Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020

Zygonyx · 09-20-2020, 01:19 AM

Not exactly as K-3/II didn't have this sweevel-screen.
Nor does this impact on power shortage when using a DSLR

**Pål Jensen** · 09-20-2020, 01:44 AM - **3 Likes**

We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum....

reh321 · 09-20-2020, 04:59 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum....

Only if "Says Ricoh of the Back" and "Doesn't Have Flash" are also subcategories.
This is yet another excuse for hanging onto old K-5 cameras for those who need an excuse not to spend money - I just don't spend it.

**Serkevan** · 09-20-2020, 05:37 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by reh321

Only if "Says Ricoh of the Back" and "Doesn't Have Flash" are also subcategories.
This is yet another excuse for hanging onto old K-5 cameras for those who need an excuse not to spend money - I just don't spend it.

It's almost like different folks have different needs

normhead · 09-20-2020, 06:45 AM

So, nothing new announced recently? Sept 20, 2020 is upon us.

Parallax · 09-20-2020, 06:58 AM - **2 Likes**

We still have two days until "early Fall".

beholder3 · 09-20-2020, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Parallax

We still have two days until "early Fall".

If you check the relevant posts, you'll find that it probably wont be October. To me sounds like sometime in November.

normhead · 09-20-2020, 07:34 AM

Just in time Christmas discount sales?

The camera that was discounted before it was released?

beholder3 · 09-20-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by normhead

Just in time Christmas discount sales?

The camera that was discounted before it was released?

Announced in November - that doesnt mean you'll find it in stores this year.

BarneyL · 09-20-2020, 09:17 AM

Didn't Ooku say that K-new would be available this year?

**jatrax** · 09-20-2020, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Pål Jensen

We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum....

Somebody should start a thread "Why I won't buy a K-new........" or maybe "Why I won't buy a flip-less K-new......"

Originally posted by Serkevan

It's almost like different folks have different needs

Now that's a remarkably profound statement. It can't possibly be right though, no one could possibly want something I don't. /sarc

Originally posted by normhead

Just in time Christmas discount sales?

The camera that was discounted before it was released?

Ricoh doesn't seem to have a good grip on retail marketing.

But if they are not on the shelves by mid-October they miss out on Christmas sales. Better in that case to wait until January when the frenzy of advertised sales is over and they have a chance to make a splash. That would be the retail marketing strategy but Ricoh is not a consumer oriented company. No one buys copiers on a Black Friday deal. It will be interesting to see how they handle the launch. It might give some idea of who is calling the shots on the marketing side.

reh321 · 09-20-2020, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by BarneyL

Didn't Ooku say that K-new would be available this year?

They may have planned to release it this year, but plans sometimes don't work out.
Personally, I think they would be better off waiting until January if they cannot get it right before Black Friday.
Having waited as long as they have, I would think users could wait another month or two.

**Serkevan** · 09-20-2020, 09:56 AM - **4 Likes**

Originally posted by reh321

They may have planned to release it this year, but plans sometimes don't work out.
Personally, I think they would be better off waiting until January if they cannot get it right before Black Friday.
Having waited as long as they have, I would think users could wait another month or two.

The main market is Japan, so I doubt Black Friday has any particular significance. It's also not too much of a thing in Europe, at least yet.

reh321 · 09-20-2020, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

The main market is Japan, so I doubt Black Friday has any particular significance. It's also not too much of a thing in Europe, at least yet.

Japan has adopted many U.S. business practices in recent years.
I would want to hear from a Japanese resident before believing that "Black Friday" does not have a business significance there.

**Serkevan** · 09-20-2020, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by reh321

Japan has adopted many U.S. business practices in recent years.
I would want to hear from a Japanese resident before believing that "Black Friday" does not have a business significance there.

Unless I hear from a Japanese resident that it does have a significance, I'd rather believe that it's like in Europe where there's no real incentive because end-of-year sales are far more important and consumers can only buy so much. A Christmas release makes far more sense.

Regardless, typically Black Friday is important because of the discounts, right? Last time I checked (in 2017, when I bought my laptop in the States), newly-released product had little to no discounts, so it probably wouldn't make for an attractive product in the eyes of consumers chasing those -75% or -50% stickers.

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09-20-2020, 01:19 AM	#631
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Not exactly as K-3/II didn't have this sweevel-screen. Nor does this impact on power shortage when using a DSLR

09-20-2020, 01:44 AM - 3 Likes	#632
Pål Jensen Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 4,371	We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum....

09-20-2020, 04:59 AM - 2 Likes	#633
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Pål Jensen We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum.... Only if "Says Ricoh of the Back" and "Doesn't Have Flash" are also subcategories. This is yet another excuse for hanging onto old K-5 cameras for those who need an excuse not to spend money - I just don't spend it.

09-20-2020, 05:37 AM - 7 Likes	#634
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by reh321 Only if "Says Ricoh of the Back" and "Doesn't Have Flash" are also subcategories. This is yet another excuse for hanging onto old K-5 cameras for those who need an excuse not to spend money - I just don't spend it. It's almost like different folks have different needs

09-20-2020, 06:45 AM	#635
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	So, nothing new announced recently? Sept 20, 2020 is upon us.

09-20-2020, 06:58 AM - 2 Likes	#636
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,332	We still have two days until "early Fall".

09-20-2020, 07:32 AM	#637
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by Parallax We still have two days until "early Fall". If you check the relevant posts, you'll find that it probably wont be October. To me sounds like sometime in November.

09-20-2020, 07:34 AM	#638
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Just in time Christmas discount sales? The camera that was discounted before it was released?

09-20-2020, 07:48 AM	#639
beholder3 Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 3,112	Originally posted by normhead Just in time Christmas discount sales? The camera that was discounted before it was released? Announced in November - that doesnt mean you'll find it in stores this year.

09-20-2020, 09:17 AM	#640
BarneyL Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 899	Didn't Ooku say that K-new would be available this year?

09-20-2020, 09:20 AM	#641
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Pål Jensen We need a flip screen subcategory on this forum.... Somebody should start a thread "Why I won't buy a K-new........" or maybe "Why I won't buy a flip-less K-new......" Originally posted by Serkevan It's almost like different folks have different needs Now that's a remarkably profound statement. It can't possibly be right though, no one could possibly want something I don't. /sarc Originally posted by normhead Just in time Christmas discount sales? The camera that was discounted before it was released? Ricoh doesn't seem to have a good grip on retail marketing. But if they are not on the shelves by mid-October they miss out on Christmas sales. Better in that case to wait until January when the frenzy of advertised sales is over and they have a chance to make a splash. That would be the retail marketing strategy but Ricoh is not a consumer oriented company. No one buys copiers on a Black Friday deal. It will be interesting to see how they handle the launch. It might give some idea of who is calling the shots on the marketing side.

09-20-2020, 09:28 AM	#642
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by BarneyL Didn't Ooku say that K-new would be available this year? They may have planned to release it this year, but plans sometimes don't work out. Personally, I think they would be better off waiting until January if they cannot get it right before Black Friday. Having waited as long as they have, I would think users could wait another month or two.

09-20-2020, 09:56 AM - 4 Likes	#643
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by reh321 They may have planned to release it this year, but plans sometimes don't work out. Personally, I think they would be better off waiting until January if they cannot get it right before Black Friday. Having waited as long as they have, I would think users could wait another month or two. The main market is Japan, so I doubt Black Friday has any particular significance. It's also not too much of a thing in Europe, at least yet.

09-20-2020, 10:44 AM	#644
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by Serkevan The main market is Japan, so I doubt Black Friday has any particular significance. It's also not too much of a thing in Europe, at least yet. Japan has adopted many U.S. business practices in recent years. I would want to hear from a Japanese resident before believing that "Black Friday" does not have a business significance there.

09-20-2020, 10:59 AM	#645
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by reh321 Japan has adopted many U.S. business practices in recent years. I would want to hear from a Japanese resident before believing that "Black Friday" does not have a business significance there. Unless I hear from a Japanese resident that it does have a significance, I'd rather believe that it's like in Europe where there's no real incentive because end-of-year sales are far more important and consumers can only buy so much. A Christmas release makes far more sense. Regardless, typically Black Friday is important because of the discounts, right? Last time I checked (in 2017, when I bought my laptop in the States), newly-released product had little to no discounts, so it probably wouldn't make for an attractive product in the eyes of consumers chasing those -75% or -50% stickers.