Pentax K-3 II successor on September 2020

**jatrax** · 09-28-2020, 09:06 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by Wasp

never have I ever given a camera's grip shape and size any thought. Much ado about nothing? Probably not, I have seen many posts about the matter so it matters to some people.

It's probably 70% of why I stay with Pentax. The cameras just fit my hands. I've tried other brands and they don't feel right. Image quality is a wash across brands, features are nearly a wash. That leaves ergonomics and menus / buttons which arguably are part of ergonomics.

reh321 · 09-28-2020, 09:16 AM

Originally posted by jatrax

It's probably 70% of why I stay with Pentax. The cameras just fit my hands. I've tried other brands and they don't feel right. Image quality is a wash across brands, features are nearly a wash. That leaves ergonomics and menus / buttons which arguably are part of ergonomics.

That is much of what little unhappiness I have with Pentax.
Cameras - like my K-30 - have hand grips which just get in my way today.
Everyone follows the "ergonomic" design pioneered by Canon's T90 ..... but I prefer the older designs.

**luftfluss** · 09-28-2020, 10:21 AM - **6 Likes**

I need me some grippage...

thibs · 09-28-2020, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by Serkevan

For me it's important, with the K-7 my only "but" to the otherwise excellent ergonomics is that my pinky was flying around a bit, the K-1 is the perfect size.

Please stop, I might have to buy K-1 😁.
Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5

normhead · 09-28-2020, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

I need me some grippage...

And a sherpa. When I look at lenses like that I think of an ATV with a bollted down tripod on it.

**jerryleejr** · 09-28-2020, 10:40 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Please stop, I might have to buy K-1 😁.
Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5

You know you want one....

JJ

**FozzFoster** · 09-28-2020, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5

Man, I just bought a K-70.
The K-70 has 'improved' grip over the K-S2 - they sort of expanded the grip out from the body - and for the most part it very much does improve the grip.

However, that damn pinky...
My pinky used to be able to jockey for position on the K-S2 grip, most of the time sliding off and hanging under the bottom of the camera, but still it had a chance...
But the K-70, with the expanded grip, splits the little room my pinky did get in half.
The K-70s expanded grip doesn't extend to the bottom of the camera, and there are a couple mm of 'non-expanded' grip near the bottom.
So my pinky is sorta splitting the difference between a non-expanded grip and the expanded grip.
It get's no chances to jockey for position anymore

Attached Images

normhead · 09-28-2020, 10:53 AM - **5 Likes**

You guys could always just amputate your pinkies.

thibs · 09-28-2020, 11:01 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by FozzFoster

Man, I just bought a K-70.
The K-70 has 'improved' grip over the K-S2 - they sort of expanded the grip out from the body - and for the most part it very much does improve the grip.

However, that damn pinky...
My pinky used to be able to jockey for position on the K-S2 grip, most of the time sliding off and hanging under the bottom of the camera, but still it had a chance...
But the K-70, with the expanded grip, splits the little room my pinky did get in half.
The K-70s expanded grip doesn't extend to the bottom of the camera, and there are a couple mm of 'non-expanded' grip near the bottom.
So my pinky is sorta splitting the difference between a non-expanded grip and the expanded grip.
It get's no chances to jockey for position anymore

Ouch, yes....Annoying

thibs · 09-28-2020, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by jerryleejr

You know you want one....

JJ

Of course I do. I don't need one though.
Daughter is gonna walk soon.
Still dunno what to do. Or sit on my K5...

GR will work for now.

**c.a.m** · 09-28-2020, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by normhead

You guys could always just amputate your pinkies.

Or duct-tape the pinky to its neighbour.

Seriously, I found that my K-3 II provided just sufficient extra coverage compared to my K-5 II, so that my pinky usually finds a position. I fit the battery grip occasionally when I use larger lenses, and the overall hand grip is better.

- Craig

**jerryleejr** · 09-28-2020, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by thibs

Of course I do. I don't need one though.
Daughter is gonna walk soon.
Still dunno what to do. Or sit on my K5...

GR will work for now.

I’ve used my K5iis for years and finally broke down and ordered the K1 mkII SILVER edition....looking for something my daughter can learn the Pentax system on....

JJ

reh321 · 09-28-2020, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by luftfluss

I need me some grippage...

Once you get rid of the essentially massless hood {I did notice you included one}, the longest lens I have for the KP is essentially the same physical length as the longest lens I had for the "Super Program", and the two-handed hold works for both - "balance" is not a thing.

**FozzFoster** · 09-28-2020, 11:16 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by thibs

Daughter is gonna walk soon.

My daughter is going to be 1.5 years old in a few days.
She moves so fast.
I'm terrible excited to get outta the SAFOX with 11 focus points...

---------- Post added 09-28-20 at 12:19 PM ----------

Originally posted by reh321

"balance" is not a thing.

with the sliding zoom on the super program, that's gunna be a lot more forward heavy than the super lightweight PLM

reh321 · 09-28-2020, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by FozzFoster

My daughter is going to be 1.5 years old in a few days.
She moves so fast.
I'm terrible excited to get outta the SAFOX with 11 focus points...

Yeah, I photographed mine with the manually focused "Super Program".
I coped by using f-stops like f/5.6, so DOF was my friend.
That was then - now they are dealing with things like recalcitrant landlords.

09-28-2020, 10:36 AM	#755
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	Originally posted by luftfluss I need me some grippage... And a sherpa. When I look at lenses like that I think of an ATV with a bollted down tripod on it. Last edited by normhead; 09-28-2020 at 10:54 AM.

09-28-2020, 11:13 AM	#763
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by luftfluss I need me some grippage... Once you get rid of the essentially massless hood {I did notice you included one}, the longest lens I have for the KP is essentially the same physical length as the longest lens I had for the "Super Program", and the two-handed hold works for both - "balance" is not a thing. Attached Images Last edited by reh321; 09-28-2020 at 11:34 AM.

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09-28-2020, 09:06 AM - 1 Like	#751
jatrax Site Supporter Join Date: May 2010 Location: Washington Cascades Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,991	Originally posted by Wasp never have I ever given a camera's grip shape and size any thought. Much ado about nothing? Probably not, I have seen many posts about the matter so it matters to some people. It's probably 70% of why I stay with Pentax. The cameras just fit my hands. I've tried other brands and they don't feel right. Image quality is a wash across brands, features are nearly a wash. That leaves ergonomics and menus / buttons which arguably are part of ergonomics.

09-28-2020, 09:16 AM	#752
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by jatrax It's probably 70% of why I stay with Pentax. The cameras just fit my hands. I've tried other brands and they don't feel right. Image quality is a wash across brands, features are nearly a wash. That leaves ergonomics and menus / buttons which arguably are part of ergonomics. That is much of what little unhappiness I have with Pentax. Cameras - like my K-30 - have hand grips which just get in my way today. Everyone follows the "ergonomic" design pioneered by Canon's T90 ..... but I prefer the older designs.

09-28-2020, 10:27 AM	#754
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by Serkevan For me it's important, with the K-7 my only "but" to the otherwise excellent ergonomics is that my pinky was flying around a bit, the K-1 is the perfect size. Please stop, I might have to buy K-1 😁. Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5

09-28-2020, 10:40 AM	#756
jerryleejr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: TN Posts: 774	Originally posted by thibs Please stop, I might have to buy K-1 😁. Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5 You know you want one.... JJ

09-28-2020, 10:51 AM	#757
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by thibs Indeed, Pinky's in the air with my K5 Man, I just bought a K-70. The K-70 has 'improved' grip over the K-S2 - they sort of expanded the grip out from the body - and for the most part it very much does improve the grip. However, that damn pinky... My pinky used to be able to jockey for position on the K-S2 grip, most of the time sliding off and hanging under the bottom of the camera, but still it had a chance... But the K-70, with the expanded grip, splits the little room my pinky did get in half. The K-70s expanded grip doesn't extend to the bottom of the camera, and there are a couple mm of 'non-expanded' grip near the bottom. So my pinky is sorta splitting the difference between a non-expanded grip and the expanded grip. It get's no chances to jockey for position anymore Attached Images

09-28-2020, 10:53 AM - 5 Likes	#758
normhead Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Algonquin Park Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 40,451	You guys could always just amputate your pinkies.

09-28-2020, 11:01 AM - 1 Like	#759
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by FozzFoster Man, I just bought a K-70. The K-70 has 'improved' grip over the K-S2 - they sort of expanded the grip out from the body - and for the most part it very much does improve the grip. However, that damn pinky... My pinky used to be able to jockey for position on the K-S2 grip, most of the time sliding off and hanging under the bottom of the camera, but still it had a chance... But the K-70, with the expanded grip, splits the little room my pinky did get in half. The K-70s expanded grip doesn't extend to the bottom of the camera, and there are a couple mm of 'non-expanded' grip near the bottom. So my pinky is sorta splitting the difference between a non-expanded grip and the expanded grip. It get's no chances to jockey for position anymore Ouch, yes....Annoying

09-28-2020, 11:02 AM	#760
thibs Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Belgium Photos: Albums Posts: 7,001	Originally posted by jerryleejr You know you want one.... JJ Of course I do. I don't need one though. Daughter is gonna walk soon. Still dunno what to do. Or sit on my K5... GR will work for now.

09-28-2020, 11:05 AM	#761
c.a.m Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Ottawa, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,189	Originally posted by normhead You guys could always just amputate your pinkies. Or duct-tape the pinky to its neighbour. Seriously, I found that my K-3 II provided just sufficient extra coverage compared to my K-5 II, so that my pinky usually finds a position. I fit the battery grip occasionally when I use larger lenses, and the overall hand grip is better. - Craig

09-28-2020, 11:06 AM	#762
jerryleejr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: TN Posts: 774	Originally posted by thibs Of course I do. I don't need one though. Daughter is gonna walk soon. Still dunno what to do. Or sit on my K5... GR will work for now. I’ve used my K5iis for years and finally broke down and ordered the K1 mkII SILVER edition....looking for something my daughter can learn the Pentax system on.... JJ

09-28-2020, 11:16 AM - 2 Likes	#764
FozzFoster Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Alberta Photos: Albums Posts: 6,806	Originally posted by thibs Daughter is gonna walk soon. My daughter is going to be 1.5 years old in a few days. She moves so fast. I'm terrible excited to get outta the SAFOX with 11 focus points... ---------- Post added 09-28-20 at 12:19 PM ---------- Originally posted by reh321 "balance" is not a thing. with the sliding zoom on the super program, that's gunna be a lot more forward heavy than the super lightweight PLM

09-28-2020, 11:37 AM	#765
reh321 Pentaxian Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Bend, IN, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 23,180	Originally posted by FozzFoster My daughter is going to be 1.5 years old in a few days. She moves so fast. I'm terrible excited to get outta the SAFOX with 11 focus points... Yeah, I photographed mine with the manually focused "Super Program". I coped by using f-stops like f/5.6, so DOF was my friend. That was then - now they are dealing with things like recalcitrant landlords.