Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020

Kunzite · 05-13-2020, 05:47 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by gatorguy

Oh you can guarantee English translations of the reveal will be posted here the same day, and a 25 page discussion will follow.

But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it?

normhead · 05-13-2020, 05:50 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Kunzite

But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it?

And if they do, will people put black tape over it?

**Serkevan** · 05-13-2020, 06:08 AM - **6 Likes**

Originally posted by gatorguy

Oh you can guarantee English translations of the reveal will be posted here the same day, and a 25 page discussion will follow.

I am betting on Google Translate absolutely butchering the nuance of Japanese expressions, followed by at least 10 pages of heated approval/disapproval about something that actually had nothing to do with the actual statements by Ricoh

. Then we'll get a proper translation, collectively go "aaaah" and promptly return to heated approval/disapproval for 20 more pages, but at least this time it will be about something real

.

normhead · 05-13-2020, 09:36 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Larrymc

How in the heck do you know that the K-New doesn't have some sort of articulated screen??

If the K-new does have an articulated screen no one is going to believe the amount of effort I'm going to put into calling these guys out. "I been rebuked and I been scorned" and they're going to pay big time.

Not a Number · 05-13-2020, 09:48 AM - **2 Likes**

The "official" translation on the Ricoh website is here:
CP+2020 | RICOH IMAGING

For those who are too lazy to click the link:

Quote:

Video broadcast introducing PENTAX products currently in development

PENTAX will broadcast a video to introduce a selection of the new products currently in development, which were originally scheduled to be showcased at the RICOH IMAGING booth at the now-cancelled CP+ 2020.

In this video, members of PENTAX’s Product Planning Department will describe a range of models now in development, including the next flagship model of the PENTAX APS-C-format digital SLR series and new interchangeable lenses. A great chance to witness the future of PENTAX!

Date and time: 12:00 noon on Friday, May 15, 2020 (Japan time)

Please note that, due to the coronavirus outbreak, PENTAX has decided to broadcast a pre-recorded web conference.

Mistral75 · 05-13-2020, 10:04 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Ricoh Imaging:

(...) new interchangeable lenses (...)

Note the plural.

Not a Number · 05-13-2020, 10:09 AM - **1 Like**

Also note Japan Time

Originally posted by Mistral75

Note the plural.

Quote:

Date and time: 12:00 noon on Friday, May 15, 2020 (Japan time)

**pres589** · 05-13-2020, 10:14 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by Mistral75

Note the plural.

I can't wait to find out which of my lens concepts they're building! D-FA 17 f3.5 Ltd with straight aperture blades? D-FA 25 f2.5 with light weight build?? Getting my popcorn ready.

Also, I hate to suggest that Pentax need to keep up with the market vs. going their own way, but I can't imaging them not having some kind of movable screen on the K-new. I personally don't think I would use it very often but to not have it all seems like a weird thing to do. But if they give it a fixed screen instead, that's fine with me. Just happy to see some new product news.

Mistral75 · 05-13-2020, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Not a Number

Also note Japan Time

Yep!

Originally posted by Mistral75

There is no mention of GMT in the Japanese text, which simply states:

配信開始：2020年5月15日(金)　 12:00

'Available from the 15th of May, 2020 (Friday) at 12 o'clock.'

This being a Japanese press release, the time is obviously 12:00 JST (Japan Standard Time), not GMT/UTC.

**Serkevan** · 05-15-2020, 03:05 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by pres589

I can't wait to find out which of my lens concepts they're building! D-FA 17 f3.5 Ltd with straight aperture blades? D-FA 25 f2.5 with light weight build?? Getting my popcorn ready.

Also, I hate to suggest that Pentax need to keep up with the market vs. going their own way, but I can't imaging them not having some kind of movable screen on the K-new. I personally don't think I would use it very often but to not have it all seems like a weird thing to do. But if they give it a fixed screen instead, that's fine with me. Just happy to see some new product news.

Weeell... (17+25)/2=21 mm, so you were, on average, right on the money

. Ltd, check. DC motor (KAF-4 it looks like), check. WR, also check!

phoebus · 05-15-2020, 04:16 AM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by Kunzite

But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it?

Not once was Ricoh mentioned, but Pentax was in every other sentence... I think RI just confirmed Pentax SLRs have a rosy future - and serious trouble for my bank account!!!

BryantCP · 05-20-2020, 03:45 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Serkevan

So Pentax cameras should never have any kind of movable screens?
Ricoh Imaging clearly disagreed when the K-1 actually innovated in that regard, though

I mean, if we want to remove features, why even have auto focus.

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While I don't mind a tilt-screen that much on a smallish camera like the KP, which I do have & occasionally do use the tilting feature, I don't want a tilting screen mechanism on a bigger/heavier camera. Mainly because of added bulk. Why can't those of us that prefer to have a fixed rear screen have a least one Pentax model that has a fixed screen ?

fsge · 05-20-2020, 03:59 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by BryantCP

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While I don't mind a tilt-screen that much on a smallish camera like the KP, which I do have & occasionally do use the tilting feature, I don't want a tilting screen mechanism on a bigger/heavier camera. Mainly because of added bulk. Why can't those of us that prefer to have a fixed rear screen have a least one Pentax model that has a fixed screen ?

disliking tilting shift of K1? I find it not that bulky and quite clever, better than the KP one actually

**pres589** · 05-20-2020, 05:24 PM

My preference is honestly whatever everyone else wants, the most, so that it appeals to the most people that might be sitting on the fence. The K-1's twist & tilt boogie would probably be my favorite solution. Couple that with a good cell phone clamping mount for the hotshoe and I think we're good?

Zygonyx · 05-20-2020, 05:53 PM

Not so sure.
Look at the fuji's X-T4 articulated screen : even selfie compliant.

05-20-2020, 03:45 PM - 1 Like	#102
BryantCP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN USA Posts: 134	Originally posted by Serkevan So Pentax cameras should never have any kind of movable screens? Ricoh Imaging clearly disagreed when the K-1 actually innovated in that regard, though I mean, if we want to remove features, why even have auto focus. -------------------------------- While I don't mind a tilt-screen that much on a smallish camera like the KP, which I do have & occasionally do use the tilting feature, I don't want a tilting screen mechanism on a bigger/heavier camera. Mainly because of added bulk. Why can't those of us that prefer to have a fixed rear screen have a least one Pentax model that has a fixed screen ? Last edited by BryantCP; 05-20-2020 at 03:57 PM. Reason: spelling

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05-13-2020, 05:47 AM - 2 Likes	#91
Kunzite Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 15,132	Originally posted by gatorguy Oh you can guarantee English translations of the reveal will be posted here the same day, and a 25 page discussion will follow. But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it?

05-13-2020, 05:50 AM - 1 Like	#92
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Kunzite But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it? And if they do, will people put black tape over it?

05-13-2020, 06:08 AM - 6 Likes	#93
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by gatorguy Oh you can guarantee English translations of the reveal will be posted here the same day, and a 25 page discussion will follow. I am betting on Google Translate absolutely butchering the nuance of Japanese expressions, followed by at least 10 pages of heated approval/disapproval about something that actually had nothing to do with the actual statements by Ricoh . Then we'll get a proper translation, collectively go "aaaah" and promptly return to heated approval/disapproval for 20 more pages, but at least this time it will be about something real .

05-13-2020, 09:36 AM - 2 Likes	#94
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by Larrymc How in the heck do you know that the K-New doesn't have some sort of articulated screen?? If the K-new does have an articulated screen no one is going to believe the amount of effort I'm going to put into calling these guys out. "I been rebuked and I been scorned" and they're going to pay big time.

05-13-2020, 09:48 AM - 2 Likes	#95
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	The "official" translation on the Ricoh website is here: CP+2020 \| RICOH IMAGING For those who are too lazy to click the link: Quote: Video broadcast introducing PENTAX products currently in development PENTAX will broadcast a video to introduce a selection of the new products currently in development, which were originally scheduled to be showcased at the RICOH IMAGING booth at the now-cancelled CP+ 2020. In this video, members of PENTAX’s Product Planning Department will describe a range of models now in development, including the next flagship model of the PENTAX APS-C-format digital SLR series and new interchangeable lenses. A great chance to witness the future of PENTAX! Date and time: 12:00 noon on Friday, May 15, 2020 (Japan time) Please note that, due to the coronavirus outbreak, PENTAX has decided to broadcast a pre-recorded web conference.

05-13-2020, 10:04 AM - 3 Likes	#96
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Ricoh Imaging: (...) new interchangeable lenses (...) Note the plural.

05-13-2020, 10:09 AM - 1 Like	#97
Not a Number Moderator Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Venice, CA Posts: 10,526	Also note Japan Time Originally posted by Mistral75 Note the plural. Quote: Date and time: 12:00 noon on Friday, May 15, 2020 (Japan time)

05-13-2020, 10:14 AM - 2 Likes	#98
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	Originally posted by Mistral75 Note the plural. I can't wait to find out which of my lens concepts they're building! D-FA 17 f3.5 Ltd with straight aperture blades? D-FA 25 f2.5 with light weight build?? Getting my popcorn ready. Also, I hate to suggest that Pentax need to keep up with the market vs. going their own way, but I can't imaging them not having some kind of movable screen on the K-new. I personally don't think I would use it very often but to not have it all seems like a weird thing to do. But if they give it a fixed screen instead, that's fine with me. Just happy to see some new product news.

05-13-2020, 10:26 AM	#99
Mistral75 Pentaxian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Paris, France Posts: 7,527	Originally posted by Not a Number Also note Japan Time Yep! Originally posted by Mistral75 There is no mention of GMT in the Japanese text, which simply states: 配信開始：2020年5月15日(金)　 12:00 'Available from the 15th of May, 2020 (Friday) at 12 o'clock.' This being a Japanese press release, the time is obviously 12:00 JST (Japan Standard Time), not GMT/UTC.

05-15-2020, 03:05 AM - 3 Likes	#100
Serkevan Site Supporter Join Date: May 2019 Photos: Albums Posts: 5,976	Originally posted by pres589 I can't wait to find out which of my lens concepts they're building! D-FA 17 f3.5 Ltd with straight aperture blades? D-FA 25 f2.5 with light weight build?? Getting my popcorn ready. Also, I hate to suggest that Pentax need to keep up with the market vs. going their own way, but I can't imaging them not having some kind of movable screen on the K-new. I personally don't think I would use it very often but to not have it all seems like a weird thing to do. But if they give it a fixed screen instead, that's fine with me. Just happy to see some new product news. Weeell... (17+25)/2=21 mm, so you were, on average, right on the money . Ltd, check. DC motor (KAF-4 it looks like), check. WR, also check!

05-15-2020, 04:16 AM - 3 Likes	#101
phoebus Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Buckinghamshire (UK) / Morbihan (FR) Photos: Gallery Posts: 470	Originally posted by Kunzite But the main question might remain unanswered: will they write Ricoh on it? Not once was Ricoh mentioned, but Pentax was in every other sentence... I think RI just confirmed Pentax SLRs have a rosy future - and serious trouble for my bank account!!!

05-20-2020, 03:59 PM - 1 Like	#103
fsge Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Genf Posts: 1,138	Originally posted by BryantCP -------------------------------- While I don't mind a tilt-screen that much on a smallish camera like the KP, which I do have & occasionally do use the tilting feature, I don't want a tilting screen mechanism on a bigger/heavier camera. Mainly because of added bulk. Why can't those of us that prefer to have a fixed rear screen have a least one Pentax model that has a fixed screen ? disliking tilting shift of K1? I find it not that bulky and quite clever, better than the KP one actually

05-20-2020, 05:24 PM	#104
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,529	My preference is honestly whatever everyone else wants, the most, so that it appeals to the most people that might be sitting on the fence. The K-1's twist & tilt boogie would probably be my favorite solution. Couple that with a good cell phone clamping mount for the hotshoe and I think we're good?

05-20-2020, 05:53 PM	#105
Zygonyx Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ile de France Posts: 4,033	Not so sure. Look at the fuji's X-T4 articulated screen : even selfie compliant.