM - 1 Like	#62
shardulm Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 793	A good handful of them almost seemed like .. well .. for the lack of the word "User Error"

05-01-2019, 08:57 PM - 1 Like	#63
j0n4hpk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 293	Originally posted by Jean Poitiers "People in the industry" ... they do not seem to have very desirable jobs, so maybe that's why they are so grumpy. 'Photographer' Named One of the 25 Worst Jobs in the US Well... At least, professional photography is the Least worst job. (Check out my signature, you brave ones!)

05-02-2019, 04:13 AM	#64
Merv-O Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 2,098	Originally posted by k1man Hi Clackers, I have to agree with most of what is said there, I disagree with PENTAX is to slow for sports, just look at the work of Chris Smith, Eammon McCabe, all with manual, I know that was not your quote but it is an invalid point, about LEICA etc if the lens is sharp it is sharp no matter who makes it, haha just a bit of a say mate, regards Ian I said those things as another "unpopular' statement--meaning Pentax is not too slow for sports, but is said by unknowing individuals and is very unpopular here (that's why I said I'm adding this as number 30 to unpopular comments). The Leica quote is from the list itself....I love manual focus because it can be faster than AF and I can use the rangefinder to focus the part of the frame I'm 'focusing' on. It wasn't Clackers it was me....just clarifying.

05-02-2019, 03:45 PM - 1 Like	#65
k1man Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Si Chiang Mai. Nong Khai Province Photos: Albums Posts: 358	Originally posted by Merv-O I said those things as another "unpopular' statement--meaning Pentax is not too slow for sports, but is said by unknowing individuals and is very unpopular here (that's why I said I'm adding this as number 30 to unpopular comments). The Leica quote is from the list itself....I love manual focus because it can be faster than AF and I can use the rangefinder to focus the part of the frame I'm 'focusing' on. It wasn't Clackers it was me....just clarifying. Hi there i know it was not Clackers so lets not split hairs, thanks ian

05-03-2019, 04:04 PM - 1 Like	#66
Take-5-JB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 236	Just some observations. Equipment versus talent - Roger Federer could outclass most folks with a tennis racket from Walmart. Opinions -- we all have them. Many of the masters in art and music became that after they died. I spent 39 years as an Industrial Chemist for a Fortune 500 company and found that people can be educated beyond their intelligence, talented beyond their education, and conceited beyond belief to the point of failing rather than being wrong! We had an understanding that when salespeople introduced us as company experts, that the common joke was that being an expert means you are more than 50 miles from home and have an expense account. I worked with a widely respected chemist that had a poster on his door of his office that was a photograph of a huge male orangutan and the statement "If I want your opinion, I'll beat it out of you!". He was good enough to have that attitude. Pentax may (or may not) be on a trajectory to fail, but I am riding that with them. JB

05-04-2019, 03:09 AM - 1 Like	#67
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by AggieDad Trust me, Van Gogh did not have any less success at selling his work than I have had. But do you still have both your ears? (That's the real question)...

05-04-2019, 07:01 AM - 1 Like	#68
audiobomber Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Sudbury, Ontario Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob. Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning. 90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter.

05-04-2019, 02:55 PM	#70
Wasp Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Pretoria Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,661	Originally posted by audiobomber A lens hood mounted backwards doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an ignorant noob. Probably not an unpopular statement, but I'm feeling cranky this morning. 90% of the time when I see someone with the hood facing the wrong direction, it's a Canon shooter. Total noob. While the lens will work, you can't do manual focus. At least not with the lenses that I have. Oh wait, noobs don't do manual.

05-04-2019, 06:16 PM - 1 Like	#71
onlineflyer Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: NW Ohio Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,091	27. The best camera isn't the one with you, it's your best camera, so make sure that's the one with you. I guess that also applies to lenses? So you pack all your lenses because you never know what you will see, or have a need for (different lenses are best for different things). I only have a small collection of 16 lenses covering 20mm to 300mm, plus converters, plus tripod, etc. I really feel bad for someone with a large collection, who has to carry all that gear.

05-04-2019, 06:52 PM	#72
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	Originally posted by onlineflyer I only have a small collection of 16 lenses covering 20mm to 300mm, plus converters, plus tripod, etc. I really feel bad for someone with a large collection, who has to carry all that gear.

05-05-2019, 03:03 AM - 1 Like	#73
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	Originally posted by Wasp Total noob. While the lens will work, you can't do manual focus. At least not with the lenses that I have. Oh wait, noobs don't do manual. With the newer lenses, the zoom ring is farther away from the camera while the focus ring is closer. This means you can't zoom if you have the hood turned around.

05-05-2019, 06:49 AM	#75
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	It's not just canon shooters that shoot with the lens hoods on backwards.