[Cynog Ap Brychan]

I keep wishing I could figure out a reason to need a new camera, it's not going well.

You need a reason??!! Wow, this is a new and alien concept for me. I will have to go away and have a good think to see if I can wrap my head around that

[reh321]

You need a reason??!! Wow, this is a new and alien concept for me. I will have to go away and have a good think to see if I can wrap my head around that

I purchase a new camera only on that {rare} occasion when my old camera can't do something that I need that the new camera can,
for example, the graceful high ISO performance that the KP provides that my K-30 doesn't.

[Mistral75]

I'll answer. Launch price of the K-5 was $1,599.

I'll answer. Launch price of the K-5 was $1,599.

Nope, €1,249 body only in September 2010.

Il sera vendu nu pour 1 249 € (un prix un peu élevé qui devrait vite baisser si l’on en juge par ce qui est arrivé au K-7), et 1 299 € avec le 18-55 mm WR

Source: K-5, le reflex expert de Pentax - Le Monde de la Photo

[gatorguy]

Nope, €1,249 body only in September 2010.

Source: K-5, le reflex expert de Pentax - Le Monde de la Photo

They quote in Dollars, you quote in Euros, Potato, potahto, tomato, tomahto... let's call the whole thing off.

[Wheatfield]

I don't see a direct correlation between Knew costing $2000 USD driving cost of the next FF Pentax camera to $3500 or more. It perhaps becomes slightly more plausible but it seems like Ricoh generally understands how to price Pentax products. I don't think the Knew should cost $2000 out of the gate; $1500 USD seems about right to me, with prices settling to $1000 or so at retailers six or nine months later. But that's just a shot from the hip and shouldn't be taken as an educated guess.

Five or more years ago, maybe. Today, not likely.

[ogl]

yaotomicamera says that K-new will be higher than D7500, but lower than D500...

Side by Side Comparison Nikon D500 vs. Nikon D7500: Digital Photography Review
151 AF points vs 51, Higher LCD resolution, 10 fps vs 8 fps...better OVF, USB 3.0, better battery
K-new will have better OVF than D500 as I understand

[The Squirrel Mafia]

^ Sounds interesting. The D7500 has a pretty good AF system. We'll see what Ricoh has been up to once it's released.

[ogl]

^ Sounds interesting. The D7500 has a pretty good AF system. We'll see what Ricoh has been up to once it's released.

I hope K-new will be close to D500, better in some aspects, lower in another, but AF system is not worse than D7500 or even better...

[bxf]

I hope K-new will be close to D500, better in some aspects, lower in another, but AF system is not worse than D7500 or even better...

Looking at the dimensions of the D500 vs the K-1, the D500 is taller and wider, so one could argue that its APSC advantages are limited. I prefer APSC because it is more compact than FF, and if the K-new has to get much bigger in order to increase some performance aspects, I may lose interest.

[reh321]

Looking at the dimensions of the D500 vs the K-1, the D500 is taller and wider, so one could argue that its APSC advantages are limited. I prefer APSC because it is more compact than FF, and if the K-new has to get much bigger in order to increase some performance aspects, I may lose interest.

Physical size is one of the few things Pentax has definitely provided about the “K-3ii replacement” so far

[dbs]

I see what you saying, but in this economic climate and such a harsh down trending of this particular market, “get used to it” mentality for higher MRSP seems a bit risky to me. In times like this it’s hard for many folks to justify new purchase of any kind. In the course of the development I seriously doubt Ricoh anticipated COVID. It just feels like they should be cautious with pricing. I imagine they are trying to sensibly delay the release of this camera in hopes of economy being in better shape in the near future. Brighter wider viewfinder is great, but they better have improved AF, IQ, ergonomics etc to the point where higher pricing feels like a bargain, hence all this creating of buzz around its release, perhaps. I just feel bad for them because this COVID stuff is really a dagger.

HI Fontan

No one anticipated covid no one, that does'nt change the expected selling price, that was probably set during development.
The only hard part is the launch and covid collide.
You can not sell at a lose and expect to be in business.

Dave

[MikeMcE]

On board flash on my KP fires my strobe wirelessly...... I guess I should be using cords or an expensive remote trigger for that?

[gatorguy]

On board flash on my KP fires my strobe wirelessly...... I guess I should be using cords or an expensive remote trigger for that?

For many shooters that's all they need. Triggers aren't really expensive, Godox ones can be as little as $39 on sale, but the lights they control sure can be. It's like LBA, once you start down that road it seems you can never have too much light. One off-camera flash is all most of us probably need and many more simply want to remain natural light photogs with the bit of fill the on-camera flash can supply plenty enough for their occasional needs.

BTW a lot of the Godox lights can also be triggered by your pop-up flash, and many Godox lights themselves can be used as triggers and for sending remote settings to many other Godox lights.

I was curious if the KP's was bright enough to trigger something like the Pentax 360's or 540's, I already knew the K70 was, but thanks for letting us know the KP's are too. That's helpful advice.

[Serkevan]

Looking at the dimensions of the D500 vs the K-1, the D500 is taller and wider, so one could argue that its APSC advantages are limited. I prefer APSC because it is more compact than FF, and if the K-new has to get much bigger in order to increase some performance aspects, I may lose interest.

On the other hand, the D500 is squarely aimed at birders and people who more or less wanted a cheaper D5. Therefore, it's large to make it comfortable to hold with large lenses (since Nikon insisted for decades that APS-C was basically for amateurs, the lenses that a D500 user will likely have to mount are all full frame fast teles). Ironically, for all the "best in class" performance the Nikon has in terms of AF, frame rate and buffer (200 shots, are we crazy?), IQ is good but not mind-blowing and... it has no GPS nor flash, is gigantic, and it's the most* expensive APS-C camera ever released, AFAIK. Very specialized machine.

I'd say that the K-New has an advantage there - the new 16-50/2.8 and most of Pentax's APS-C stuff is on the compact side, so there is no need to oversize the camera.


*Obligatory "Leica doesn't count"

[Winder]

It's going to be a great camera. The only question mark is going to be the autofocus.