[beholder3]

Mirrorless sales did fall back behind DSLR sales again in spite of all the marketing/advertisement firepower used to force potential buyers to switch.

Overall just bad.

With the incoming worldwide health (and then economic) crisis it will not get any better, even though January usually is the worst month of the year.

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[biz-engineer]

The curve can even go down out of my computer screen and even below my desk, I don't see any effects it has on my photographs.

[Digitalis]

There appears to be a pattern where the market happens to be in a downturn around January only to pick up again afterward. Although the global trend is downward I'd say it is a bit sensationalist to attribute Coronavirus to the present downturn.

[Rondec]

There appears to be a pattern where the market happens to be in a downturn around January only to pick up again afterward. Although the global trend is downward I'd say it is a bit sensationalist to attribute Coronavirus to the present downturn.

I think he is saying that he expects February and March to be worse due to covid 19. January was "pre-coronavirus" and shipments were lousy. They are unlikely to bounce much till the global scare dies down.

[Serkevan]

There appears to be a pattern where the market happens to be in a downturn around January only to pick up again afterward. Although the global trend is downward I'd say it is a bit sensationalist to attribute Coronavirus to the present downturn.

I guess the thread title is more of "It's already this bad before the virus shows its impact".

I for one welcome our quasi-alive overlords... with 70% ethanol, ridiculously frequent hand washing, extra introvertedness and generous amounts of in-body ethanol for extra antiseptic properties

[Digitalis]

I for one welcome our quasi-alive overlords... with 70% ethanol, ridiculously frequent hand washing, extra introvertedness and generous amounts of in-body ethanol for extra antiseptic properties

With all those Ethanol fumes around I wouldn't light a match in there anytime - otherwise coronavirus won't be the only thing making headlines.

[normhead]

It doesn't look good for the K-new getting out soon.

[beholder3]

There appears to be a pattern where the market happens to be in a downturn around January only to pick up again afterward. Although the global trend is downward I'd say it is a bit sensationalist to attribute Coronavirus to the present downturn.

Sorry, I did try to express that the recent figures do not yet show Coronavirus impact. I would expect it to hammer april onwards figures which will be reported in summer.

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It doesn't look good for the K-new getting out soon.

From a business standpoint I would think postponing it for a year would make sense, Better than closing shop.

[biz-engineer]

It doesn't look good for the K-new getting out soon.

The K new will be released when sales of Pentax K-3 are increasing again
We say, "if you want to get rid of your dog, just say the dog is crazy". Same goes with Pentax: don't release any new product, so then you can legitimately shut it down due to lack of sales.

[Rondec]

Sorry, I did try to express that the recent figures do not yet show Coronavirus impact. I would expect it to hammer april onwards figures which will be reported in summer.

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From a business standpoint I would think postponing it for a year would make sense, Better than closing shop.

I'd expect it this fall. The Coronavirus should die down this summer with warmer weather and I would expect things to be delayed, not canceled. In point of fact, Pentax should be pretty close to finalizing firmware on the camera -- body is mostly done.

[beholder3]

I'd expect it this fall. The Coronavirus should die down this summer with warmer weather and I would expect things to be delayed, not canceled. In point of fact, Pentax should be pretty close to finalizing firmware on the camera -- body is mostly done.

Pro early release:
You have it ready and do not want it to lie around and you miss the sales.

Contra early release:
You only have one product shot per 3-4 years and the initial response is key. You now will start marketing it when nobody cares for luxury toys, even less than before, so you sell into a hole.

I do expect the global societal and economic impact to be huge as I expect some major bubbles to burst. I'd be more than happy if you were right.

[Rondec]

Pro early release:
You have it ready and do not want it to lie around and you miss the sales.

Contra early release:
You only have one product shot per 3-4 years and the initial response is key. You now will start marketing it when nobody cares for luxury toys, even less than before, so you sell into a hole.

I do expect the global societal and economic impact to be huge as I expect some major bubbles to burst. I'd be more than happy if you were right.

They have one product shot per year. The K-1 II sequel will be next year -- based on the same firmware and PRIME adjustments, combined with a newer sensor.

Obviously I know nothing and if we get to October and the market is wheezing like an octogenarian, asthma afflicted runner, then maybe it should be put off. But there is no reason to think that sales would be better in January/February than they would be in November of this year. Holiday season tends to be a good sales time while there is little extra cash for purchases in the spring (at least till income tax returns in the States).

[monochrome]

Japan was already in recession by January.

[edri]

At the prices of new cameras and new lenses the sales are still good.