Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave I'm assuming that the one on the right is a 100% crop, and the one on the left is a crop of far fewer pixels that you've upsampled to appear the same size on screen. So the appearance of more noise in the one on the left is a by-product of the upsampling,
No the one of the left was viewed at 100% and the one on the right was down sampled to the same size.
Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave and nothing at all to do with "more light" being used to make the one on the right.
It has everything to do with more light. As a test we could shot the same scene the other way the only difference is that I would make so that both images would receive the same amount of light, would you hazard a guess as to the outcome of how the noise would appear if I was to again down sample the image with more pixels ?
Because they are made up of about the same amount of light how noise will appear would be very close
Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave And of course, in the case of digital photography we are almost never looking at an upsampled image. Even if you use a 4K monitor, a photograph taken with any camera with more than 8 megapixels has to be downsampled so that you can see it all on screen. Up sampling only becomes an issue in digital photography if you decide to print bigger than the size that your actual pixel resolution would give you at the standard 300dpi.
Again none of this had to do with up sampling
Here is a simple test done using down sampling
https://photos.smugmug.com/Temp/Temp/i-w7QRvC7/0/39653a22/O/100mm.jpg
The above image was taken at 100mm iso 100 ƒ8 1/8sec and viewed at 100%
https://photos.smugmug.com/Temp/Temp/i-LmJ2GJg/0/18d8a043/O/200mm.jpg
And this image taken at equivalent settings 200mm iso400 ƒ16 1/8sec and downscaled to the same output size.
As you can see when they are made up of the same amount of light the appearance of noise is very similar in nature.
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Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Perhaps in the interests of fair play, you could now post a 100% crop of the 18mm image, then downsample a crop from the 53mm to appear the same size on screen, so that we can all consider the difference in noise when you do that.
This was what was done so that there was no pixelization.
We can really see that its indeed the amount of light that has the greatest influence in how much noise we see in our final image unless there is a radical shift if sensor tech
And as shown above when you capture the same amount of light even when one image contains more pixels, and when they are viewed at the same output they will have very similar noise. Would this not tell you that its the total light that has the greatest influence on the noise that we capture.