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MetalUndivided · 11-09-2019, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by biz-engineer

I've used a Sony A7III, Nikon Z7 and EOS R (performed a number of AF routines and took a few test shots) , and they were were good. What's the problem with Nikon Z and EOS R cameras (beside reputation from biased reviews)? If I'd get a mirrorless ILC , I'd take the Z7 or EOS R over Sony, just because the Sonys are great in reviews and spec sheets but not that great when handling them.

The problem is that they're not better than the Sony, nor are they frankly better than DSLRs from respective manufacturers. The AF in Z7 works worse than the AF in the D850 and the AF in the A7 from what I heard. The EOS R is a hot mess regarding its ergonomics.

Mistral75 · 11-20-2019, 04:42 PM

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bobmaxja · 11-20-2019, 05:24 PM

If I see properly in slide, they will get out of the consumer market like selling in Costco, Best Buy and other and focus Pro Hobbyist. Non Pro today revenu is on par with the pro . Mid term ex^pect to be only 10-15% of pro business.

Mistral75 · 11-21-2019, 05:06 AM

Originally posted by bobmaxja

If I see properly in slide, they will get out of the consumer market like selling in Costco, Best Buy and other and focus Pro Hobbyist. Non Pro today revenu is on par with the pro . Mid term ex^pect to be only 10-15% of pro business.

It's not exactly non-pro versus pro. It's 'neither pro nor hobbyist' versus 'pro or hobbyist'.

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11-09-2019, 06:21 PM	#31
MetalUndivided Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Irkutsk, Russia Posts: 134	Originally posted by biz-engineer I've used a Sony A7III, Nikon Z7 and EOS R (performed a number of AF routines and took a few test shots) , and they were were good. What's the problem with Nikon Z and EOS R cameras (beside reputation from biased reviews)? If I'd get a mirrorless ILC , I'd take the Z7 or EOS R over Sony, just because the Sonys are great in reviews and spec sheets but not that great when handling them. The problem is that they're not better than the Sony, nor are they frankly better than DSLRs from respective manufacturers. The AF in Z7 works worse than the AF in the D850 and the AF in the A7 from what I heard. The EOS R is a hot mess regarding its ergonomics.

11-20-2019, 04:42 PM	#32
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Rumor: Nikon is supposedly killing some of their sport optics product lines - Nikon Rumors

11-20-2019, 05:24 PM	#33
bobmaxja Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Laval, Quebec Canada Posts: 2,171	If I see properly in slide, they will get out of the consumer market like selling in Costco, Best Buy and other and focus Pro Hobbyist. Non Pro today revenu is on par with the pro . Mid term ex^pect to be only 10-15% of pro business.

11-21-2019, 05:06 AM	#34
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by bobmaxja If I see properly in slide, they will get out of the consumer market like selling in Costco, Best Buy and other and focus Pro Hobbyist. Non Pro today revenu is on par with the pro . Mid term ex^pect to be only 10-15% of pro business. It's not exactly non-pro versus pro. It's 'neither pro nor hobbyist' versus 'pro or hobbyist'.

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